The thing that's the most dangerous here besides the obvious, looking forward, will be the easy manipulation of voice and video using AI and editing. Like, I'm not sure if by 2024, you won't have trump up there saying that he wasn't on the phone with the National Guard trying to stop it, with audio evidence from somewhere and it'll be close enough to create reasonable doubt.

From that, anything and everything, where you could create reasonable doubt is able to be manipulated. Chaos will ensue, and the full force of the post truth world will be dropped.

Unless the government gets a real handle on it, and some level of trust in the government can be restored, even if it means declaring these people traitors to the country (and believe me, if it goes the other way, just as easy their 'enemies' will be declared traitors). The country I grew up in will be lost.

I really don't have much of a hope at this point. The House is almost certainly gone, and I'm afraid the Senate as well. By 2024, we may be looking at a GOP landslide. I think most of the freedoms we have taken for granted are going to be gone in the next ten years. Fox News will be considered liberal by the standard of what's coming.

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Remember, for like a few minutes, when we could pretend that overturning Roe v Wade might lead to a tiny, close victory in one midterm that might be tenuously be held until the next Presidential election, assuming the Supreme Court somehow doesn't agree with the independent state legislature theory by the narrowest of margins? We almost could pretend that trading reproductive rights might give us 3 more years of normalcy until the next would be despot comes along and breaks our democracy for at least a generation.

SI

I just see a bunch of stupid white people who are angry at the idea anyone else could be better then them.

Truth be told, as a upper middle class white male heterosexual with a stable income and very little debt. I'm gonna be fine in the new revolution.

I'll probably pursue EU citizenship, I can afford it just to peace out when things boil over, but this isn't really going to affect me.

The funny part is all those stupids spouting rhetoric are going to be miserable under the new regime when nothing changes for them when the new landowners start dictating demands.

I agree to an extent. But also, if you don't fight back, maybe you don't really care about those lies anyway.

Not that it's going to matter, but apparently another woman who Walker paid for an abortion will be coming forward this afternoon. Perhaps we should just cut to the chase and have every woman who hasn't had an abortion paid for by Walker raise their hands.

If anything it'll probably make him look better to them in a "LOOK AT HOW MANY BITCHES THIS ALPHA WAS FUCKING" sense.

GOP voters demonstrably don't care about the the personal values their politicians live, as long as a) the values they espouse are the right ones and more importantly b) they vote the right way in Congress (or wherever).

The ends justify the means. Once they successfully set up a white nationalist fundamentalist christian theocratic state, they can come back around and line up sinners like Walker against the wall, as their usefulness will have run its course.

Sinners like Walker and Trump are exempt. My father is a devout “Christian” and is one of those individuals who is always looking to spread the word but he sees no issue when it comes to Walker, Trump, etc.

It’s truly baffling to see individuals like him who can’t see the hypocrisy they are living out by supporting these clowns.

I just have no time for people who wish to espouse things on others in the name of Christianity and then totally ignore blatant things their faith pretends to care about.

They're just phonies. Pretending to be a Christian gives them a green light to be hateful or a bigot. They don't care or even know the basics of Christianity or the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Anyone figure out what the DOJ does?

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Trump should presumptively declare himself the 2024 nominee and completely bypass the notion of a competitive primary. If he gets any pushback, maybe threaten a 3rd party run. I think this is his best play.

Yes. The only thing I can think of is that campaign finance laws make it harder to steal all the money after he declares.

Tucker just ran a documentary that shows Blake Masters breaking campaign finance laws on video. I think he could take all that money and buy a super yacht for himself and nothing would be done.

Laws don't apply to these people.

someone should write a new book "Kanye West is a big fat idiot"
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have you had any heart to heart with him about it? curious if you got anywhere

Yes, it's mostly from doomscrolling, but I feel like things are trending really negative for the midterms.

How much of that by design to combat complacency?

Dems are having to spend money in areas Biden carried by close to double digits. This is going to be a slaughter. People would rather spend .30 cents less for eggs then preserve democracy

People would rather vote for the promise of .30 less for eggs (that they probably know in their heart of hearts won't be delivered)

SI

Thats what blows my mind. Has anyone seen any actual plans from the right for reducing inflation or fixing the border?

1. More illegal immigrants being paid under the table to drive down wages.
2. Giant walls to keep illegal immigrants from stealing low paying jobs.

Big, beautiful walls! Yuuuge walls.

SI

Paid for by Mexico!

Inflation, gas prices, the border, healthcare, crime, ect.

They currently don't have policy plans for anything really. It's far easier to just run against whatever your opponent wants to do and create anger, outrage, and division than actually put your policy on paper to be picked apart.

McCain and Romney tried to run on policy and they found out their ideas aren't very popular and lost. So now you just piss everyone off and if the election doesn't go your way you hope to find a sympathetic judge that's willing to overthrow democracy.

Not sure where this belongs. NY Post got hacked and it is something else...

I don't recall if I saw this here, another board that I'm on, or just somewhere random online like Twitter or Reddit (and I'm poorly paraphrasing)

He's the perfect patsy for them. He's a dumb jock and an "amoral" man sexually who had abortions and kids out of wedlock by multiple women - all the negative stereotypes they preach. But, even better, he's a hypocrite, willing to compromise any principles he might have had, so long as it gets him power. Because no person, especially of color, could actually exist that doesn't have just a savage, base selfishness. So they can hold him up an an example, a caricature of all they hate while being a kept man, subservient under their thumb - the place where he belongs.

SI

So he's Sam Jackson's "Stephen" from Django?

So how long before the orange windbag is back spouting nonsense on Twitter? 6 hours? 12 hours?

I don't follow Trump but you don't really have to because he's omnipresent. I'm not mentally prepared for people to be retweeting and discussing his BS.

I wish it was 2002 when I had 4-5 messageboards to post at.

Hunter Biden.

Hillary’s emails?

If it turns out that Hillary ever emailed Hunter Biden, it's over.

We saw a lot of antichrist rhetoric after Trump was elected, but I am pretty sure Kari Lake is the antichrist.

Pelosi home invasion?

Suggesting it was staged in three
...two....one..

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My two favorites so far:

There is no constitutional prohibition against violently assaulting the husband of the Speaker of the House, so it’s hard for me to see why the police have taken the assailant into custody.

-Jonathan Turley

— New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) October 28, 2022

has the person who attacked Paul Pelosi been invited to speak at CPAC yet

— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) October 28, 2022

I think I mentioned it before, but the NY Times Pitchbot is a great follow.

Before we get any facts, I assume the speculation runs:

Liberal/most media - MAGA nutcase

Fox News/Right-Wing media - Random dude encouraged by Dems/SF's soft crime policies

They live in a super posh area, they are loaded. No way this was a random home invasion.

Within a couple hours right wing media will be calling it a false flag.

100% it was Antifa

Or Hunter Biden!

The police are saying that this was targeted and not a random house.

And conservatives are already all over Twitter saying this is a "Jesse Smollett".

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Too, soon?

Poor, Paul Pelosi. First, he’s busted for DUI, and then gets attacked in his home. Hammered twice in six months.

— Larry Elder (@larryelder) October 28, 2022

Could have been the Gov. of California.

Good people, these.

Variations of that have been all over GOP twitter including a lot of current candidates.

Who had "Husband of Speaker in the House attacked while crazy guy asked 'where is the speaker' a year and change after people ransacking Congress with the speaker near the top of the list of people targeted to be killed?"

This is definitely normal.

SI

Was he a teacher of third grade?


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Elon Musk is now spreading these dumb conspiracy theories about the attacker.

Sigh. I've actually found a pretty nice/fun professional community on Twitter. And it's fun to talk about sports there.

And he's gonna turn it into 8-chan within 3 months.

I don't think that Twitter changing will affect politics much (that ship sailed with facebook).

It's just that there was one social media site that made some small attempts to keep Nazis and MAGA from spraying diarrhea all over the place and those attempts kept it just pleasant enough that you could find some nice communities there.

And Musk decided to end all that--pretty much out of boredom from what I can tell.