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Lathum 10-22-2020 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3307664)
I'm not, I'm watching PHI/NYG and reading the running commentary here and at 538.

So I'm still watching crap, but a variety that is easier on my blood pressure.


I set up 2 TVs, one with the debate and one with the game. I've got a serious issue with self inflicted pain.

Edward64 10-22-2020 08:41 PM

I like that Biden called Xi and Putin "thugs".

Atocep 10-22-2020 08:41 PM

So far this is Biden's best debate overall. Trump's best debate by default.

First half the edge goes to Biden.

Lathum 10-22-2020 08:42 PM

The amount of lies Trump tells that can easily be refuted are staggering.

Edward64 10-22-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3307669)
So far this is Biden's best debate overall. Trump's best debate by default.


I agree.

cuervo72 10-22-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3307667)
I set up 2 TVs, one with the debate and one with the game. I've got a serious issue with self inflicted pain.


My tuner situation currently doesn't allow that*. I did ponder the scenario of putting the competing town halls side-by-side though -- figured the result would have been about as coherent as the first debate.


* Two TVs in the basement, one has a tuner and the other has been mostly for Netflix/Hulu/Xbox. FINALLY "upgraded" to Genies manufactured like four years ago; may look into another mini for the basement now that each tuner only requires one feed.

Lathum 10-22-2020 08:46 PM

eh...

Biden dropping the Hitler line. Not sure about that one.

Atocep 10-22-2020 08:47 PM

Not sure Kim Jong Un doesn't like Obama is a strong argument.

sterlingice 10-22-2020 08:47 PM

Don't Godwin the debate

SI

Lathum 10-22-2020 08:49 PM

So wait. Trump has been saying forever he has a replacement for Obamacare, including about 2 months ago saying he would release it in two weeks. Now he just said they want to terminate Obamacare and come up with a better plan.

Which is it?

Thomkal 10-22-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3307667)
I set up 2 TVs, one with the debate and one with the game. I've got a serious issue with self inflicted pain.


do we need to do a welfare check on you after they are over? :)

Edward64 10-22-2020 08:50 PM

Bidencare!

stevew 10-22-2020 08:50 PM

I'm nervous about PA. Wolf won 57-40 but his opponent was clearly insane. Casey won 55-42 in the Senate. I guess lots of people are pissed about Wolf's regulations statewide. Recent polls only show Biden at 49-51% or so and in the margin of error. He should be ahead by more I'd think.

Atocep 10-22-2020 08:53 PM

Trump still can't give a decent answer on Healthcare. The only thing he's able to do is say Obamacare is bad. There's no depth to his answers and you can tell he doesn't understand Healthcare any time the subject comes up.

Atocep 10-22-2020 08:54 PM

Here we go again

Atocep 10-22-2020 08:56 PM

He thinks he's running against somebody else was a great line.

Lathum 10-22-2020 08:56 PM

Trump coming off poorly continuing to talk over the moderator. Can she cut his mic if he keeps doing that?

Atocep 10-22-2020 08:57 PM

He's definitely trending downhill in the back half of this debate.

JediKooter 10-22-2020 08:57 PM

It sounds like trump's plan for health care is to have the Health Care Fairy to some how magically deliver it trump.

larrymcg421 10-22-2020 08:59 PM

Biden is getting confident and assertive here.

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:01 PM

lol @ Trump flat out saying we shouldn't raise the minimum wage to $15.

Edward64 10-22-2020 09:01 PM

I like the emotion Biden is showing.

Edward64 10-22-2020 09:03 PM

Immigration!

Let's hear plans for immigration reform.

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:03 PM

Trump did an absolutely dreadful job answering that question. Not one ounce of empathy.

Atocep 10-22-2020 09:04 PM

I've been really impressed with Biden.

CrimsonFox 10-22-2020 09:04 PM

i haven't turned it on. Having an extremely hard time coping lately.
The people that support trump....they are not human :(

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:05 PM

OMG. Trump just claimed the conditions the kids are being kept in are top notch. There are thousands of pictures of kids sleeping on the floor in tinfoil blankets.

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3307693)
i haven't turned it on. Having an extremely hard time coping lately.
The people that support trump....they are not human :(


Where in Cinci are you?

tarcone 10-22-2020 09:06 PM

I know this is a liberal board, but I think you guys are discounting how well Trump is doing.

He is really hammering at the liberals and I believe speaking to the moderates.

Not syaing Biden is doing bad, but Trump is doing well.

Edward64 10-22-2020 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3307696)
I know this is a liberal board, but I think you guys are discounting how well Trump is doing.

He is really hammering at the liberals and I believe speaking to the moderates.

Not syaing Biden is doing bad, but Trump is doing well.


Trump is definitely better than what I would have thought.

Did I hear Biden say 11M illegals with path to citizenship within 100 days?

Qwikshot 10-22-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3307696)
I know this is a liberal board, but I think you guys are discounting how well Trump is doing.

He is really hammering at the liberals and I believe speaking to the moderates.

Not syaing Biden is doing bad, but Trump is doing well.


Sorry, I’m a moderate. Donald Trump is a fucking loser.

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3307696)
I know this is a liberal board, but I think you guys are discounting how well Trump is doing.

He is really hammering at the liberals and I believe speaking to the moderates.

Not syaing Biden is doing bad, but Trump is doing well.


How is he doing well? He is flat out telling lies, and you would assume someone who is undecided would do some basic research. He also isn't answering the questions and showing zero empathy for those kids. Also a billionaire playboy saying he doesn't want to raise minimum wage to $15 is a horrific take.

Atocep 10-22-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3307696)
I know this is a liberal board, but I think you guys are discounting how well Trump is doing.

He is really hammering at the liberals and I believe speaking to the moderates.

Not syaing Biden is doing bad, but Trump is doing well.


Trump did well the first half. He's slipped over the 2nd half. His Healthcare and Minimum wage arguments are not winning arguments with moderates.

JediKooter 10-22-2020 09:08 PM

You have to admit that the bar is extremely low for trump though. So any time he isn't yelling and interrupting, will automatically make him sound better. But he's not hammering the liberals, he's just repeating the same lies over and over again, not sure that will really sway actual moderates.

CrimsonFox 10-22-2020 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3307695)
Where in Cinci are you?


northern burbs. sharonville

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3307702)
northern burbs. sharonville


No kidding. My office used to be on East Kemper Rd, not far from the mall. I lived in Madeira, loved it there.

JPhillips 10-22-2020 09:11 PM

It would be a great anomaly if this debate made much of a difference in the election. None of the debates matter much, but the last one matters the least.

Galaril 10-22-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3307697)
Trump is definitely better than what I would have thought.

Did I hear Biden say 11M illegals with path to citizenship within 100 days?


If done correctly why is that an issue?

Atocep 10-22-2020 09:12 PM

Trump just compared himself to Abe Lincoln. The debate is over.

JediKooter 10-22-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3307697)

Did I hear Biden say 11M illegals with path to citizenship within 100 days?


It sounded more like a plan would be in place within 100 days. I could have heard wrong though.

cartman 10-22-2020 09:13 PM

Biden: 500 kids don't know where there parents are

Trump: Good


That will definitely appeal to the moderates.

CrimsonFox 10-22-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3307703)
No kidding. My office used to be on East Kemper Rd, not far from the mall. I lived in Madeira, loved it there.


before covid i found a boardgaming group that played at the Madeira Inn. Holy fuck their pork chop sandwich was amazing

what mall? tri county?
that's like...not really sharonville but okay. that mall is dead as a dead thing.
not much left. Then there's forest fair mall in forest park. It was the 2nd biggest in ohio and now has like 4 stores still operable.

Edward64 10-22-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3307705)
If done correctly why is that an issue?


I've not read or heard that before. Big assumption on doing it "correctly".

Edward64 10-22-2020 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3307707)
It sounded more like a plan would be in place within 100 days. I could have heard wrong though.


Ah, okay "a plan" makes more sense.

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3307709)
before covid i found a boardgaming group that played at the Madeira Inn. Holy fuck their pork chop sandwich was amazing

what mall? tri county?
that's like...not really sharonville but okay. that mall is dead as a dead thing.
not much left. Then there's forest fair mall in forest park. It was the 2nd biggest in ohio and now has like 4 stores still operable.


I could walk to Madeira Inn. I was talking about Tri County. Used to go the the Dave and Busters. Would hit Costco for lunch, etc...Madeira was a great small town, awesome place to raise a family. We really enjoyed our time there.

JediKooter 10-22-2020 09:18 PM

If you have to say you are the least racist person in the room....you are the racist.

Lathum 10-22-2020 09:18 PM

haha, The Abraham Lincoln comment got under his skin.

tarcone 10-22-2020 09:19 PM

Im the least racism person in the room. HAHAHA

Okay, he is slipping.

Im just saying his argument against the 15 dollar minimum and repealing obamacare was targeted at moderates.

Edward64 10-22-2020 09:19 PM

Did Biden say Abraham Lincoln is most racist president?

Need close caption here

JediKooter 10-22-2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3307711)
Ah, okay "a plan" makes more sense.


That's how I interpreted it at least. I can't see it happening though with the way the Supreme Court will be configured here soon.


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