NEWS —> McConnell sends memo to GOP senators outlining how an impeachment trial would work if the House goes thru. In essence, McConnell explains how an impeachment trial would consume the first days of Biden’s presidency. Memo exclusively obtained by WaPo https://t.co/q2f2Quum1Z pic.twitter.com/SAkVVsqPvb

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 9, 2021

No clue, it is the last bullet point in their release.

Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

Cloudflare is dumping tons of sites right now. No way tech companies all did this at the same time without some warning.

So, impeachment would not remove him from office even one day early. They do believe that they might still be to impeach and preclude him from running again. It would not likely get the number to convict.

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Yeah, I saw the bullet points, and I have heard other sites have mentioned the same warning, but I still don't get the day. It is a Sunday, so there won't be in legislatures in session.

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Maybe take over the building so Biden can’t be sworn in? Hard to understand the thought process of this brain washed cult.

So make GOPs object or make McConnell refuse to bring it to the floor.

McConnell can't refuse the floor vote. They will have to have a trial.

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It is pretty obvious to me that the FBI contacted all of these companies and asked for information around certain posters and sites. Then these companies began purging everyone they were asked about.

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I just watched American Horror Story season 3 which was called The Cult.

Holy shit. Watch it.

I think it was kidnap/kill Pence and/or wteal the ballots. They were trying to stop the Constitutional process and mistakenly believed removing the VP and/or the ballots would do the trick.

Yeah, if you watch the videos you can hear them screaming what they want to do. I mean they set up a gallow across the street. Not to mention the month or so of posts on Trump sites and social media.

Would impeachment undo his pardons?

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McConnell still an ass.

Basically, saying that he's powerless to actually make the Senate hold a trial until Biden is sworn in.

Which pretty much takes impeachment off the table, even as a threat.

McConnell is willing to give up that leverage over Trump to pressure him to resign because, it seems, McConnell does not want him to resign.

Even now, McConnell is protecting Trump.

It was so close to being so much worse.

I wonder if conviction would remove pension benefits and secret service protection.

The other way I am seeing some people interpret this is McConnell telling Trump "Look, if they impeach you, Schumer will be in charge of the trial in the Senate, not me. So it will be pretty shitshow for you. So just resign."

I guess that's a reading, too.

Either way, McConnell Pontius Pilates his way out of running the trial and probably doesn't really care much one way or the other.

I think I need to get offline for the night. Trump's living rent-free in my head right now, and considering that he's barred from living in Mar-A-Lago, I don't want him getting any ideas.

What happened to POTUS?

— Rudy W. Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) January 9, 2021

That made me snort. It's hard to take much delight in the collapse of ones own country, but man today has been some delicious vindication.

I was more referring to the 17th

YouTube has removed Steve Bannons podcast, and Twitter banned Rush Limbaugh. Massive deplatforming of the far right.

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Rush Limbaugh now suspended.

Watching Trump jump from account to account while Twitter chases him down and shuts them all down is hilarious. And pathetic.

The tweet about Trump being unable to access Barron's twitter account because Melania made the PW Barron's middle name and birthdate was ice cold brutality.

Welcome to the free market bitches. Bootstraps yourself a platform.

I don't care if you agree with all these people or not, the fact that there's a systematic and very likely pre-planned silencing of a segment of people going on right now is terrifying.

Let me take that back. Rush deactivated his account. It doesn't show that it was suspended.

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Coffee, they are trying to protect themselves from legal action. They can be found legally libel if they are knowing allowing criminal action to take place. Now that they are warned, they have to act.

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What if Tic Tok is the only platform that allowed Trump on?

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No it's not. They aren't being silenced. They're free to go to other platforms. These are people that incited a violent and treasonous overthrow of the U.S. government. Twitter is right to suspend him and should have done so long ago.

Frankly, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I'd be just as happy if all these actions led to the collapse/re-evaluation of these social media companies as well, so it all tastes like gravy to me today.


Further, we need to be ripping band-aids off and try fundamentally new directions culturally, not carefully trying to get back to where we were next week, and that kind of drastic action will never be perfect, but we shouldn't let that be the enemy of acting right as best we can, as cliche as that sounds.

Yeah Rush deactivated. I'm guessing Hannity too.

Hannity is still up. Just checked.

Whst if Trump made an onlyfan?
Maybe a Pornhub acoount?

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I think Rush and Hannity are deactivating their accounts in solidarity for daddy.

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/stat...602268672?s=19

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How can the President communicate without a Twitter account? Wish we had an era where they didn't use Twitter for guidance.

I jumped the gun on Hannity. Someone said this on Twitter and I posted before checking. :(

Heck, Rudy is still up. They would ban him before Hannity.

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I've seen other buzz for the 19th. Nothing I'd consider credible, though. I'm not a very good Nazi so I don't know where to look (ok, I have some guesses but I don't care to go there).

SI

Not having a social media platform is not the same as "being silenced". Let's not go crazy and lose all perspective here.

There is no fundamental right to Twitter, Facebook, or fucking Parler

That it's happening so quickly and so coordinated is chilling and does not bode well for the future. Nor does the Tweet about Biden trying to do a new Domestic Terrorism bill (if it's credible). We don't need Patriot Act II - we need to walk back huge swaths of Patriot Act I.

On the other hand, a lot of these are people who should have been shut down years ago. They're only just now being deplatformed because the people killed indirectly by their actions became a high enough profile event. And the cynic in me says that it's because they finally got too toxic for the social media brand. Dorsey gets very little credit from me for throwing Trump off Twitter today. Twitter and Trump were great for each other just as people like Joe Scarborough and CNN made a killing on sensationalizing and/or cozying up to Trump news. So Dorsey made his money with every news station blasting about what Trump tweeted daily but now he's too toxic to keep there so he's being discarded just like so many people he used. Where was he years ago when Trump should have been banned for any number of instances?

TL;DR It was something that should have been done a long time ago but it also gives me a very uneasy feeling.

SI

Again, I would put money on these accounts being shut down after the FBI came to the platforms asking about them.

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I totally agree that it's not a free speech issue but I think I have an even bigger issue with it than SI. The bottom line is that more and more people get their news from social media. It doesn't matter if that's a good thing, it's reality and it's not likely to change. Those platforms are there to make money, so they're going to make whatever decisions help them do that.

The market is determining more than ever what truth is and what information people will, practically speaking, have the most access to. I don't have an answer to it aside from the usual need for more civic virtue from the electorate to dig through the crap, but I have little doubt the future in this area will be far worse than what we have now. And I guarantee there will be times where the same people cheering the shutdown of certain blowhard voices at the moment will be furious when 'their' point of view gets the hammer in times when different popular winds are blowing. Political correctness on steroids is here, and it's not going away.

If only Trump would have put .000001% as much energy into containing and combating COVID as he is trying to rage tweet.

Looks like they may have found the "Zip Tie Guy" too and referred the name to the FBI

Uh oh... pic.twitter.com/A3rrATThiI

— Eric Champnella (@champnella) January 9, 2021

Trump isn't silenced. He could get airtime on FOX, OANN, Newsmax, and probably others at any time he wants. He could give an official statement or press conference. He could sit down for an interview with any number of print or web outlets.

The problem is that each one of those outlets would be able to respond. The beauty of Twitter is that the President can speak and no one has to hear anything that contradicts or challenges him. He doesn't want a place to speak, he wants a place to speak without repercussions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1253546

And they're planning more violent coup attempts on these sites. This isn't about political correctness, it's about stopping the violent overthrow of the government. Twitter is right to act.

Sterlingice, can you link an actual domestic terrorism bill that is being proposed by Biden? I see a bunch of fear mongering online, but I don't see anything that has actually been suggested or written by an actual official.

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To be fair, it has been terrifying since this is not the first time we have done this. Check the impact that SESTA/FOSTA had on silencing a certain segment of people. This is just an extension of that.

Is now the time to complain about the mods around here?

The video of the cops getting crushed by the Rioters is chilling. That was probably the place the woman was stomped to death.

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Not to mention how long have people been pointing out that Trump and a lot of his fans were violating Twitter, Facebook, etc Terms of Service? The line in the sand, where they actually enforced their own rules was the attempted coup.

I wouldn't really complain if all politicians were required to remove their personal Twitter/social media accounts. As others have noted, these people have entire apparatuses explicitly dedicated to addressing the press and the public in the general, and their direct interaction with any kind of social media shouldn't even be necessary & serves to bypass/undermine the value of a free press to some degree.

The guy with the gun, knife and zip ties was identified by Twitter sleuths. Disturbing social media presence as you can imagine.

I thought someone had linked to it on here earlier today but I'm not finding anything now. I've tried Googling real quick and getting nothing either so maybe I'm just hallucinating. It's been a long week and I'm tired so I'm going with the "maybe I dreamed it up"

SI

Going down the Twitter rabbit hole of how he was identified is fascinating.

Which thread? I'm curious. Or was it the one I posted above and didn't take the right off ramp?

And are you talking about guy #1 or guy #2? Guy #2 (the older guy) was identified pretty quickly.

SI

Guy #1

Your thread plus this one tells most of the story.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MalcolmNa...20359303409669

All of the fears of silencing people leads to violence need to come with an explanation of why not silencing people ended with insurrection.

Yeah, just followed it again - a lot like the other thread that got guy #2

His Facebook has been deleted in the last hour but a lot of people kept the receipts and have reported him to the FBI.

It's particularly cute that he was caught because all summer he was an asshole to other people and they remembered him

We were able to match up Eric Mulchen’s videos because he spent his summer harassing Black and Brown people at Ida B. Wells Plaza in Nashville with his friends Curtis and Aaron. He is every bit as hateful as one would imagine.
— Opossum Press (@OpossumPress) January 9, 2021

(note: I'm pretty sure the Tweet above typo'd his name or he was using a slightly different name on his since deleted Facebook account)

SI

Yeah that was disturbing even for me having seen plenty of death and destruction in my military service frankly. I think it was that these people doing this were our neighbors, maybe a few were that crushed cops fellow officers or off duty army soldiers etc. So, this whole situation does need to be taken more serious than it is by leaders on all sides. We have allowed this country to grow into a place with millions of armed citizens and that are armed with military grade weapons. Other than the military with heavy duty weapons ( gunships, Stryker vehicles, light anti personnel vehicles etc) even the our militarized police are not a match for them if we have 15000 of these wackos show to the capital on the 17th for part two or inauguration. I would just call this Civil War 2 and get to doing the terrible thing of cleaning this trash up across the country. It won’t happen but at what cost I fear whether next week or twenty years from now.

Conveniently they changed their stance at the precise moment when Democrats took control of Congress and the Presidency.

New Yorker found another guy.

An Air Force Combat Veteran Breached the Senate and Descended on Nancy Pelosi’s Office Suite | The New Yorker

Yeah, that story was put together with a lot of help from the thread I posted above:

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status...11413101998080

SI

It really was fascinating reading through that thread with how effectively it was all put together.

I spent more than an hour reading those threads tonight. It was so interesting.

SI

That thread is wild. Some real clever investigating.

I enjoy right-wingers calling what Twitter did communism when it is a result of capitalism.

Not even mentioning the ironic fact that if you dare post any of that "lefty crap" on Parler you get blocked/booted with a swiftness.

Twitter permanently suspends @TeamTrump after string of Trump tweets

It's now a game of Whack-A-Troll

Rush Limbaugh deactivates his Twitter account after President Trump permanently banned

saves them the trouble

I'm really frightened by the zipties. He no doubt wants to use them to tie people up

FWIW the details emerging around zip-tie man #1 and #2 make it seems like both legitimately could have gotten those zip ties from abandoned capitol police equipment. Who knows what they would have done with them had the situation been any different in any number of ways, but it does appear like there's a chance they didn't arrive intending to take hostages with those exact handties, at least, for whatever tiny, tiny speck of solace that is worth?

Video clearly shows Rep. Mike Nearman helping right-wing demonstrators breach Oregon Capitol - oregonlive.com

That is such white privilege right there.
Yet again. DUde hits an officer and doesn't even geet slammed to the ground in handcuffs, just pushed out the door.

Lauren Boebert on a rally: "... Elections we are gonna be loosing, unless we win the hearts and minds of our childre. This is the battle. Hitler was right about one thing: Whoever has the Youth has the future"

For a representative of a demonstrably right wing party with a large element of fascistic tendencies and an unhealthy obsession with learning the "right history" they sure like to go on a lot of diatribes of indoctrinated youth and how they need to prevent that (often by essentially proposing to indoctrinate them, but with the 'right' stuff). But their use of quotable figures couldn't be more ironic if they tried. Like, guys: Do make an effort, please ?
Here's one: "Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world." - Vladimir Lenin.

@whomario, you are the perfect person to watch this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJy-aunn...ouiy8B2NVCqOoU

Things I didn't realize existed

Not without an instagram account aparently ;)

yeah instagram is a pain in the ass it seems

Watch here then:

SuperMario on Vimeo

Trump supporters confront and scream at Sen. Lindsey Graham

Yikes! Absolutely didn't see this coming. first Pence and now Graham. The cultists really want their blood :(

I'd say they deserve it but no they don't deserve to be threatened like this.
We really really really need to stop just letting this go and just arrest people like this for the criminals they are.

They're transitioning...

From figthing to save an election to fighting to save our country

Now those pushing back and shutting down their means to coordinate another attempt to overthrow the government are just one more reason we're turning that fast into Venezuela (not Russia of course).

They need to really protect our stuff.

Remember when the FBI said White Nationialist Malitias were our greatest threat and congress yawned?

This wasn’t a big deal when Twitter & Facebook started banning all of those so called isis accounts.

This is pretty cool. Kudos to the guy.

He was actually accused as being part of the group but the woman later backed him up and said he was helping.

Black woman attacked by Trump supporters at LA Stop the Steal rally | Daily Mail Online

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...tter-protests/

They deserve everything they get and then some. They created this monster and now that it is turning on them too fucking bad.

This is how the article describes the platform. Kind of underselling it a bit.

And the worst part about it is they still won't change. They will keep saying and doing the same things.

Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Twitch ban Donald Trump

Snapchat and Twitch joined the Trump ban. Sad he won't be able to post pictures of himself as a unicorn nor show his livestream of Call of Duty

Usually this would be a flippant answer but I'm 100% serious this time.

If you quoted Lenin, you'd be quoting a commie or a socialist. So to her and her ilk, Hitler is more acceptable. To wit: She'd rather quote modern history's greatest monster because he's led bad in their eyes than this fake socialist brush they're trying to paint everyone else with.

SI

It's just a recalibration. They went "whoops, just a little too far". So they're going to take one or two steps back, distance themselves from the specific event that was "too far", wait for everyone to forget how bad this was, and then keep spouting the same rhetoric.

SI

http://twitter.com/alexblagg/status/1347782726858928129

Couldn’t be happier for them

https://twitter.com/sadienovello/sta...74943430283264

SI

First ten minutes of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh6oGqmdd5c

It's Tucker Carlson parsing the events in Washington with the thesis that the elites in the Republican party despise the "proles" (i.e., the working class folks).

For a party that has used combating Marxism as their battle cry for the last forever, it's fascinating to me that Carlson is turning the events at the Capitol and the aftermath into a Marxist narrative and fanning the flames of a class war.

I'm just sort of...flabbergasted that this is the play.

Reminder that nurses who stopped to help injured people during the inauguration protests were charged with crimes that could put them away for 60 years.

NEW: DOJ statement on arrest of man who allegedly broke into Speaker Pelosi's office: "If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of one year in prison." https://t.co/U17qPMKGFG pic.twitter.com/WmmGnAfI4d

— ABC News (@ABC) January 8, 2021

I can't imagine more charges aren't coming

There’s so many possible plot twists coming up I just can’t believe it.

Until someone takes over at d Doj dod fbi etc they’ve got about 15 days of unfettered anger to let out

Then the crackdown can begin on the revolutionaries that are crying that they’re the Patriots saving the country

Pretty unbelievable that one side literally views their side as the saviors while the order side feels the exact same way. Insane times.


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