POLL: Thoughts on refs swallowing their whistles at the end of games?

[Smallville102001]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFinalEvent97

Where did you get the FTA figures from? link below has this season. Note the FTA percentage, Harden is only shooting 84% FT this season. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/pla...rows-attempted https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/pla...ee-throws-made https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/pla...row-percentage

I was not talking about % I was talking about FTA and this year it is not has bad but there have been at least 2 years where he had more FTA then any other player had even makes.

[TheFinalEvent97]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smallville102001

I was not talking about % I was talking about FTA and this year it is not has bad but there have been at least 2 years where he had more FTA then any other player had even makes.

Did you type that correctly, your saying he had more FTA than any other player had makes? That's kind of obvious unless someone shot more than 100% or had way more attempts

[Smallville102001]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFinalEvent97

Did you type that correctly, your saying he had more FTA than any other player had makes? That's kind of obvious unless someone shot more than 100% or had way more attempts

lol I did say that backwards. There where years where he had more makes then any other player had FTA. There where some years where he made like 9.5 a game or something and the most FTA by any player outside of him was like 9.3 or something. Also if you look at a guy like LJ. He has had 3 season where he had 10 or more FTA a game for a season where Harden on the other hand has 4 season if it stays above that this year and it is right now and I cant stay a younger LJ was easier to keep out of the paint then Harden or didn't drive the ball a lot. Yes now LJ shoots less foul shoots then he used to because he shoots more jump shoots then he used to but when he was younger I would say he was the hardest guy of all time to keep out of the paint and not foul yet if you look at him and Harden there highest FTA per game in a season is about the same 10.3 for LJ and 10.2 for Harden.

[Streets]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smallville102001

lol I did say that backwards. There where years where he had more makes then any other player had FTA. There where some years where he made like 9.5 a game or something and the most FTA by any player outside of him was like 9.3 or something. Also if you look at a guy like LJ. He has had 3 season where he had 10 or more FTA a game for a season where Harden on the other hand has 4 season if it stays above that this year and it is right now and I cant stay a younger LJ was easier to keep out of the paint then Harden or didn't drive the ball a lot. Yes now LJ shoots less foul shoots then he used to because he shoots more jump shoots then he used to but when he was younger I would say he was the hardest guy of all time to keep out of the paint and not foul yet if you look at him and Harden there highest FTA per game in a season is about the same 10.3 for LJ and 10.2 for Harden.

I would argue a prime LeBron is/was harder to stop than Harden but Bron doesn't seek out contact in the same way Harden does. What I mean is Bron doesn't try to bait you into a foul and not care if he makes the shot or not every other play like Harden. He hasn't built his game around trying to get to the line. Now he does get to the the line a lot incidentally because he's a tough cover and sometimes all you can do is foul him but that's not that same as seeking contact.

But I digress. I can't convince you that there may be reasons to explain Harden's insane FT numbers other than "superstar treatment" (minutes played, driving to the rim, seeking contact, hard to stop, shoots a high clip, blah blah) so I have to ask you, why James? Why is he the ONLY player who gets superstar calls. Is it because the Houston Rockets are America's team? Because James is so universally loved by fans of the game? If the numbers aren't based on contact created on the court, then why haven't owners and other players/coaches expressed outrage over this blatant favoritism. All I hear opponents say is what a tough cover he is and how he's so good at creating contact and making people pay for reaching/swiping. I feel if there's this blatant a bias people in the NBA (not is fans) would be in an uproar, certainly not praising him and he CERTAINLY would not be the inaugural players choice for the MVP of the league.