Tiffany Trumpcmight be the dumbest Trump. That takes talent.

It would be if this was Putin's plan all along.

I don't agree with it and it shouldn't have even got to the point that it did, but, as we have seen far too many times in this country, as long as you are white, breaking the law isn't necessarily illegal.

This seems very poorly planned. Why wouldn't the rioters quickly declare it an autonomous zone? From what I understand, when you do that, you get to occupy a place for almost a month without any political or police intervention. These buffoons only made it a few hours. Something like the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ 2.0.

Well, judging by some of the flags they were carrying around, you could say they were a confederacy of dunces.

Doordash doesn't deliver to the Capitol building

Curfew not being enforced with the vigor they were over the Summer.

Rand Paul is saying there will be no more Senate objections. We will see.

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Btw, Trump people on Twitter already claiming it was actually Antifa that stormed the capital.

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Sen. Carper -


This won't go away and if there's no penalty it will encourage the next coup.

1000%

Dems never miss an opportunity to show they are gutless cowards.

Reports are that Hawley refuses to drop his objection to PA vote. Though he's being heavily lobbied to do so.

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I mean even Chuck Todd is saying something has to happen.

Sarah Palin on Fox also blaming Antifa for attacking the Capital.

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Fuck that! Someone gave her life today so those brave senators to be able to make those objections. Have the stones to continue what you started cowards!

Guy had a gun and zip ties.

https://twitter.com/Rebexem/status/1...101213696?s=19

Shouldn't law enforcement be giving briefings? Had a terrorist attack on the Capital today. Where is Homeland Security?

Lady killed during the coup attempt was career military.

KUSI News confirms identity of woman shot and killed inside US Capitol -

They were busy wishing the terrorists a nice day on their way out.

So first the cops let them in, and then, at the end, they just got to leave. pic.twitter.com/QifyIV3ZZY

— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) January 6, 2021

You’d think she would know rioting in the Capitol would not end well. Darwin wins again.

Probably a sideshow trivia fact that will only register with like 2 people here, but it appears Jon Shaffer, lead guitarist and main member of metal band Iced Earth, was one of the people who stormed the Capitol today.

I wish congress would get past the grandstanding and make the electoral votes official.

Plenty of time for grandstanding later.

Sure sounds to me like Christie is implying the Cabinet should be considering the 25th.

Man, listening to Loeffler talk is like what I'd imagine listening to a cold, wet, old dirty mop talk.

She is one of the worst public speakers I've ever seen in politics. The few commercials where she spoke were painful to watch.

At least she dropped her objection. That little rat Hawley is still talking about Pennsylvania.

https://twitter.com/KirkAdams/status...889782785?s=19

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This one has the video of Margaret Brennan talking about it.

https://twitter.com/NorahODonnell/st...98943180333057

Jonathan Karl brought it up on ABC, too.

If you watched the ITV report with the cameraman sort of imbedded with the Rioters as they broke in to the building, there was a futile attempt by some officers to stop them. They were greatly outnumbered, and gave up after a few baton swings.

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Very true. Weird how a member of the party of states rights is trying to interfere with a state that is not his.

Nobodyhere, they legal have to argue for two hours because of the objection that had already happened. There is no way you shorten it.

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One takeaway is that the Capital Police should probably be dissolved. Can have the Secret Service take it over going forward.

It's also a good argument for why DC deserves statehood. All this happened in the backyard of people who have no representation in government. They are at the mercy of the federal government. A federal government that looked the other way today.

I didn't realize that.

There have been a few good speeches but I've never been much for politicians hot air.

Yeah. If those people really wanted to kill some liberals today they could have

Did I imagine that Lindsey Graham, yes the same Lindsey Graham that made that speech, tried to get the GA Sec of State to disqualify votes to help Trump??

Keep on dreaming the wet dream about the 25th. There may be talk but never happen. And Pence won't do it.

The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 116th Congress was 57.6 years; of Senators, 62.9 years.

As I get ready to go to sleep, how in the hell are these old people staying up to certify this damn vote?!

Yes, he committed a crime but as we have seen today, some are above the law.

Your body fills with adrenaline when you have to hide under your desk and then flee a violent threat.

How can this be? The media (and some posters on this forum) have led me to believe that police only shoot and kill Black people.

Literally no one on this forum as ever said that. The narrative has always been against bad cops, how somehow manage to kill unarmed Black men at a much higher rate than unarmed (insert race here)

And I am not from the defund the police crowd, which is just plain stupid. I believe Police need more training better screening and more opportunity to better engage the communities they serve, so they can better do their jobs.

Uh maybe not literally but there has been several that went that direction.

Vast majority of cops are bad. Lot's of pithy statements about "gee, those white folks didn't get shot, we know why wink, wink" etc.

Obviously we take that with a grain of salt. Just like we take CB's statement with a grain of salt.

1 person got shot today during an overthrow of our capitol building while our VP and senate were inside.

What do you think would have happened if they were black or muslim?

A couple of people that I at one point considered good friends, the husband having coached my son in football and baseball for several seasons, and the wife having served as team mom those seasons, posted pictures this afternoon from the top steps of the Capitol.

Our friendship became strained after Trump was elected in 2016, as they were very vocal Trump supporters, and I was a very anti-Trump supporter. We were able to remain friendly, but it became even more strained in 2018 when I became a very vocal Beto O'Rourke supporter, while they supported Ted Cruz.

Things were starting to thaw up until the start of the pandemic. Then in May or June, I think, I went to the farmer's market where they sell their BBQ to pick up some ribs and brisket. It's an outdoor farmer's market, but I still wore my mask when I went up to get the food and chat with them. The husband made a comment about my mask, and I said that I would rather be overcautious than not cautious enough, and he responded that he chooses not live his life in fear. That kind of ended the friendly banter we had going on.

That was the last time I've seen them in person. We've had a few minor pleasant exchanges on FB over the past couple of months, and I was hoping that our chilled friendship could thaw again. But supporting Trump is one thing...storming the Capitol is an entirely different thing.

It's sad, but I'm done with them now. I don't know how I could ever see them in a different light than that of seditious traitors who participated in a coup attempt.

No one says this and I'm guessing you know how dumb that sounds.

Also pretty sure the person who shot her was Secret Service. While Capital Police were compliant in the attack, the Secret Service was not going to let someone breach the chamber where the VP is in.


Seems like they know how to not beat up and kill people as long as they are white and have a MAGA hat on. Today showed that this isn't a training issue, it's a decision on when to use force and when to take selfies with terrorists.

@BYU14

The initial trollish post was that people have claimed the police only shoot black people. Literally no one has claimed that. If you don't know the difference between "only" and "more likely to" then you're too stupid to be taken seriously.

Just for the sake of reference, this is what the capitol looked like when a BLM protest was scheduled:

Read again? All 3 paragraphs are important but probably the last one is most relevant.

Comms Directors for Senator Moran. Not sure if that's his office that was looted or someone else.

Just walked through our United States Capitol. This is despicable. This is unbelievable. All of it. pic.twitter.com/n7sEF4Aa2c

— Tom Brandt (@tomwbrandt) January 7, 2021

I saw a former student on Facebook speculate whether it was really Antifa while her parents cheered on the riot saying this was a long time coming.

And I saw tonight that almost 50% of GOPers surveyed agreed with the people that stormed the Capitol.

Also 400 people were arrested that night for protesting on the street. Not to mention those who were beaten, shot with non-lethal ammo, and tear gassed.

I think we're at 14 for storming the Capital. They didn't even bust out the low-flying helicopter.

"Cops kill white people too", in these circumstances, seems like a particularly strange and uncompelling hill to demand to die on, but you do you.

4 people dead as a result of this insurrection encouraged and spurred on by the sitting occupant of the White House. And not a single thing will be done.

A few token protesters will be arrested and that's it

SI

Just watched the video of the woman getting shot. Zero sympathy. She was part of a group deep in the capitol clearly trying to access an area she shouldn’t have been anywhere near. Amazing same people decrying her death are totally ok shooting a black teen in the back because he cut through their yard in a hoodie.

I believe they just said 52 people were arrested today

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pm...rm-u-s-capitol

Definitely proportional

SI

The guy who was able to break into the Speaker of the House's office, write a note, take a few photos with his feet on the desk, steal something, and then walk out unscathed and brag about it to TV cameras is incredible.

Tim Ryan not mincing words on MSNBC. "Ben Sasse kissing the President's ass", called it a coup, calling for 25th amendment and impeachment.

SI

Watching the (boring) certification on C-SPAN, my wife: "This?!? This is what armed protesters interrupted?!?"

SI

Same. I did love seeing the dingbat GA delegation get shut down to applause.

And again for Michigan.

I notice it's the dead men (and women) walking from Georgia raising the objections? Where's Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley? Did Mitch lock them in a broom closet?

SI

I think they still plan to object to PA. We'll see soon.

It was the QAnon lady who I also learned is a 9/11 truther.

Oh, I thought it was Loeffler - my bad

SI

No, if they had her, then they'd have the Senator they need.

Also, Perdue's term has expired so there's no 2nd Senator for GA until Ossoff's win is certified.

Are they still planning on protesting Pennsylvania or will I be able to go to bed in like 20 mins?

SI

Is it me or does anyone else picture Pence saying "that's me!" in a little voice in his head every time they say his name when he gets some electoral votes?

SI

Last I heard was that Hawley still planned to object, but people were trying to talk him out of it.

Hawley objected, so here we go again.

Nope, the db did it. I'm heading to bed

SI

This is just delusional. All it does is delay the inevitable. I wish Rs would force Hawley to resign.

When even Rand Paul, a man who has never met a cause he won't grandstand meaninglessly for (just like dad), is like "this is stupid", you know this is stupid

SI

Apparently everyone will yield their time so they can vote and then move on.

The lengthy pause seems just as likely to obviously backfire on them in so many ways, but these are the worst of the GOP's idiots who are in too deep to call it off.

You can call them fascists.

Estimate 25 protesters arrested tonight while marching for justice for Jacob Blake. Cops surrounded the entire march on the sidewalk and violently arrested them, accusing them of "being in the street". We're working to get them free! Support https://t.co/T3Ha7BuxjX to help.

— Atlanta Jail Support (@jail_support) January 7, 2021

This makes it even more pointless. Part of Hawley's objection is the courts haven't heard the PA claims so Congress must do so. Instead they'll have a meaningless vote with no evidence or arguments presented.

I think everyone yielding their time in the Senate will work since only Hawley is objecting. House has a lot more digbats who will bloviate.

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Oh look....Some of trump's staff is ripe now and starting to resign

And that's the ballgame!

The pennsylvania objection finally officially bites the dust!

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE ENCHILADA!

VERMONT IS CERTIFIED GIVING BIDEN/HARRIS 271!

The punchline is even at 296, a piece of shit AGAIN objected to Wisconsin, spouting a bunch of lies and then getting shut down by Pence because there was no senator signed on.

I stayed up until it was certified. While still concerns of course I can rest a little easier now.

After listening to the closing prayer, I want to form a band named "Quagmire of Dysfunction" and our first song will be a cover of "Enjoy the Silence" (WOrds can only do harm)

But ya doesn't have to call them fascists...

Analogy from a friend of mine: Graham (and others) try to get off the Titanic by dressing up as women, hoping to get a place on a life boat.

So after 24 hours, let's re-examine how dumb this all was:

Donald Trump is a bitter vindictive idiot who couldn't hold onto power even when he was given both the House and Senate. Yes, under his term, they managed to stuff the SCOTUS and fill some judge vacancies with completely inept lackeys but when you give people roles where they are no longer accountable (like judgeships) they don't really need to follow anyone (ala Samuel Beckett but let's not get ahead of ourselves).

He told his idiot followers to breach the gates (and basically had capitol police not only stand down but open the doors). He wanted this, this was his grand fuck you.

And by the way, let's talk about white privilege for a second, because if this had been BLM, there would've been a massacre (I mean, Muslims flew planes into buildings and we invaded two nations and killed 100s of thousands of people), but white people apparently can storm the Capitol with just one shooting (a 14 year military vet who should've known better, but I think that of most of his stupid ass followers).

Yet after all that, what should've been 30 minutes was grand standing and we still had objections because Trump and Trump reality.

For all of this, nothing changed. Biden is now going to be president and the democrats have the House and Senate (granted tenuous). But I would go full bore and not stop.

McConnel is going to be 80. He is a scumbag but when you see the Nunes, Gaetz and Jim Jordan, you wonder what will happen next.

Somebody equated this to the Beer Hall Putsch, and it may just well be if we continue to be wishy washy over what should be stern enforced response. This could be the end of it, or it could be the last gasp before the center of the line folds.

I don't like Pence, but as a career politician he took the reins and re-secured what could have been a spiraling death of the nation.

I don't think the 25th amendment applies here; Trump must be impeached and imprisoned and then you go after the children and his enablers (Rudy, you are to be hunted).

You need to kill the root to wither the vine. Then I'd be looking at Fox, Newsmax, OAN, Youtube, Parler, Twitter, theDonald, etc...I'd find out who financially sponsors these sites and shine the light on them...you can't censor them, but you can starve them to death without cashflow.

Keep in mind that they say the same stuff about the Left QS

My hope is it just goes away but I'm afraid, due to the echo chamber they've created, it won't.

What makes it even worse is that Hawley is a lawyer and former SC clerk. He knows why the case "wasn't heard". Laches. You cannot wait to after an election to see who wins and then object to a law after you lose. The courts are never going to disenfranchise people who followed the law at the time of the election. He absolutely knows that, and is playing on the fact that is followers are ignorant of that. He should be disbarred.

Haven't seen the video but if she was part of the group that stormed into the Capitol, I've got no problem with that (regardless of white, black, yellow, brown). I'm ambivalent ... like the habitual covid-denier congressman and like the wingsuit example.

I watched it in bed and turned if off after 20 min of Pence saying the same thing over and over again. Felt for the guy.

Man, Nancy Mace may be a newly elected Congresswoman from South Carolina, but she is slamming Trump and his supporters like a member of The Squad.


Edit: That's a massive exageration, but she still is firmly blaming his enablers for what happened.

That image:

The Capitol is mostly empty this morning but many remnants of yesterday remain.

Four bullet holes in the glass of the doors that lead to the House Capitol steps pic.twitter.com/riBDiD2FWs

— Leigh Ann Caldwell (@LACaldwellDC) January 7, 2021

I agree with the author of the tweet. This is amazing boots on the ground reporting.

Watch this astonishing report from @robertmooreitv as he accompanies the mob into the Capitol building as it tears apart Nancy Pelosi’s office. Outstanding reporting from @itvnews
pic.twitter.com/v6QdfWnGmS

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) January 7, 2021

Hope the BLM lawyers are taking notes that you can go onto Federal grounds, destroy property, break and enter, disrupt legal proceedings and walk away (generally unscathed).