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HerRealName 10-19-2022 11:50 AM

Wilder was a very underrated leader in the Civil War. He saw very early the importance of repeating rifles. He didn't get much support from his superiors so he scrapped to raise the funds to buy his mounted infantry the repeating rifles. He even used his own savings and took out a loan to buy the repeaters but I think he was eventually reimbursed by the US Govt.

The repeating rifles immediately flipped the previous Confederate calvary superiority. He led the way on the Tullahoma campaign to kick the Confeds out of Western Tennessee and pretty much saved the Army's Northern flank before the battle of Chickamauga.

At least that moron brought a little attention to a deserving leader even if it was for the wrong reason.

Ksyrup 10-19-2022 03:33 PM

I'm in Vegas for a couple days and man, the political ads in Nevada are something else. "My opponent advocated hanging another political opponent, said we should shoot certain people like rabid dogs, and ... [Ends with an anti-abortion position, which is certainly anticlimactic compared to the rest of the list]."

RainMaker 10-19-2022 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3381103)
I don't think she rewrote anything. I don't think it was anything other than "military monument in the south = confederacy." That was the clear assumption.


Yeah, she doesn't know who these people were and just assumed it was for the Confederacy and thought this would own the libs or whatever.

Kind of insulting to someone who fought for this country but these people are the phoniest patriots imagineable.

cuervo72 10-19-2022 10:17 PM

"Always" defend history. Japanese internment? Treatment of the mentally ill? Syphilis studies? Smallpox blankets? Slavery? (I mean, sort of implied above.)

RainMaker 10-20-2022 12:17 AM

https://www.theverge.com/c/23374765/...-2020-homeland

sterlingice 10-20-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3381163)


The outcry and oversight on this went away much too quickly. I mean, I could understand it if it was too conspiracy theory but NPR was reporting on it - not somebody's Facebook page or tabloid.

This is the type of thing the both-sides crowd seems to (often willfully) miss. There were no Democrats using an alphabet soup of willing agencies as a private police force in unmarked vans to whisk people off the street, ostensibly to "protect monuments". Or tear gas protesters to hold a Bible upside down. Or pushing a fake theory to the Supreme Court to allow for rigged elections because it's the only way they can win a popular national election - well, that and try to pull a bunch of legit voter registrations, break down any voter protection laws, and voter intimidation. But, again, tell me how this is a policy discussion like, say, how best to spend our tax money and not walking us down the road to brutal apartheid fascism?

SI

cuervo72 10-20-2022 11:30 AM

Hoo boy.


Kodos 10-20-2022 11:37 AM

Listen up: She speaks reason!

sterlingice 10-20-2022 11:57 AM

Should I know who that is? I'm assuming a Newsmax host, which means she was too crappy even for Fox.

SI

cuervo72 10-20-2022 12:37 PM

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Lara Logan (born 29 March 1971) is a South African television and radio journalist and war correspondent. She was a correspondent for CBS News between 2002 and 2018. 60 Minutes executive producer Jeff Fager called her factually incorrect and politically slanted story on the 2012 Benghazi attack "the worst mistake on my 10-year watch." In 2019, she joined the Sinclair Broadcast Group, a conservative media company. In January 2020, she joined Fox Nation, a subscription streaming service run by Fox News. In March 2022, she said she had been "dumped" by the network.

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JPhillips 10-20-2022 12:42 PM

She's nuts, but I have a hard time going after her after she was raped. That really seems to have disconnected her from reality.

cuervo72 10-20-2022 01:03 PM

True (though some people look to have chimed in to the effect of "lots of us have been raped but we haven't all gone batshit insane.").

Lathum 10-20-2022 07:16 PM

When you've lost Newsmax...



CrimsonFox 10-20-2022 10:29 PM

sounds tasty.

NobodyHere 10-21-2022 07:13 AM

I missed the part in Sunday School where Jesus talked about national border security.

sterlingice 10-21-2022 07:25 AM

I seem to remember at the end of the Good Samaritan, when asked "who is my neighbor", Jesus said "Only people with the long form birth certificate from their country of origin. Everyone else can get fucked."

SI

miami_fan 10-21-2022 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3381250)
When you've lost Newsmax...




Or when Newsmax succumbs to the woke left and engages in cancel culture.

sterlingice 10-21-2022 07:58 AM

I guess OAN it is!

SI

Thomkal 10-21-2022 01:40 PM

Bannon gets 4 months, which I'm sure he will appeal so he won't go to jail right away, but at least for now no Trump to pardon him.



I'm not sure I've seen a better example of contempt of congress than Bannon. He should be the poster boy for it. I really wish the minimum sentence was a year, a larger fine, not being able to vote in a federal election, fund raise for anyone there, or hold any position at the federal level anymore.

RainMaker 10-21-2022 01:41 PM

He'll never spend a minute behind bars.

sterlingice 10-21-2022 02:03 PM

I'm assuming his play here is just to wait until November and if the House goes GOP, this all just goes away

SI

NobodyHere 10-21-2022 02:17 PM

What exactly could a GOP house do to get Bannon out of jail at this point?

Kodos 10-21-2022 02:19 PM

End the January 6 committee and say we're all done. Nothing to see here.

NobodyHere 10-21-2022 03:02 PM

Even then how would that get Bannon out of jail? He's been convicted.

Thomkal 10-21-2022 03:09 PM

Trump officially subpaened by the Jan 6 committee and ordered to appear on my birthday Nov 14. Also Washington Post reports that Trump had classified documents on China and Iran at Mar-a-Lago

RainMaker 10-21-2022 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3381321)
Even then how would that get Bannon out of jail? He's been convicted.


He has years of appeals ahead of him. Even after exhausting all those (and assuming he doesn't find a friendly Trump judge to overturn), he might have a Republican President ready to pardon. Or he'll claim some medical reason why he can't serve it (like Rick Gates).

He'll never spend a day in prison. People like that have a different justice system from the rest of us.

CrimsonFox 10-21-2022 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3381322)
Trump officially subpaened by the Jan 6 committee and ordered to appear on my birthday Nov 14. Also Washington Post reports that Trump had classified documents on China and Iran at Mar-a-Lago


Just tell him it's a new par 3 hole.

Lathum 10-21-2022 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3381330)
He has years of appeals ahead of him. Even after exhausting all those (and assuming he doesn't find a friendly Trump judge to overturn), he might have a Republican President ready to pardon. Or he'll claim some medical reason why he can't serve it (like Rick Gates).

He'll never spend a day in prison. People like that have a different justice system from the rest of us.


cosigned

albionmoonlight 10-22-2022 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3381309)
Bannon gets 4 months, which I'm sure he will appeal so he won't go to jail right away,


It is Bannon, so he might get to defer his reporting to BOP until after his appeal. But for most federal defendants--even those on pre-trial release--the strong expectation is that you start serving your sentence while your appeal is pending.

And if your conviction gets overturned on appeal, do you get any credit for the time you wrongfully served. Ha Ha. LOL. No.

cuervo72 10-22-2022 08:12 PM

Early voters in Georgia face obstacles under state’s new election law | US news | The Guardian

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Jennifer Jones, a Morehouse School of Medicine PhD student, showed up to her precinct in Fulton county, Georgia, on the second day of early voting for the midterm elections. She was excited to cast her ballot for her chosen candidates in the gubernatorial and Senate races, Stacey Abrams and Senator Raphael Warnock. However, when she reached the check-in station at the polling site, she was informed that she would be unable to cast a regular ballot because her validity as a voter was challenged.

“When I handed in my ID, the poll worker said I was being challenged,” said Jones. “They said I had to complete a provisional ballot, but I wasn’t really comfortable doing that, so I didn’t get to cast my ballot that day.”

Under the state’s new Election Integrity Act, Georgia citizens can challenge a voter’s eligibility on the state’s voting rolls an unlimited number of times.

Atocep 10-22-2022 08:20 PM


In Arizona you also have armed people in tactical gear sitting just past 75 feet from drop boxes (75 feet is what the law requires) through the day and night. Then others are recording, following, and harassing people trying to drop ballots off at boxes.

Kodos 10-23-2022 08:39 AM

Just as our forefathers envisioned.

Lathum 10-23-2022 08:59 AM

I saw Trump refused to provide DNA in the E Jean Carroll case, because you know, he is totally innocent, so Mary Trump gave hers instead.

GrantDawg 10-23-2022 09:19 AM

And it begins: GA election officials investigating after suspected fake ballot discovered at early voting location – WSB-TV Channel 2 - Atlanta
Just as reference, Spalding is about an hour out of Atlanta and is a very Red county with a decent size black population in the county seat. My guess would be it was someone working the polls that slipped that in. There is at least one person (if not more) that watched over the machine as voters scan their ballots in, and someone scanning in two would stand out. I expect we will see more of this, probably in areas were the Q-people are able to get in to work the polls and try throw fake ballots everywhere they can to make the appearance of a compromised election.

Thomkal 10-24-2022 10:59 AM

AG Garland and other DOJ bigwigs having a press conference at 1:30 today to discuss a "significant national security measure". I don't know if this is going to be about people stalking/observing ballot boxes in Arizona and elsewhere or something more. For a change, so far the media doesn't know either.

albionmoonlight 10-24-2022 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3381517)
AG Garland and other DOJ bigwigs having a press conference at 1:30 today to discuss a "significant national security measure". I don't know if this is going to be about people stalking/observing ballot boxes in Arizona and elsewhere or something more. For a change, so far the media doesn't know either.


I saw something about it involving a "nation state" actor. Seems pretty par for the course now. But I'm glad that they aren't burying these things anymore on the theory that it might hurt the feelings of the party/politician that the rogue nation is trying to help.

JPhillips 10-24-2022 12:02 PM

Clarence Thomas, acting alone, ordered that Lindsey Graham doesn't have to testify in GA. This court is so corrupt.

Sweed 10-24-2022 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3381528)
Clarence Thomas, acting alone, ordered that Lindsey Graham doesn't have to testify in GA. This court is so corrupt.



Is that then the end of it? IE Can the Chief Justice do anything, IE bring it to all of the court?

NobodyHere 10-24-2022 12:26 PM

Clarence Thomas freezes order for Lindsey Graham to testify before Georgia grand jury investigating 2020 election | CNN Politics

Thomkal 10-24-2022 01:16 PM

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/just...l_twitter_abcn

Thomkal 10-24-2022 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweed (Post 3381531)
Is that then the end of it? IE Can the Chief Justice do anything, IE bring it to all of the court?



From my understanding, this does not freeze/end the case-it's a temporary stay so he can introduce it to the whole Court. Nevermind that he should have recused himself given his previous Jan 6 ruling and the activities of his wife before and after the 6th, which I'm sure he knew absoueletly nothing about...

Thomkal 10-24-2022 01:40 PM

This Twitter account, Palmer Report, says its a fake story and to ignore the headlines from the media and concentrate on the midterms so the likes of Graham don't get to be Chairman/woman of any committee that will wipe out any Jan 6 investigation.


https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/sta...95272121733120

albionmoonlight 10-24-2022 04:52 PM

It does look like a temporary stay while the Court determines whether to grant a stay pending appeal/cert.

Sort of a give us 5 minutes to decide whether you get 5 months.

cuervo72 10-24-2022 08:47 PM

I made it through about two minutes of this. Just...yeah.


sterlingice 10-25-2022 10:39 AM

It's really fascinating how phrases and reasoning patterns that were once used to demonize leftist ideologies or Democratic causes have been grafted onto false-equivalents on the right. It's amazing to see how the both-sidesism is weaponized. Using one rhetorical claim and some simple false logic, it elevates some false claims on the right while making concerns on the left seem trivial. Having an efficient media apparatus is crazily effective.

SI

Kodos 10-25-2022 10:42 AM

Especially if your viewers aren't interested in digesting info that runs contrary to their existing beliefs.

Atocep 10-25-2022 10:54 AM

The Suprme Court will hear a case that sill decide if companies can sue unions for financial losses and spoiled products as the result of a strike.

sterlingice 10-25-2022 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3381653)
The Suprme Court will hear a case that sill decide if companies can sue unions for financial losses and spoiled products as the result of a strike.


Gee, I wonder which way this corporatist court will rule. I mean, after 4 decades of getting trounced, pandemic retirements have finally given workers a modicum of leverage so that's gotta be squelched.

SI

albionmoonlight 10-25-2022 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3381603)
I made it through about two minutes of this. Just...yeah.



So the GOP spreads lies, and they are classified as a success.
And the Dems are blamed for "underestimating" it.

No thought to blaming the people spreading the lies.

Lathum 10-25-2022 12:26 PM

The thing is this clip is going around right wing media and they are chest thumping about how this reporter was owned by these people. We live in two different realities.


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