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JPhillips 11-03-2020 06:25 PM

Miami/Dade County bad enough for Dems that it might cost them FL.

Ksyrup 11-03-2020 06:25 PM

Yep. Biden way underperforming in Miami.

Atocep 11-03-2020 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309995)
Miami/Dade County bad enough for Dems that it might cost them FL.


Biden is overperforming nearly everywhere else in the state but Miami-Dade is going to be tough to make up.

kingfc22 11-03-2020 06:28 PM

Yep. Cubans sunk the Dems in Florida. Onto GA, NC, and PA.

molson 11-03-2020 06:30 PM

Such a dramatic odds shift already. 538 closed at 69% likely for Biden in Florida, NY Times already has it 84% Trump.

Of course who knows the order of reporting and I saw that needle flying all over the place last time.

RainMaker 11-03-2020 06:32 PM

Florida is toast for Biden. LOL Dems

Jas_lov 11-03-2020 06:34 PM

Are the Miami Dade numbers only election day vote?

Lathum 11-03-2020 06:38 PM

NYT has Trump 93% to win Fl.

Anyone else getting a sinking feeling?

Ben E Lou 11-03-2020 06:38 PM

NYT right now, odds of winning...


FL: trump 94%
GA: Trump 60%
NC: Biden 65%

Lathum 11-03-2020 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 3310002)
Are the Miami Dade numbers only election day vote?


CNN just said most is in pearson early voting and still waiting on some from today

molson 11-03-2020 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 3310002)
Are the Miami Dade numbers only election day vote?


Mostly in-person they just said.

Not sure if the early votes are counted today, tomorrow, next week, or if they're in a swamp somewhere.

RainMaker 11-03-2020 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3310003)
NYT has Trump 93% to win Fl.

Anyone else getting a sinking feeling?


If you felt comfortable with the Dems winning an easy election, it is on you. This is what they do.

Jas_lov 11-03-2020 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3310003)
NYT has Trump 93% to win Fl.

Anyone else getting a sinking feeling?


Yep...need NC or GA to come through. Don't want to leave this up to PA or AZ.

kingfc22 11-03-2020 06:41 PM

Moving on to NC, GA, OH, WI, MI

FL is toast.

GrantDawg 11-03-2020 06:42 PM

Jamie Dupree says that Miami-Dade has only count part of their early vote. To Dem reps are down right now which makes it look like the more blue areas have been counted.

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Ksyrup 11-03-2020 06:42 PM

So did Bernie's praise of Castro sink Dems in Miami?

Lathum 11-03-2020 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3310007)
If you felt comfortable with the Dems winning an easy election, it is on you. This is what they do.


you can have a sinking feeling while not being comfortable. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Ben E Lou 11-03-2020 06:46 PM

NYT up to ">95% Trump" in FL.

JPhillips 11-03-2020 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3310007)
If you felt comfortable with the Dems winning an easy election, it is on you. This is what they do.


Incumbents almost always win. Not sure why every time Dems lose it's because they blew an easy election.

kingfc22 11-03-2020 06:50 PM

Early OH numbers look promising for Biden. Some big gains compared to Clinton’s numbers.

JPhillips 11-03-2020 06:50 PM

All those panhandle counties are going to be heavily Trump..

RainMaker 11-03-2020 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3310011)
So did Bernie's praise of Castro sink Dems in Miami?


Not the first person who has already hedged by blaming Bernie for a Biden loss.

Edward64 11-03-2020 06:51 PM

Good thing FL has fixed their hanging chad issues.

RainMaker 11-03-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3310014)
Incumbents almost always win. Not sure why every time Dems lose it's because they blew an easy election.


Losing to Donald Trump twice would be a remarkable accomplishment. Especially after he destroyed the economy and killed a quarter of a million people.

GrantDawg 11-03-2020 06:54 PM

Biden not expected to win Ohio, but the Ohio numbers look really good so far.

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Ksyrup 11-03-2020 06:55 PM

Atlanta absentee ballots won't be reported tonight. Pipe burst at State Farm Arena.

Lathum 11-03-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3310021)
Atlanta absentee ballots won't be reported tonight. Pipe burst at State Farm Arena.


Did it damage them or something?

Ksyrup 11-03-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3310017)
Not the first person who has already hedged by blaming Bernie for a Biden loss.


I mean, I used to live down there. Castro hate is real even to this day. All GOP did was tag Biden as a radical liberal. Not that difficult a reach.

tarcone 11-03-2020 06:56 PM

TRUMP WINS INDIANA! DECLARES HE IS PRESIDENT!

Lathum 11-03-2020 06:56 PM

Times gives trump a 75% chance to win the state of Georgia

JPhillips 11-03-2020 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3310019)
Losing to Donald Trump twice would be a remarkable accomplishment. Especially after he destroyed the economy and killed a quarter of a million people.


Biden's going to have record Dem turnout. Not sure who would have done better.

And he's probably still going to win.

Ksyrup 11-03-2020 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3310022)
Did it damage them or something?


No, just delayed the count. Although one board member is saying it might be until Friday. I don't know why that long a lag.

tarcone 11-03-2020 07:01 PM

I hate this projected winner BS. Yeah I get they are heavily Dem, but, come on.

bhlloy 11-03-2020 07:01 PM

This obviously isn't the runaway that anyone thought. We're a close race in PA away from another Trump presidency.

RainMaker 11-03-2020 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3310023)
I mean, I used to live down there. Castro hate is real even to this day. All GOP did was tag Biden as a radical liberal. Not that difficult a reach.


Anyone who thinks Biden, a guy who spent his political career fighting for banks and credit cards, is a communist, is dumb as shit.

timmynausea 11-03-2020 07:02 PM

Many of the offshore books now have the election as near a tossup.

RainMaker 11-03-2020 07:04 PM

I mean it sucks he lost Florida but it seems like it was mostly the Cuban vote. Everywhere else he is making gains and the Cuban vote is not an issue in other states.

cuervo72 11-03-2020 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3310030)
Anyone who thinks Biden, a guy who spent his political career fighting for banks and credit cards, is a communist, is dumb as shit.


I know a family with Cuban roots. Good people. Formerly normal people. They are absolutely convinced Biden would turn the US into a Communist hellscape.

GrantDawg 11-03-2020 07:07 PM

Biden won Duvall county in Florida. He is the first dem to do that since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Biden did well everywhere else in Florida except Miami Dade.

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Brian Swartz 11-03-2020 07:07 PM

Tarcone, what do you think the networks should do differently? I'm not sure what you are looking at specifically, but they are projecting winners both ways.

Personally, I would bar them from reporting any results until the polls have closed everywhere, but I think it's clear why that hasn't happened.

tarcone 11-03-2020 07:07 PM

Trump has absolutely perverted this country.

Lathum 11-03-2020 07:09 PM

What is up with Virginia. I can only assume some major dem areas haven't reported yet.

tarcone 11-03-2020 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3310036)
Tarcone, what do you think the networks should do differently? I'm not sure what you are looking at specifically, but they are projecting winners both ways.

Personally, I would bar them from reporting any results until the polls have closed everywhere, but I think it's clear why that hasn't happened.


Yes. It is 0.0% for Trump and 0.0% for Biden yet they say one is the projected winner. Lets see some results first.

Ben E Lou 11-03-2020 07:11 PM

Silver on ABC has dropped to 66% Biden win.

Lathum 11-03-2020 07:11 PM

Haven't seen anything on senate races. Am I missing something?

Vegas Vic 11-03-2020 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3310038)
What is up with Virginia. I can only assume some major dem areas haven't reported yet.


Fox News called Virginia for Biden almost an hour ago.

cuervo72 11-03-2020 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3310040)
Silver on ABC has dropped to 66% Biden win.


Whee boy, here we go.

Brian Swartz 11-03-2020 07:12 PM

I'm still not worried, but this definitely doesn't look like what I expected.

Danny 11-03-2020 07:13 PM

What link do you see currently state odds?

GrantDawg 11-03-2020 07:14 PM

Steve Kornaki is taking dirty to me about Texas. Just hot stuff.

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