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JetsIn06 07-25-2008 08:59 PM

I'll be on tonight if anyone wants to play.

JetsIn06 07-25-2008 10:36 PM

Good game HA. That was a tough one.

Ironhead 07-25-2008 11:44 PM

Had a good game against Mike's Tar Heels tonight. Really tightly played game throughout where I just had a couple of big running plays late.

You will really need to watch those deep passes from Mike. Very good at pulling them in when matched up in 1 on 1 coverage.








JetsIn06 07-26-2008 12:55 AM

Damn Karl. you are nasty with Clemson.

Karlifornia 07-26-2008 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1791817)
Damn Karl. you are nasty with Clemson.


I was really feeling it in the first half, but I gotta give you credit for fighting back in the second half. I didn't want to go for that 4th and IN, but I wasn't sure if my D could keep you out of the endzone up only 3.

GG, as always

Mike1409 07-26-2008 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1791794)
Had a good game against Mike's Tar Heels tonight. Really tightly played game throughout where I just had a couple of big running plays late.

You will really need to watch those deep passes from Mike. Very good at pulling them in when matched up in 1 on 1 coverage.



Don't give away my secrets!

Yup it ws a good game. I thought I did enough mixing up my play calling in the first half. I can't beleive the pick 6 you got he was so open I didn't believe he could make the play.
You complete owned me on that option play I had pressure form the other side, and pulled the safety up to stop your TE. oops!

How was the lag on your end? I felt like everything was in slow motion.

MizzouRah 07-26-2008 10:28 AM

Downloaded the TJsportsguy rosters and had my very first freeze. Was beating Kansas 38-18 when it froze.. not sure if it's roster related, although that was my first play now game with named rosters.

:(

Ironhead 07-26-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike1409 (Post 1791835)
Don't give away my secrets!

Yup it ws a good game. I thought I did enough mixing up my play calling in the first half. I can't beleive the pick 6 you got he was so open I didn't believe he could make the play.
You complete owned me on that option play I had pressure form the other side, and pulled the safety up to stop your TE. oops!

How was the lag on your end? I felt like everything was in slow motion.


The lag wasn't terrible but wasn't great either. Most games have been smooth sailing on my end but the two I played last night were a little sluggish.

Logan 07-26-2008 11:16 AM

Anyone looking to throw down?

Mike1409 07-26-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1791925)
The lag wasn't terrible but wasn't great either. Most games have been smooth sailing on my end but the two I played last night were a little sluggish.


I only asked because I created some sounds for UNC and was wondering if that might have had an effect.

Mike1409 07-26-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMT (Post 2038540281)
What happened was that we encountered way more traffic to the server than we initially thought. Naturally we tested towards more heavy usage than estimated, but what we got was more than the over estimate!


This is from the NCAA Dev at OS. According to him they have fixed the online dynasty issues. I don't like the reason as this has been the most requested feature for a few years!!!

Mike1409 07-26-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1791934)
Anyone looking to throw down?


yes

Eaglesfan27 07-26-2008 02:03 PM

Good game, Mike. I thought I was done for sure once that play was reversed. I thought the non-TD play was on purpose because you wanted to run off more clock. Look forward to our next match. I'll be looking for another game with anyone later this evening.

Mike1409 07-26-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1792005)
Good game, Mike. I thought I was done for sure once that play was reversed. I thought the non-TD play was on purpose because you wanted to run off more clock. Look forward to our next match. I'll be looking for another game with anyone later this evening.


Nope just trying to go up 2 scores, didn't care how much time was left. I was like WTF when he catches the ball in the end zone and then runs backwards to the 5 yard line!!!

Here is the play in question.








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Sun Tzu 07-26-2008 02:21 PM

Should have been a TD...weird.

Logan 07-26-2008 03:27 PM

Awesome game Karl. I was legitimately tense during the whole thing. I feel like I need a nap.

Karlifornia 07-26-2008 03:28 PM

#$@$#@$@# Great game, Logan...your pass defense did me in. Just had nobody open all game long. Guys, Logan is the real deal on both sides of the ball.

Logan 07-26-2008 03:36 PM

Haha...thanks for the (undeserved) compliment. The game was Clemson (Karl) vs. Texas Tech (me). Spiller is so god damn scary to play against. With your offensive talent, I did my best to play a bend-don't-break defense but you were still able to break off long scores with Spiller and Davis. Thankfully I was able to hook up with Crabtree for two long scores too. Your pass rush really messed me up...from the middle of my second drive thru most of the rest of the game, I didn't have a second to think.

I won in OT after Karl tied it during the closing seconds on his 3rd effort from the 1. Davis was a friggin bull on that run.

Karlifornia 07-26-2008 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1792044)
Haha...thanks for the (undeserved) compliment. The game was Clemson (Karl) vs. Texas Tech (me). Spiller is so god damn scary to play against. With your offensive talent, I did my best to play a bend-don't-break defense but you were still able to break off long scores with Spiller and Davis. Thankfully I was able to hook up with Crabtree for two long scores too. Your pass rush really messed me up...from the middle of my second drive thru most of the rest of the game, I didn't have a second to think.

I won in OT after Karl tied it during the closing seconds on his 3rd effort from the 1. Davis was a friggin bull on that run.


Yeah, Crabtree is beast. Both of those plays I was fooled and just hoped that my cpu DB would do something positive.

The pass rush really saved me in the second half. With TTU, you're gonna have 4 wide the whole game, so somebody's gonna be open pretty quick. So on 2nd and 3rd and more than 5 yards...I tightened up the outside coverage and blitzed.

What a fantastic game, though. I probably woke up my roommate with a few "FUCK YEAH"'s and "NOOOO!!"'s

Galaxy 07-26-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1792044)
Haha...thanks for the (undeserved) compliment. The game was Clemson (Karl) vs. Texas Tech (me). Spiller is so god damn scary to play against. With your offensive talent, I did my best to play a bend-don't-break defense but you were still able to break off long scores with Spiller and Davis. Thankfully I was able to hook up with Crabtree for two long scores too. Your pass rush really messed me up...from the middle of my second drive thru most of the rest of the game, I didn't have a second to think.

I won in OT after Karl tied it during the closing seconds on his 3rd effort from the 1. Davis was a friggin bull on that run.


Clemson is scary to play with the incredible two-headed monster in the backfield.

MizzouRah 07-26-2008 08:29 PM

Well, I haven't had a freeze yet and it feels so weird playing teams with Mizzou this year. I'm not used to being so solid all around. :)

There are a few things I don't care for - still think there are too many INT's, we all know about punt returns.. but I like the game much better than I did 08.

Sun Tzu 07-26-2008 08:45 PM

Anybody up for a game right now?

kcchief19 07-26-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1792180)
Well, I haven't had a freeze yet and it feels so weird playing teams with Mizzou this year. I'm not used to being so solid all around. :)

There are a few things I don't care for - still think there are too many INT's, we all know about punt returns.. but I like the game much better than I did 08.

I'm definitely in need of some good sliders once that nonsense is fixed. Playing on Heisman made me better for playing online, but on Heisman I could only play about .500 ball with Mizzou and that's a bit too hard. I've backed down to AA and now I'm a bit too dominant. Playing with this Mizzou team, a national title should be realistic but I'd like to make it a challenge.

I'm getting in a bit of a rhythm playing with Chase now. It's fun to sling the ball around with him. Jimmy Jackson is also a terror out of the backfield in the passing game. I've had a couple of 100-yard receiving games from him. The Mizzou passing attack is just about impossible to beat if you played the spread and take what the game gives you. There is someone open on almost every play if you make the reads.

JetsIn06 07-26-2008 11:01 PM

Found a great set of sliders that have pretty much eliminated the INT problem for me.

Pumpy Tudors 07-26-2008 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1792274)
Found a great set of sliders that have pretty much eliminated the INT problem for me.

Do share. :)

BYU 14 07-27-2008 01:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JetsIn06
Found a great set of sliders that have pretty much eliminated the INT problem for me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1792276)
Do share. :)


Yes, please share. I thought I had the sliders dialed in with only 1 Int in my first 2 games, then I go out and throw 7 against UCLA!! :mad:

Groundhog 07-27-2008 05:29 AM

Man, played Utah vs Utah State. 21 all with 2 mins left to go, ball on my own 5 yard line, I drop back to pass and I'm sacked in the endzone for a safety. :(

Still, was a pretty great game. I was playing on Heisman for one half but had to drop it down because I couldn't do anything except throw interceptions.

mauchow 07-27-2008 07:46 AM

Yeah, I am playing Campus Legend right now and its okay.

The camera angles make it difficult to play. Because it flips so quickly you end up running away from the ball for a second. There are other things, too, but its too early in the morning for me to list them...

MizzouRah 07-27-2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19 (Post 1792238)
I'm definitely in need of some good sliders once that nonsense is fixed. Playing on Heisman made me better for playing online, but on Heisman I could only play about .500 ball with Mizzou and that's a bit too hard. I've backed down to AA and now I'm a bit too dominant. Playing with this Mizzou team, a national title should be realistic but I'd like to make it a challenge.

I'm getting in a bit of a rhythm playing with Chase now. It's fun to sling the ball around with him. Jimmy Jackson is also a terror out of the backfield in the passing game. I've had a couple of 100-yard receiving games from him. The Mizzou passing attack is just about impossible to beat if you played the spread and take what the game gives you. There is someone open on almost every play if you make the reads.


Passing is sweet! That opens up the running game too. Defense is very dominant.. in fact, I know most say pass rushing is broken, but I get at least 2-4 sacks every game.

fantom1979 07-27-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike1409 (Post 1792012)


The apology letter from the NCAA will be arriving at your house any day now.

Raiders Army 07-27-2008 02:39 PM

FWIW, I think the TJdasportsguy rosters are what killed my 360. I was playing a Play Now game with a guy with the same rosters (names were showing up in the game) and it froze and I got the 3 red rings of death on my 360 which I've had just short of 3 years (got it shortly after launch).

Anyhow, I got the PS3 version and I gotta tell you it's much smoother in terms of gameplay. It just feels more natural. I feel as if I can actually control the DBs and swat and intercept balls instead of jumping and hoping.

JetsIn06 07-27-2008 03:27 PM

Here are the sliders I've been using. YMMV.

Offense (Same for both sides, CPU sliders are busted)

25
0
0
45
100

Defense (Same on both sides)

100
90
0
10
5

ST (same)

10
35
45
55
70

Hope these work out for someone else. It's very tough to throw on the run with these though, so keep that in mind.

Eaglesfan27 07-27-2008 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1792499)
FWIW, I think the TJdasportsguy rosters are what killed my 360. I was playing a Play Now game with a guy with the same rosters (names were showing up in the game) and it froze and I got the 3 red rings of death on my 360 which I've had just short of 3 years (got it shortly after launch).

Anyhow, I got the PS3 version and I gotta tell you it's much smoother in terms of gameplay. It just feels more natural. I feel as if I can actually control the DBs and swat and intercept balls instead of jumping and hoping.



I've used those rosters with zero problems since they have been released.

Eaglesfan27 07-27-2008 03:38 PM

I'm surprised you don't get a ton of CPU picks with those sliders. Everytime I lowered QB accuracy, the reduced power led to the CPU throwing a bunch of picks.

Raiders Army 07-27-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1792523)
I've used those rosters with zero problems since they have been released.


Hrm. Then it was just a coincidence then. I choose to blame his rosters vs. Microsoft's great workmanship. :)

Dr. Sak 07-27-2008 04:25 PM

Where and how do you get the rosters with names on them?

Raiders Army 07-27-2008 04:32 PM

You can go to TJdasportsguy's EA locker and download them from him. He doesn't need to be a friend.

I downloaded the PS3's rosters from operation sports.

Dr. Sak 07-27-2008 04:44 PM

Thank you.

Now I need to find out why I cant sign into my gamertag (drsak) to link it up to my computer to upload sounds.

MizzouRah 07-27-2008 04:48 PM

Yeah, I use TJ's rosters and I've only had one freeze so far, I think it's just EA's games. I get them at random times with NHL 08 as well.

Logan 07-27-2008 06:30 PM

NCAA 09 is the greatest game of all time. Here's why:

I hauled in a pass in the corner of the end zone, and my guy dragged his feet to make it count. This got me an "achievement unlocked" popup that read "Tippy Toe! Lemon Tree!"

Fantastic.

(for you Seinfeld fans out there)

RainMaker 07-27-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1792521)
Here are the sliders I've been using. YMMV.

Offense (Same for both sides, CPU sliders are busted)

25
0
0
45
100

Defense (Same on both sides)

100
90
0
10
5

ST (same)

10
35
45
55
70

Hope these work out for someone else. It's very tough to throw on the run with these though, so keep that in mind.


Is that for Heisman? I tried them on AA and got 6 picks off Michigan State. I usually prefer AA in NCAA, but I'm having a hard time getting awareness up to where it needs to be while not having 2-3 pick 6's a game.

Does anyone know when the sliders will be fixed? Moving the CPU awareness up with human staying at 50 would seem to be the best overall fix. Right now with awareness so high, interceptions are just too easy.

JetsIn06 07-27-2008 08:37 PM

yes, for Heisman.

Also, don't press Y for every pass they throw. Press A. It will swat it instead. The only picks you will get is when they are throwing it away from where you are and you cant control the nearest player fast enough. This leads to a realistic amount of picks for me.

Mike1409 07-27-2008 08:57 PM

Now this is some tough defense!!!







Kodos 07-27-2008 11:20 PM

The Invisible Man strikes!

SFL Cat 07-27-2008 11:34 PM

Definitely some freaky wind effects in that stadium. :popcorn:

Noop 07-28-2008 12:04 AM

My impression of this game is that it is very fun and despite the bugs. Normally I pass 80% of the team when I play because running the ball usually wasn't any fun. However with this game I run close to 60% of the time, out of various formations (uses motions, flips, etc) and actually feel rewarded for making the correct audible.

And I like the quick audibles because it saves me the trouble of having to manually change my audibles to the same formation so I can audible without giving away what i am doing. In my dynasty I am currently in 2015 and the different kind of players (especially at WR) adds a lot of strategy to building a team.

That being said I still won't buy Madden.

:)

JetsIn06 07-28-2008 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1792843)
My impression of this game is that it is very fun and despite the bugs. Normally I pass 80% of the team when I play because running the ball usually wasn't any fun. However with this game I run close to 60% of the time, out of various formations (uses motions, flips, etc) and actually feel rewarded for making the correct audible.

And I like the quick audibles because it saves me the trouble of having to manually change my audibles to the same formation so I can audible without giving away what i am doing. In my dynasty I am currently in 2015 and the different kind of players (especially at WR) adds a lot of strategy to building a team.

That being said I still won't buy Madden.

:)


I'm in 2012....I actually think the game does a great job of simming out games. NOT in supersim, but just the regular old sim this game button. It makes it tougher because you lose games you are supposed to...I probably play out one game a year. I have so much fun recruiting and it's very easy and intuitive...you are definitely right about the WR's as well. I just recruited a 6-7 WR. He's not as good as my other guys but I want to slot him in there just for the jump balls.

Galaxy 07-28-2008 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 1792792)
The Invisible Man strikes!


The Invisible Defense is more like it.

Kodos 07-28-2008 08:42 AM

He's also wicked fast. Sometimes appears like there is more than one of him on the field.

Noop 07-28-2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1792862)
I'm in 2012....I actually think the game does a great job of simming out games. NOT in supersim, but just the regular old sim this game button. It makes it tougher because you lose games you are supposed to...I probably play out one game a year. I have so much fun recruiting and it's very easy and intuitive...you are definitely right about the WR's as well. I just recruited a 6-7 WR. He's not as good as my other guys but I want to slot him in there just for the jump balls.


Yeah I usually play the big regular season games that I normally schedule early in the season because I like to try to win at all of the toughest place's to play. Recruiting is very fun but it is also kinda of broken because it is impossible to recruit 25 players at once and a work around that I have found is to target 8 players and work them to commit early then add another 8 which gives me 16. The final slots I usually go search the list for guys who aren't being heavily recruited and just fill in those slots the next cycle.

One concern though it seems like my whole team wants to go pro every single season. I lost my entire starting O-Line(4 seniors and a R-Soph) and two backs which really destroyed my team for the next two seasons. I always try to stock pile O-Linemen but always lost 3 to the draft even if they are underclassmen. Its a good thing JUCO's are actually good in this game.

It's a very fun game. Current I just recruited a five star athlete who was rated 86 at WR with 97 and he is a baller.

Sun Tzu 07-28-2008 10:38 AM

I'm going to be home all day today, so if anyone is up for a game let me know.

Logan 07-28-2008 11:40 AM

Middle of season 1 with Rutgers and I just landed the #1 CB in the nation. Must've been a great visit as I went from 6th on his list to a soft verbal after his visit, and then a hard commit a week later. If I remember correctly, in last year's game, it was nearly impossible to keep a soft verbal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1792969)
Recruiting is very fun but it is also kinda of broken because it is impossible to recruit 25 players at once and a work around that I have found is to target 8 players and work them to commit early then add another 8 which gives me 16.


I disagree with this. Are you sure you're not spending way too much time on each guy? I can squeeze all 25 into a week, although usually I'll leave a few out each week that aren't top priorities and already have me as their first choice.

JetsIn06 07-28-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1792969)
Yeah I usually play the big regular season games that I normally schedule early in the season because I like to try to win at all of the toughest place's to play. Recruiting is very fun but it is also kinda of broken because it is impossible to recruit 25 players at once and a work around that I have found is to target 8 players and work them to commit early then add another 8 which gives me 16. The final slots I usually go search the list for guys who aren't being heavily recruited and just fill in those slots the next cycle.

One concern though it seems like my whole team wants to go pro every single season. I lost my entire starting O-Line(4 seniors and a R-Soph) and two backs which really destroyed my team for the next two seasons. I always try to stock pile O-Linemen but always lost 3 to the draft even if they are underclassmen. Its a good thing JUCO's are actually good in this game.

It's a very fun game. Current I just recruited a five star athlete who was rated 86 at WR with 97 and he is a baller.


Just won the national championship in 2013. Woohoo!!! It's funny that you say that you like to play in the toughest places to play...I do exactly the same thing. This season I scheduled a game at USC and then Cal back to back. I simmed the USC game and won, then played the Cal game and won.

JetsIn06 07-28-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1793136)
Middle of season 1 with Rutgers and I just landed the #1 CB in the nation. Must've been a great visit as I went from 6th on his list to a soft verbal after his visit, and then a hard commit a week later. If I remember correctly, in last year's game, it was nearly impossible to keep a soft verbal.



I disagree with this. Are you sure you're not spending way too much time on each guy? I can squeeze all 25 into a week, although usually I'll leave a few out each week that aren't top priorities and already have me as their first choice.


I agree with you....I'm doing fine in recruiting. Sometimes I feel like I have *too much* time. I check to see how far ahead I am, and if I'm way ahead of the 2nd choice, I'll spend 10 minutes on him. That leaves me plenty of time for everyone else.

Logan...I'm also playing with RU. Like I said, just won the 'ship in 2013. D.C. Jefferson did great for a year as a Sophmore, but then my redshirted 4 start QB was eligible...I made a tough decision to bench D.C. for the new guy. He proceeded to set all kinds of school records and led us to the win in his JR year. I also had a 5-star RB and a 4-star RB. My biggest problem was rebuilding the o-line after a bunch of the original starters left.

Logan 07-28-2008 02:39 PM

Unless I bring in a big recruit, I'm hoping to give DC the job two years down the road.

Sun Tzu 07-28-2008 04:46 PM

Still lookin for a game here. Any east coasters get off of work yet?

Karlifornia 07-28-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1793610)
Still lookin for a game here. Any east coasters get off of work yet?


I may be able to get revenge in about 10 minutes..Gotta wait for the roommate to get done with her telemarketing.

Sun Tzu 07-28-2008 04:53 PM

Are you on dialup? :)

Karlifornia 07-28-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1793624)
Are you on dialup? :)


She uses voip, and swears the data transfering from the xbox makes her phone calls "choppy"...

PROTIP: Never live with someone who works at home.

Sun Tzu 07-28-2008 05:00 PM

Tell her to get a real job, and to do the dishes.

DeToxRox 07-28-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1793636)
Tell her to get a real job, and to do the dishes.


Maybe he should give her chylmedia! True story ask Karl about it.

JetsIn06 07-28-2008 05:04 PM

Damn...had to return the game to blockbuster today. Ordered one on Ebay last night so I'll be without access for a few days.

Karlifornia 07-28-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1793640)
Maybe he should give her chylmedia! True story ask Karl about it.


:(

Sun Tzu 07-28-2008 06:19 PM

Pass Interference dammit! :)

Groundhog 07-28-2008 06:21 PM

I suck at this game. On AA I'm throwing about 3 ints a game with Midd Tenn State, though it has been against 2 good teams (Maryland and Kentucky).

Most alarming to me is the amount of sacks I'm able to tally. A lot of this has to do with how crap QBs are at running the ball, as my linemen get to them just as they begin to tuck the ball away to run with it. I played Kentucky last night and I sacked the QB 8 times, nearly all of them thanks to Kentucky's playbook which seemed to have an endless amount of delayed running plays by their slow ass QB.

Karlifornia 07-28-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1793702)
Pass Interference dammit! :)


Revenge is sweet :)

Sun Tzu 07-28-2008 06:39 PM

Fine fine :)

Next time I'll choose a team 10 overall points better...bastard. heheh

Noop 07-28-2008 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1793136)
I disagree with this. Are you sure you're not spending way too much time on each guy? I can squeeze all 25 into a week, although usually I'll leave a few out each week that aren't top priorities and already have me as their first choice.


I typically like to give every guy at least one hour when i make the initial offer and this usually leaves me without enough minutes for the guys lower on my list. My current strategy has yielded about 5 number one classes and always in the top 10. I guess that was just my opinion, no harm done.

Karlifornia 07-29-2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1793715)
Fine fine :)

Next time I'll choose a team 10 overall points better...bastard. heheh


Yeah, I know the juggernaut that is the Arizona Wildcats can be tough to stop. Next time I'll go with Skyline, Foothill, or San Francisco Community College ;)

Sun Tzu 07-29-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1793936)
Yeah, I know the juggernaut that is the Arizona Wildcats can be tough to stop. Next time I'll go with Skyline, Foothill, or San Francisco Community College ;)


haha...hey I attended Foothill for 1 semester :)

Kodos 07-30-2008 12:09 AM

Wow. I am just getting shredded recently. Bigsmooth just beat me 31-0... Good game, man. I am having serious troubles with this game recently. I can't do anything right. No running game, can't stop the run, no passing game. Recipe for losing for sure.

Bigsmooth 07-30-2008 12:15 AM

Yeah that 2nd game was kind of fluky...I def got some home field love on that early fumble. The first game we played was pretty intense though.

Anthony 07-30-2008 12:18 AM

kodos: you also can't stop teams on 4th and 8th in your territory and freely allow them to score on such downs.

one thing i don't know what i'm doing wrong is when i'm on defense and the other guys throws a loooong bomb that connects with the WR who somehow got past my DB or is at least behind him enough so that the ball just drops into his hands. i don't know how to defend that cuz when i press Y to go for the INT i must time it wrong and jump too early or maybe not jump high enough to block/swat the pass. i can't seem to get any of my WRs to run past the DB. doesn't work for me. even if i can, it winds up being knocked away. that's one trick i don't have in my arsenal.

Kodos 07-30-2008 12:24 AM

Yeah. Punt defenses aren't great at coverage.

Bigsmooth 07-30-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1795286)
you also can't stop teams on 4th and 8th in your territory and freely allow them to score on such downs.

one thing i don't know what i'm doing wrong is when i'm on defense and the other guys throws a loooong bomb that connects with the WR who somehow got past my DB or is at least behind him enough so that the ball just drops into his hands. i don't know how to defend that cuz when i press Y to go for the INT i must time it wrong and jump too early or maybe not jump high enough to block/swat the pass. i can't seem to get any of my WRs to run past the DB. doesn't work for me. even if i can, it winds up being knocked away. that's one trick i don't have in my arsenal.


In this situation, use the A button instead of Y. The defender will jump to deflect the ball rather than trying to pick it.

Anthony 07-30-2008 12:36 AM

i'll post a highlight next time it happens. some guys i play against here seem to be able to just simply get the jump on me and will loft this high arcing nuclear bomb of a pass and i'm left scratching my head wondering how the WR was able to get behind my DB so easily. the only other thing i try to do is when the WR inevitably catches the ball i try to time the tackle so that the ball gets jarred loose but while that sounds great in theory it doesn't work in the game.

Karlifornia 07-30-2008 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1795306)
i'll post a highlight next time it happens. some guys i play against here seem to be able to just simply get the jump on me and will loft this high arcing nuclear bomb of a pass and i'm left scratching my head wondering how the WR was able to get behind my DB so easily. the only other thing i try to do is when the WR inevitably catches the ball i try to time the tackle so that the ball gets jarred loose but while that sounds great in theory it doesn't work in the game.


Not me,though. I just punked you like the bitch that you are, hahahaha. Don't even act like you want another taste.


Just kidding. I got lucky.


And I'd get even luckier if we played again, bitch. BOOM!

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-30-2008 07:22 AM

For those still considering whether to purchase the game, here's a pretty good video detailing some issues. I believe Peter Moore was quoted yesterday as saying there were "a handful of bugs". I'm guessing he has big hands...........

My Favorite NCAA 09 Videos - Operation Sports Forums

Eaglesfan27 07-30-2008 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1795306)
i'll post a highlight next time it happens. some guys i play against here seem to be able to just simply get the jump on me and will loft this high arcing nuclear bomb of a pass and i'm left scratching my head wondering how the WR was able to get behind my DB so easily. the only other thing i try to do is when the WR inevitably catches the ball i try to time the tackle so that the ball gets jarred loose but while that sounds great in theory it doesn't work in the game.



Sounds like someone is abusing the rocket catch which is very hard/nearly impossible to defend (low hit stick may be the only real way.) I've seen one person I play on here abuse it as well.

Sun Tzu 07-30-2008 09:07 AM

The best way to defend against long passes down the sidelines is...don't play man to man press coverage all game long. I see a lot of people crowd the line every single down, and then they get upset when I'm able to connect on long pass after long pass.

Dr. Sak 07-30-2008 09:09 AM

The way I have stopped a few long passes is when my DB was in position ahead of the WR and I just stopped; having the WR run directly into me. I know it isn't exactly legal but it works.

Sun Tzu 07-30-2008 09:12 AM

This is the nature of college football. Some teams air it out all the time, and if you go into a game against a team that regularly plays 3 or 4 wide spread offense, and your sticking to a 4-3, or even Nickel Strong, you're going to get burned. You have to switch up your play calling to match whatever they are going to throw at you. If somebody likes to air it out, then you're gunna have to predict the downs they are going to go deep and put a safety or two back there to help. Instead of giving up the long ball, you'll be swatting it down or even picking him off.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-30-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1795509)
The best way to defend against long passes down the sidelines is...don't play man to man press coverage all game long. I see a lot of people crowd the line every single down, and then they get upset when I'm able to connect on long pass after long pass.


Or it could be because the man to man coverage is one of the broken aspects of AI in this game, as has been mentioned on several message boards and reviews.

Sun Tzu 07-30-2008 09:19 AM

Eh, I have yet to have someone take me deep more than once or twice in a game. I think people just need to learn how to play defense...not necessarily directing these comments at anybody here btw. I just don't see enough people calling a defense that actually mirrors what the offense is doing. If I had listened to all of the things that are supposedely "broken" in every football game that's come out for Next Gen, then I'd be as delusional as you.

cartman 07-30-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1795536)
Or it could be because the man to man coverage is one of the broken aspects of AI in this game, as has been mentioned on several message boards and reviews.


You know, actually playing the game gives you an insight into the game that you just can't glean from reading reviews or viewing random isolated plays that you have no knowledge of how the sliders were set up or skill level of those playing.

Dr. Sak 07-30-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1795546)
Eh, I have yet to have someone take me deep more than once or twice in a game. I think people just need to learn how to play defense...not necessarily directing these comments at anybody here btw. I just don't see enough people calling a defense that actually mirrors what the offense is doing. If I had listened to all of the things that are supposedely "broken" in every football game that's come out for Next Gen, then I'd be as delusional as you.


You are right. You can't expect corners who are rated 15 pts below a WR to keep up with them in man press down after down. You have to adjust your playcalling to your strengths and weaknesses.

Just like on offense, if your line cant run block, you don't keep trying to run up the middle. You use short passes to supplement the running game.

MizzouRah 07-30-2008 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1795522)
This is the nature of college football. Some teams air it out all the time, and if you go into a game against a team that regularly plays 3 or 4 wide spread offense, and your sticking to a 4-3, or even Nickel Strong, you're going to get burned. You have to switch up your play calling to match whatever they are going to throw at you. If somebody likes to air it out, then you're gunna have to predict the downs they are going to go deep and put a safety or two back there to help. Instead of giving up the long ball, you'll be swatting it down or even picking him off.


Totally agree with this. I blew up my neighbor playing with Mizzou and then I let him use Mizzou and by calling the right defenses, I held him pretty well with Texas Tech's defense.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-30-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu (Post 1795546)
Eh, I have yet to have someone take me deep more than once or twice in a game. I think people just need to learn how to play defense...not necessarily directing these comments at anybody here btw. I just don't see enough people calling a defense that actually mirrors what the offense is doing. If I had listened to all of the things that are supposedely "broken" in every football game that's come out for Next Gen, then I'd be as delusional as you.


So does this mean that I'm suddenly back off of your 'silence' list that I was supposedly on last week? I'm guessing that it's much easier to call me delusional than discuss the inherent problems 'in the game'.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-30-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1795553)
You know, actually playing the game gives you an insight into the game that you just can't glean from reading reviews or viewing random isolated plays that you have no knowledge of how the sliders were set up or skill level of those playing.


I received the game over the weekend. Everything that has been posted about the game's significant flaws is spot-on. I was actually surprised at how little time it took me on my own to reproduce or find some of the major problems. It's pretty embarrassing stuff.

cartman 07-30-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1795662)
I received the game over the weekend. Everything that has been posted about the game's significant flaws is spot-on. I was actually surprised at how little time it took me on my own to reproduce or find some of the major problems. It's pretty embarrassing stuff.


Least surprising post ever.

Sun Tzu 07-30-2008 10:25 AM

+1

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-30-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1795673)
Least surprising post ever.


There's very little to disguise at this point. It's become obvious that the concerns that several of us had before the release have come to fruition. Most people are smart enough to not defend the game at this point. It's been an absolute debacle. Not only are NCAA sales down, but the early indication from retailers is that it's expected to impact Madden pre-orders and sales as well. EA's major sales push in the past was to get the hype up to a level where people wer inclined to pre-order their games before the flaws were exposed. Now that pre-orders sales are down, EA is releasing spin to indicate that pre-sales aren't that big of a deal. When a company that relies on pre-order and first-week sales begins to downplay their importance, you know that something is amiss.

Sun Tzu 07-30-2008 11:03 AM

k

Kodos 07-30-2008 11:03 AM

thx.

cartman 07-30-2008 11:05 AM

It is no where near an absolute debacle. Metacritic scores it an 83, based on 13 reviews. By no means is the game perfect, and no one here is arguing that it is. Yes, there are flaws, but most rational people here can agree that they aren't gamekillers.

So call me stupid for defending the game, but I, along with quite a few other people here, are having a blast with the game as is. If a future patch addresses some of the flaws, that would be great, and further increase the enjoyment. But the game is very far from unplayable at the moment, no matter how much you protest to the contrary. If I wanted an unplayable football game, there is a much better candidate out there from Matrix.

Bigsmooth 07-30-2008 11:25 AM

You absolutely have to think on defense and mix up your coverages. My head usually hurts after a game versus a good player from trying to call the perfect defensive play, on every down, to contain the offensive team, especially considering the game caters to the big O.
If a guy goes deep a lot (and I've been killed by this online) you pretty much have to play as one of the safeties and double team the WR. Pretty much the only time I will go deep is on play-action, when my WR obviously gets a step on the defender. This, to me, is not taking advantage of AI. Also, cannot depend on your AI cornerback to make a play. It's hard to do but you have to switch to your CB, speed burst, and press A to deflect.

MizzouRah 07-30-2008 11:26 AM

I think I only enjoy flawed games nowdays.. I mean, I liked NHL 2k8, MLB 2k8, and now NCAA 09.

I hope Madden and Head Coach are perfect so I don't have to spend $90.

Cringer 07-30-2008 11:36 AM

I still say this is the best console football game I have played. Yes I see flaws, but I still have fun with the game. Hell I started a Campus Legend career and have not even gotten into a normal 'career' game yet. It has been fun.

spleen1015 07-30-2008 11:45 AM

I have watched those videos that show the bad pursuit. Is that the case on every play or is it just every once in a while?


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