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bronconick 05-23-2023 05:08 PM

Musk is South African, so no.

CrimsonFox 05-23-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3402248)
Musk is South African, so no.


lol what? he is?

RainMaker 05-23-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3402213)
DeSantis is apparently going to launch his campaign in conjunction with Elon musk. DeSantis is a very smart guy; I wonder if he is not so much running for president as laying the groundwork to become the next Tucker Carlson. He’ll make a lot more money and have a lot less stress.


He has zero personality. Listen to the guy talk to anyone who isn't lobbing softball questions his way.

Say what you want about Tucker, but he's charismatic and knows how to talk to people.

CrimsonFox 05-23-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3402251)
He has zero personality. Listen to the guy talk to anyone who isn't lobbing softball questions his way.

Say what you want about Tucker, but he's charismatic and knows how to talk to people.


and yet he is STILL more charismatic than trump who has negative charisma

flere-imsaho 05-23-2023 08:16 PM

Negative charisma to those who don't like him, absolutely positive charisma to those who do. No one on the fence.

RainMaker 05-23-2023 08:36 PM

Yeah, I know people don't like Trump but it's hard to say he doesn't have charisma. Especially when graded against other politicians.

Ksyrup 05-23-2023 08:42 PM

It's hard to take the politics and crimes out of it now, but I couldn't stand him years ago. But then, he was just an entitled smarmy POS that didn't matter to me. It still amazes me that anyone can listen to him and think he has some charm or intelligence.

Thomkal 05-23-2023 08:53 PM

Trump and/or his lawyers write a letter to Merrick Garland about how unfairly the Special Counsel is treating him and wants to meet with him to discuss it:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...78305171652608


(and probably try to blackmail/bribe him into dropping the case)

Lathum 05-23-2023 09:10 PM

They actually said in the memo he is being treated unfairly. It is unreal.

CrimsonFox 05-23-2023 09:16 PM

But...But....If I can't say negative thin gs about everyone, then I can't campaign...

Ksyrup 05-23-2023 09:32 PM

It's election interference to prosecute criminals who happen to be running for office. Who knew?

Thomkal 05-23-2023 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3402283)
It's election interference to prosecute criminals who happen to be running for office. Who knew?



Thank God for our democracy! :D I love that he's mad at the judge for scheduling the trial to begin during campaign season and he has to be there for it

cuervo72 05-23-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3402274)
It's hard to take the politics and crimes out of it now, but I couldn't stand him years ago. But then, he was just an entitled smarmy POS that didn't matter to me. It still amazes me that anyone can listen to him and think he has some charm or intelligence.


I've said it before, but I'm still annoyed at his hastening the downfall of the USFL.

(I never understood the appeal of The Apprentice, either.)

Thomkal 05-23-2023 10:11 PM

Garland has replied to the letter, turning down the offer to meet because the Special Counsel is running the investigation

CrimsonFox 05-23-2023 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3402286)
I've said it before, but I'm still annoyed at his hastening the downfall of the USFL.

(I never understood the appeal of The Apprentice, either.)


that show was sooooo bad. I was a huge reality show junkie. Especially anything with celebrities. And the intro/theme song was cool. But the show was just sooo bad. Everything he said was babbling. And posturing. ANd peacocking. He would ramble for 5 minutes then fire someone that he wasn't even talking about. Never made any sense.

GrantDawg 05-24-2023 03:52 AM

He was by far the worst part or the show. His decisions were completely arbitrary and often contradictory. He would fire someone for something one week and then reward someone for doing the same thing the next. He would pull his advisors off the show if they started getting too much press attention until he finally just got rid of them all together to use his children. He constantly showed how petty and narcissistic he is.

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CrimsonFox 05-24-2023 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3402295)
He was by far the worst part or the show. His decisions were completely arbitrary and often contradictory. He would fire someone for something one week and then reward someone for doing the same thing the next. He would pull his advisors off the show if they started getting too much press attention until he finally just got rid of them all together to use his children. He constantly showed how petty and narcissistic he is.

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And Dennis Rodman drank too much

Thomkal 05-24-2023 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3402289)
that show was sooooo bad. I was a huge reality show junkie. Especially anything with celebrities. And the intro/theme song was cool. But the show was just sooo bad. Everything he said was babbling. And posturing. ANd peacocking. He would ramble for 5 minutes then fire someone that he wasn't even talking about. Never made any sense.



I was a junkie too. Watched I don't know how many seasons of The Apprentice when it was just regular off the street people playing. I think because it was a new type of "game show" The novelty of Survivor, Amazing Race, Big Brother, etc drew me in, but I eventually stop watching all of them. I will most definitely watch Apprentice: Federal Prison though where all the Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, far-righters behind his administration, etc, compete to stay alive and become Trump's #1 enforcer. :D

albionmoonlight 05-24-2023 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3402276)
Trump and/or his lawyers write a letter to Merrick Garland about how unfairly the Special Counsel is treating him and wants to meet with him to discuss it:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...78305171652608


(and probably try to blackmail/bribe him into dropping the case)


They refer to Biden as "President Biden." Interesting that they are making that concession.

CrimsonFox 05-24-2023 07:17 AM

that's a threat if I've ever seen one

and you know the lawyer was taking dictation

SirFozzie 05-24-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3402247)
wait is Musk actually going to be Desantis' running mate? I keep seeing articles that are probably just written improperly but it made me think how funny that would be


Doesn't Musk fail the natural born citizen, thus not eligible.

NobodyHere 05-24-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3402320)
Doesn't Musk fail the natural born citizen, thus not eligible.


Well his maternal grandfather was apparently an American citizen, so shouldn't Musk's mother be a US citizen? And therefore Musk is a natural born citizen due to his mother?

Atocep 05-24-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3402303)
They refer to Biden as "President Biden." Interesting that they are making that concession.



This is probably the strongest indication we've seen that at least the Trump side feels an indictment is coming. They decided to try a hail mary to head it off.

CrimsonFox 05-24-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3402320)
Doesn't Musk fail the natural born citizen, thus not eligible.


think about it tho. it would be great entertainment. Musk goes in as desantis running mate then tries to get more press than desantis then starts saying things like abortion is good. THen ends up quitting that game and running alone as an independent

CrimsonFox 05-24-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3402324)
Well his maternal grandfather was apparently an American citizen, so shouldn't Musk's mother be a US citizen? And therefore Musk is a natural born citizen due to his mother?



GrantDawg 05-24-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3402324)
Well his maternal grandfather was apparently an American citizen, so shouldn't Musk's mother be a US citizen? And therefore Musk is a natural born citizen due to his mother?

Nope. He is a citizen of Canada and South Africa, though. He is a naturalized citizen of the US.

NobodyHere 05-24-2023 02:42 PM

But aren't the children of US citizens automatically natural born citizens?

Atocep 05-24-2023 02:52 PM

Of all the corrupt pieces of shit out there, Ken Paxton may be the most corrupt.

The fact that his own party had to investigate him and has now found he likely committed multiple misdemeanors and felonies is crazy.

This comes as he tries to use state funds to pay a $3 million settlement as a result of his corruption.

https://apnews.com/article/texas-ken...%20retaliation.

Ksyrup 05-24-2023 03:01 PM

But he got my parents $28 from TurboTax!

NobodyHere 05-24-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3402352)
But he got my parents $28 from TurboTax!


I'm still waiting on my check

Ksyrup 05-24-2023 03:13 PM

I'm sure this will help win over suburban moms.


GrantDawg 05-24-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3402346)
But aren't the children of US citizens automatically natural born citizens?

Nope. She never became a citizen. It is not automatic, it only transfers from a parent that meet certain requirements. She never became a US citizen. She did allow him to become a Canadian citizen.

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Elon got Canadian citizenship through his mother. Then he came to the US as a student from Canada. After completing a bachelor’s degree and deferring the Ph.D. for six months, Elon started an internet company — Zip2. When investors in Zip2 realized Elon does not have a green card, they helped Elon to get an EB-5 investor green card in 1997. In 2002, Elon became a US citizen through the naturalization process.

GrantDawg 05-24-2023 07:25 PM

Oh, boy...
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/s...-1234741082%2F

albionmoonlight 05-24-2023 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3402354)
I'm sure this will help win over suburban moms.



I’ve seen a lot of pro LGBTQA+ people mad at Target for caving to the anti-gay pressure. But the anti-gay crowd still seems to be boycotting Target. Wonder if Target managed to screw this up both ways.

Lathum 05-24-2023 07:57 PM

I went to Target today but didn't buy anything. Does that make me bi curious?

RainMaker 05-24-2023 08:08 PM

I will be shocked if Desantis makes it to Super Tuesday.



Lathum 05-24-2023 08:09 PM

yeah, Trumps team is brilliant with this sort of stuff. I wonder if this makes Younkin jump in.

Ksyrup 05-24-2023 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3402398)
I’ve seen a lot of pro LGBTQA+ people mad at Target for caving to the anti-gay pressure. But the anti-gay crowd still seems to be boycotting Target. Wonder if Target managed to screw this up both ways.


I think they tried to have it both ways by announcing the reason they pulled the stuff was due to threats against their employees/stores, intimating they were still on the side of LGBTQA+ and that it was the anti-gay crowd that was threatening violence. But at the end of the day, it worked, right?

Vegas Vic 05-25-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3402403)
I will be shocked if Desantis makes it to Super Tuesday.



We'll see. As I recall, Hillary Clinton had a similar "insurmountable" lead in the polls against Barack Obama in May 2007.

NobodyHere 05-25-2023 12:13 PM

I wonder how Trump's upcoming criminal trial will shakes things up. Right now it's tentatively scheduled for Mar 24, 2024, which is a couple weeks after Super Tuesday.

Imagine if Trump wraps up the nomination by then and is convicted. DeSantis has to put that image into voter's heads if he wants to win. I'd like to think even most Republicans wouldn't want a convicted felon on top of the ticket going into the general election. I know you'll have your core Trumpers galvanized by how "unfair" the process was. But surely there are enough Republicans know that that won't play well to your typical fence-sitting voter.

thesloppy 05-25-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic (Post 3402441)
We'll see. As I recall, Hillary Clinton had a similar "insurmountable" lead in the polls against Barack Obama in May 2007.


The catch there is that Hilalry has always been consideered 'unlikable' by voters, and was going up against a candidate with much more obvious charisma. in DeSatnsis' case it's the guy who is already trailing by 30+ points that nobody likes. Donald Trump's legal status will be the real determining factor.

Thomkal 05-25-2023 12:27 PM

Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes gets 18 years. Less than I would have liked but the defense pleading for "time served" was just beyond ridiculous. So now Republicans please let us know when you have the whistleblowers, evidence and phone calls that shows Antifa/Black Lives Matter/Pelosi/Biden etc were behind it all. We're waiting..

RainMaker 05-25-2023 01:41 PM

Yeah, the defense team even remarked at how lenient they thought the sentence was. 18 years is a long time but well under the recommended amount.

Guessing it doesn't matter as the next Republican President will surely pardon him.

JPhillips 05-25-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic (Post 3402441)
We'll see. As I recall, Hillary Clinton had a similar "insurmountable" lead in the polls against Barack Obama in May 2007.


Gallup had Clinton +9 in June 2007. CNN just had Trump up +27.

Swaggs 05-25-2023 04:14 PM

Desantis gives me 2016 Scott Walker vibes.

BYU 14 05-26-2023 08:52 AM

These Clowns are just writing each others campaign ads now :D


flere-imsaho 05-26-2023 09:34 AM

Maybe cut back on the drugs a bit, junior.

albionmoonlight 05-26-2023 09:37 AM

Morbid thought--what would the Vegas odds be on Whether Don Sr. or Don Jr. dies first?

flere-imsaho 05-26-2023 02:54 PM

Senior is 76, but his Dad lived to 93. Junior's ~46. Can he last another 20 years with the amount of drugs he's doing?

Honestly, it's a tougher call than I would have thought.

Lathum 05-26-2023 04:50 PM

I hope its a push


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