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sterlingice 10-31-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3309113)
I guess there was a bunch of illegals, dead people etc. voting :)

So your county population increased by (at least) 18K or approx +15% in 4 years? That's pretty good growth.


There's some population growth but also just more people are voting this election. County population is 375K

SI

wustin 10-31-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309155)
Any NC folks have a clear idea of what happened in Alamance County? The video shows the sheriff's department spraying people, ut I'm unclear what led to that.


It was a get out to vote/BLM march

https://twitter.com/JoshStein_/with_replies

refresh stein's twitter feed for updates I guess

wustin 10-31-2020 04:14 PM

dola reading some of the twitter comments, looks like it was peaceful until the police tried to seize sound equipment from the marchers and things got violent.

Jas_lov 10-31-2020 06:57 PM

DSM Register poll just came out that has Trump up 7 in Iowa, 48-41. Their final poll in 2016 also had Trump up 7 and he won by 9. Gotta hope this is just an outlier. The independents did a complete 180 in the poll from the month before. Selzer is a great pollster but it just seems strange.

sterlingice 10-31-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3309139)
First let's stop them from being able to vote on time. If they get through, next step is to get the early votes thrown out.
Texas Republicans have asked a federal judge to throw out 100,000 ballots in Harris County cast through curbside voting. They drew Judge Andrew Hanen, one of the most notoriously partisan Republican judges in the entire federal judiciary. This is alarming. https://t.co/VODOZrCoUF
— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) October 31, 2020


But I'm sure he'll find a totally originalist way of looking at this. It has nothing to do with him just being a partisan hack.

SI

whomario 10-31-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3309113)
I guess there was a bunch of illegals, dead people etc. voting :)

So your county population increased by (at least) 18K or approx +15% in 4 years? That's pretty good growth.



In 2016 only 55.7% of legal and alive voting age americans cast their vote.

Brian Swartz 10-31-2020 07:54 PM

Only, but I was actually impressed it was that many. It isn't always. My impression is that in the long-term, although it will be up this cycle, that lower levels in future decades are to be expected.

whomario 10-31-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3309139)
First let's stop them from being able to vote on time. If they get through, next step is to get the early votes thrown out.




You think they were in a hurry and quivering ? First page of the brief:



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larrymcg421 10-31-2020 11:38 PM

Anyone else got something on PredictIt?

I got shares of the following:

Biden wins Iowa (.30)
Biden wins Florida (.42)
Biden wins North Carolina (.50)
Biden wins by 10.5% or more (.19)

Radii 11-01-2020 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3309218)
Anyone else got something on PredictIt?


Not on PredictIt but through a friend got Biden at -160.

Ben E Lou 11-01-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3308855)
Just added it up. Unless I missed something, the "polling errors as bad as 2016" scenario is 335-203 Biden.

Yup.

Trump Can Still Win, But The Polls Would Have To Be Off By Way More Than In 2016 | FiveThirtyEight

If Trump does win, then we're done with polls.

sterlingice 11-01-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3309241)


If he wins through vote counts not the courts, anyways

SI

Brian Swartz 11-01-2020 10:01 AM

Trump winning wouldn't mean we'd be done with polls, it would just mean we need to make an adjustment in polling science. That's like saying we don't trust physics because quantam mechanics was a surprise or relativity turned out to be imperfectly articulated and defined.

sterlingice 11-01-2020 10:04 AM

That's a more accurate way of putting it

SI

Ksyrup 11-01-2020 10:38 AM

I was a bit concerned after seeing the Iowa poll plus the rumor that a GOP pollster was privately telling the GOP that they had Trump ahead in all swing states (McLaughlin, I think?), but then I read that if Biden takes WI, MI and NC with the rest of the relatively safe Clinton states, he gets to 275 EV. Now, that sets up an almost certain challenge by Trump since it's so close, but at least he'd be in front. Hopefully that scenario plays out plus he takes one or more of AZ, GA, PA, and FL.

I don't hold out much hope for TX. I think that ends up at best like the Beto result - great considering it's TX but still a loss, even if it was close.

EDIT to add: the good news is we'll know the outcome for NC on Tuesday unless it's too close to call. It won't be a result of waiting for ballots - the Board said they'll be able to report 97% of ballot that night.

PilotMan 11-01-2020 11:09 AM

This "holy shit" moment.


CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 12:42 PM


Click the map to create your own at 270toWin.com

larrymcg421 11-01-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 3309222)
Not on PredictIt but through a friend got Biden at -160.


I tried to get in on the Biden wins outright, but that market was capped at number of traders.

I did add: Biden wins PA (.61)

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 01:30 PM

Texas Supreme Court rejects Republican effort to toss nearly 127K votes | The Texas Tribune

ISiddiqui 11-01-2020 01:40 PM

That should help in the Federal Court case.

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Lathum 11-01-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3309260)
This "holy shit" moment.



Klepper is great. It is amazing how these people believe everything they are spoon fed.

kingfc22 11-01-2020 01:49 PM


What do you know. Disenfranchising voters was denied.

bronconick 11-01-2020 01:53 PM

Eh. Their eggs are already in the 5th circuit and Supreme Court, anyway.

Ksyrup 11-01-2020 01:54 PM

Absolutely need a quick NC call for Biden and maybe AZ or GA to seal things by Wednesday morning or we're in for a world of hurt.

Trump plans to declare premature victory if he appears ahead on election night - Axios

PilotMan 11-01-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3309289)
Klepper is great. It is amazing how these people believe everything they are spoon fed.


The Argentina comment going completely over her head after that was jaw dropping.

PilotMan 11-01-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3309293)
Absolutely need a quick NC call for Biden and maybe AZ or GA to seal things by Wednesday morning or we're in for a world of hurt.

Trump plans to declare premature victory if he appears ahead on election night - Axios


It's what authoritarian leaders do. Forment confusion, obfuscate international oversight, create a plausible alternative fact tree to keep out observers and drive partisan support. It's very successful in places that aren't the US. The fact that it's even thought possible here is simply outrageous, but you can see the map for it, and it's been obvious for a long time.

kingfc22 11-01-2020 02:13 PM

Let’s just hypothesize that this does go all to hell and somehow Trump “wins” via the courts. What’s to stop what seems a likely majority in the Senate and House for Dems from just impeaching him and booting him out in January?

Lathum 11-01-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3309297)
Let’s just hypothesize that this does go all to hell and somehow Trump “wins” via the courts. What’s to stop what seems a likely majority in the Senate and House for Dems from just impeaching him and booting him out in January?


They would need several republicans to come to their side in the senate to impeach him. Doubt that happens.

Ben E Lou 11-01-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3309062)
90/10

89 today.

larrymcg421 11-01-2020 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3309297)
Let’s just hypothesize that this does go all to hell and somehow Trump “wins” via the courts. What’s to stop what seems a likely majority in the Senate and House for Dems from just impeaching him and booting him out in January?


Dems would need 67 votes in the Senate to do that. And that just makes Pence president.

Brian Swartz 11-01-2020 02:37 PM

Back down to 89. Cue the sky is falling hand-wringing. It is encouraging to see the number of court cases about the election that are going the way of suppressing not being accepted.

And yeah, the Senate could just impeach Trump (nvm they won't have enough votes to do it), but then they'd have to impeach Pence as well which would just mean Pelosi would be president, and it would be obvious at that point what is going on. President would just refuse to leave, it would accomplish nothing.

JPhillips 11-01-2020 02:44 PM



Maybe TX can flip.

Brian Swartz 11-01-2020 02:51 PM

I hope it does. That's the kind of statement that would accelerate the necessary rethinking the Republican Party needs to do at the ground level.

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3309296)
It's what authoritarian leaders do. Forment confusion, obfuscate international oversight, create a plausible alternative fact tree to keep out observers and drive partisan support. It's very successful in places that aren't the US. The fact that it's even thought possible here is simply outrageous, but you can see the map for it, and it's been obvious for a long time.


like.........ohhhhhh i dunno......2000?

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:26 PM

did anyone see the cookie monster gif I accidently posted before? That was a mistake...albeit probably an amusing one for you

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309302)


Maybe TX can flip.



how many shades of grey does one map need...

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3309299)
89 today.


was 90 this morn

ISiddiqui 11-01-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3309309)
how many shades of grey does one map need...


I guess it's not great for color blind folks, but it means it's good for Democrats.

Atocep 11-01-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3309310)
was 90 this morn


Trump got some good state polls for Florida and North Carolina, but all were from right wing pollsters so they move the needle but not much.

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3309311)
I guess it's not great for color blind folks, but it means it's good for Democrats.


hehe I mean I'm not colorblind but there are several dark green grey shades plus one regular grey for no data. :)

I mean there ARE other colors....

JPhillips 11-01-2020 03:36 PM

Trumpers shutting down roads and bridges around NYC.

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:37 PM

georgia win will be so fucking sweet

sterlingice 11-01-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309316)
Trumpers shutting down roads and bridges around NYC.


Y'all Qaeda doing the same in Houston, too



SI

Atocep 11-01-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309316)
Trumpers shutting down roads and bridges around NYC.


I'm sure the Trump administration and right wing media are going to condemn it since they pushed Desantis to make the same thi g a felony in Florida.

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309302)


Maybe TX can flip.


anyone from texas....can you give me a play by play of this state and which are democratic heavy and/or populous cities?


are ALL the green areas cities or not? I know nothing about this state really except for austin city limits and beans

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:39 PM

oh yeah Mike Nesmith too

Atocep 11-01-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3309320)
anyone from texas....can you give me a play by play of this state and which are democratic heavy and/or populous cities?


are ALL the green areas cities or not? I know nothing about this state really except for austin city limits and beans


I haven't lived in Texas in 13 years but that looks like the high turnout areas are San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas. All of which will vote dem by large margins.

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:41 PM

and i don't understand how georgia's two senate seats can go to different parties...

Lathum 11-01-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3309316)
Trumpers shutting down roads and bridges around NYC.


Happening here also. Morons shut down the Garden State Parkway. Election day is going to be such a shitshow

CrimsonFox 11-01-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3309322)
I haven't lived in Texas in 13 years but that looks like the high turnout areas are San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas. All of which will vote dem by large margins.


Dallas is democrat??? I thought everything up north was heavy rep


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