Anybody still play Total Pro Football?

[jbmagic]

Anybody still play Total Pro Football?

i see Arlie did a new patch for it. version 1.42 4/27/05

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/in...howtopic=70415

Total Pro Football - version 1.42. This patch includes the following updates:

1. Coach salary editing.
2. Improved engine in regards to interceptions, returns and player returns for TDs.
3. CPU rosters now adhere to the 7-player maximum for the inactive roster.
4. Better CPU roster management in regards to total players and filling injured spots during the season.
5. Playing time shouldn't hurt your team's Morale on BYE weeks.
6. Multiplayer reporting issue with incorrect slashes.
7. Some bug fixes that leagues encountered.

[Northwood_DK]

I’m sorry to say that I got the game but have never played a complete season.
That was money out the window.

[Cuckoo]

I bought it, and although I really enjoyed the draft, I couldn't really get into the rest of it and didn't play it that long. Maybe I'll fire it up again with the new patch.

[jbmagic]

one thing that so confusing in this game, is the gameplanning.

[Terps]

I've never played the game other than using it for multiplayer leagues. Still in one.

[Abe Sargent]

I just play online to. And I'm just in one league there.

-Anxiety

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I just play online to. And I'm just in one league there.

-Anxiety

any issues when playing online with TPF?

thanks

[markprior22]

I play it all the time. About 22 seasons into a career (I play out all my games and play alot of other stuff too).

I don't find gameplanning anymore confusing than any other football game. The thing is, in football, there are so many different situations (with score, field position, down & distance, quarter, etc) that if you are going to set up the AI for play calling, it inherently has to be pretty in depth.

[yabanci]

Originally Posted by Northwood_DK

I’m sorry to say that I got the game but have never played a complete season.
That was money out the window.

I'm sorry to say that I got the game but never played a complete season either. Luckily I returned it for a refund and the money came back through the window and into my pocket.

[Raiders Army]

Bought it, played .7 seasons with it, and hoped there would be a TPF 2.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by yabanci

I'm sorry to say that I got the game but never played a complete season either. Luckily I returned it for a refund and the money came back through the window and into my pocket.

Ditto.

[Wasabiak]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Ditto.

Same here. Although, funny.......Just yesterday I downloaded the demo again, and I was pleasantly surprised that I managed to start the game and didn't get any RTE's. Serious..........

[Passacaglia]

RTE's?

[yabanci]

Run Time Errors. The game was plagued with them.

[jbmagic]

hey guys

i been playing this game since the new patch came out. and its a lot better than when TPF first came out.

any of you that still have the game, and quit playing after a few games like i did when the game came out, should try the game again with the latest version.

since the game came out there been several patches done and a new one just a few days ago. i think Arlie did a pretty good job with it.

its not a FOF replacement, but if your looking for another football sim again, than install the full version 1.42 and give it a try again. you will be surprise how much better it is.

[maximus]

After patch 1.42 I am getting CTD now.

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[markprior22]

I have 1.42 and haven't encountered any rte's or ctd's. There were alot of rte's when the game first came out (thank you Mr. Stallings) but those haven't been an issue for me in a long, long time.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by markprior22

I have 1.42 and haven't encountered any rte's or ctd's. There were alot of rte's when the game first came out (thank you Mr. Stallings) but those haven't been an issue for me in a long, long time.

I've started playing it again and enjoying it so far - not sure how quickly I'll get bored of it. I still don't like the gameplan stuff at all.

But I quoted this because I did have one RTE while playing - during a contract negotiation in the offseason. Luckily, I save frequently.

[Ben E Lou]

Anyone else seeing this? I decided to give it another shot. Downloaded 1.42, ran a bunch of seasons while I was away. Stopped it midseason in 2022, and every team has 62 or more players on their active roster, some as many as 80. Here's a screenie of their total players on the roster. Every team has exactly 7 inactive, and no more than 3 on IR, so you can see how many are active from this. Is this unique to long-term sims, or is it a problem with all sims?

[Ben E Lou]

Just re-started. By midseason of the 2nd year in, every team has 57 or more players active, 7 inactive, 0 on practice squad. Most teams have 60+ players active.

[Arles]

SD, can you send me your save game to [email protected]. I can then check out what's going on and get it cleaned up.

[jbmagic]

Arles thanks for supporting the Game and your looking into fixing the issues and bugs still on it.


this game is so much better, then when it first came out. i am glad i install 1.42 version so far.

[Arles]

Actually, I think SD is right in that it is something that occurs over time for long-term solo players. I will get a fix up tonight on the issue and let everyone know.

Arlie

[Arles]

OK, found the issue. When I was testing the patch, I was using mostly Multiplayer save games as those were the ones that many of the fixes were geared. Because most had all human GMs, I set them to be CPU-run and used that to test the roster AI. Well, the problem was that there was a slight difference between a true CPU team and one owned by a human but set to CPU. I fixed that difference and the roster issues have now gone away. I am going to do some additional true single player testing just to be 100% and update the patch a little later tonight.

[jbmagic]

thanks Arles


quick question

for my head coach it shows a preferred approach: West coast

for my offensive coor. its shows preferred offense: SmashBall

what gameplan shoudl i choose west coast or smashball to get the bonus for using that offense?

and if i decided to use a custom offense and pick the plays i want, will i get any bonus on offense?

thanks

[maximus]

Originally Posted by maximus

After patch 1.42 I am getting CTD now.

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[jbmagic]

maximus

email him the league file and explain what cause it. maybe he can fix it and add it to the next patch. worth a shot.

[Arles]

Maximus, try version 1.43. It should fix any issues you have. I would also recommend everyone download it as well. It fixes the issue SD pointed out as well as a couple other issues from a while back that people sent me emails on:

http://66.193.175.87/redist/tpf_patch_143.exe

It's a smaller update file than normal (about 13 MB)

[Icy]

I bought the game just on the release day, played half of a season and left it untouched for a while. Played it again after some patches but never for more than a few games then left it again, mainly becuase bugs and the confussing gameplaning. How fun is it now? does gameplaning work? do they play as you tell them? any mayor issues with AI to play it single? I'm thinking on starting a new dynasty and could try this insted of fof2k4 as i guess that the future college game will alllow us to import the college players to the draft.
Also, if i download the full game now again, is it updated to 1.43 already? What abour rosters? where can i find the one more up to date?

[Ben E Lou]

RTE 91 on the owners' screen...

[Ben E Lou]

Duplicated it:

Conference Center-->View Owners

The little slider thing that moves the view of the spreadsheet up and down isn't all the way at the top by default. When I tried to move it up and see the other Owners higher up on the screen, I got the RTE.

[Ben E Lou]

OK. Easily avoidable. More of an interface glitch than anything else. It turns out that even though the slider isn't all the way at the top, you are viewing the first owner in the original screen.

[QuikSand]

I'm a half hour into my first TPF experience. Right now I'm into the initial dispersal draft, am four rounds deep, and am pulling my hair out because it's taking about ten minutes between my pairs of picks in the snake-style draft. There is a button for "draft speed," but it doesn't do anything. Nice. All my picks are listed as being for another city/team on the "last five" screen -- that's nice, too.

I'm also seeing guys who are rated very highly, my scout seems to say they are top-grade players -- far better than anyone else out there at their positions -- and the scout snippets say things like "he'd be better as a backup." Does not compute.

So far... well, so far.

[Arles]

The draft speed button is a slider and if you drag it to the right it should speed up the time between picks considerably. Also, if you choose the "draft report" view, the round will go by extremely fast with the slider to the right.

The last 5 screen should correspond to the team you selected (the team in the lower part of the screen). Also, the scout comments correspond to how the player will play right now - so it's not uncommon to see a guy rathed 2.0/5.0 given the comments "he'd be better as a backup". But, again, that's true for this season.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Arles

The draft speed button is a slider and if you drag it to the right it should speed up the time between picks considerably. Also, if you choose the "draft report" view, the round will go by extremely fast with the slider to the right.

The last 5 screen should correspond to the team you selected (the team in the lower part of the screen). Also, the scout comments correspond to how the player will play right now - so it's not uncommon to see a guy rathed 2.0/5.0 given the comments "he'd be better as a backup". But, again, that's true for this season.

Arles its a bug for 1.43 someone else reported it on the .400 forum

"just upgraded to 1.43 (from 1.42), and my sliders don't work; i.e., to increase salary offers, draft speed, etc. It just shows up as a drop-down menu arrow. It does 'work', if I keep clicking on it for draft speed, it does speed it up. Of course, I can't then slow it down (not that I'd want to)."

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/in...howtopic=70498

[QuikSand]

The "click on the slider" backdoor does seem to work for me, to a point. When I click it, the team on the clock seems to make its pick... so I can get through a round in one minute and 30 clicks, rather than fve minutes or so and interminable waiting.

Thanks for the responses.




edit: after many clicks on the "draft speed" slider, my draft is now moving quickly. Thanks again.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Arles its a bug for 1.43 someone else reported it on the .400 forum

"just upgraded to 1.43 (from 1.42), and my sliders don't work; i.e., to increase salary offers, draft speed, etc. It just shows up as a drop-down menu arrow. It does 'work', if I keep clicking on it for draft speed, it does speed it up. Of course, I can't then slow it down (not that I'd want to)."

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/in...howtopic=70498

Sounds like your slider install got corrupted. You may need to reinstall the game.

[QuikSand]

I didn't even know I had one of those. :shivers:

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Arles

Sounds like your slider install got corrupted. You may need to reinstall the game.

Arles i unistall game again

and did a fresh install of the full version 1.43 and did a restart too.

and the sliders is corrupt. there is no sliders now to slide for draft and salary offers.

it was fine for 1.42

that why quiksand had to click on it so many times

[Arles]

OK, I see it as well (downloaded it at work). I will check out the project when I get home later tonight. My guess is the control somehow got corrupted. That certainly would explain Quicksand's confusion on it.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

I didn't even know I had one of those. :shivers:

It's a custom control housed in the EXE - there are no external ocx or dlls for the slider.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Arles

It's a custom control housed in the EXE - there are no external ocx or dlls for the slider.

I love it when you talk dirty, Arlie.

[Arles]

OK, this slider issue is now fixed in the version 1.43 on the update page at the site. Redownload the 13 MB patch and install it over your current version.

[Adamski47]

NFLsim, best TPF league on the net HANDS DOWN has an opening with Tampa Bay. Contact me asap b/c the guys on the waiting list are nowhere to be found. You could slip right in.

We're in Week 9 of the 2006 season. Tampa Bay had the 1st pick in the 2006 Draft and selected QB Michael Kelley. This is his rookie season and he's quite good.

[Emiliano]

I'm giving it another shot too. I bought this thing when it came out and returned it 3 days later. I remember all the hype... The look was great, but the game was really frustrating to play. I played like 3 seasons and then I gave up. Hope it's better now. I'd really like a TPF2, with the ability to import rookies from Bowl Bound...

[cody8200]

After I'm done with finals Im going to start playing again too. When it first came out I probably played 20 seasons straight but I havent played for a while. Its cool to be releasing a patch well over a year since the game came out. Thanks arlie!

[jbmagic]

check out a game you can view live. this game seems like you can broadcast the game if you want.

Backyard Bowl IV:

http://tpf.hanson-family.ws/BFLTV/bfl_tv.php

Use Internet Exployer for better view

[jbmagic]

TPF 1.43 Individual season record stats for Int too high for a season


last 15 years in the NFL, the highest int per season player leader got was 8,8,9,9,9,9,9,9,7,9,10,8,9,9,9

i sim 15 years on tpf 1.43 solo play, fictional players and look at league season records for INT and the top 10 shows players got this many INT in one season: 18,18,17,17,16,15,14,14,14,14


league average stats per game for each season is ok for interceptions. its about 2.61 int per game average.

the text file for league average stats can be found in your league folder under stats.

so league average stats looks pretty good and consistent per season.
it just seems like individual players season record stats can be high in some category like INT was.

Might want to check on the others.

thanks

[jbmagic]

the total pro football text file for league average stats can be found in your league folder under stats. it list them by year you complete a season.

here an example of it. i wish FOF had this.

All Stats are per game

Total League Stats
Total Points, 41.80859375
Total Yards, 649.03125
Total Plays, 137.10546875
Total Yards Per Play, 4.73381008005926
First Downs (Pass), 20.6984375
First Downs (Run), 12.871875
First Downs (Pen), 3.61953125
Third Down Conv, 10.1484375
Third Down Att, 27.49609375
Third Down %, 0.369086517971303
Fourth Down Conv, 0.7015625
Fourth Down Att, 1.5328125
Fourth Down %, 0.435028248587571
Penalties, 13.46875
Penalty Yards, 109.984375

League Passing Stats
Attempts, 66.828125
Completions, 38.578125
%, 0.577273790039747
YPA, 6.48421790974982
Yards, 433.328125
TDs, 2.503125
INTs, 2.47578125
Sacks, 4.6875

League Rushing Stats
Rushes, 56.58984375
Yards, 239.921875
YPA, 4.23966314626907
TDs, 1.73359375
Fumbles, 2.6234375
Fumbles Lost, 1.45234375

League Return Stats
Kick Returns, 9.03515625
Kick Return Yardage, 204.76171875
Kick Return Ave, 22.662775616083
Kick Return TDs, 0.0703125
Punt Returns, 4.421875
Punt Return Yardage, 51.86328125
Punt Return Ave, 11.7287985865724
Punt Return TDs, 0.0546875

FG Stats
FG Converted, 2.94140625
FG Attempts, 3.80859375
FG %, 0.772307692307692
XP converted, 3.94140625
XP attempted, 4.046875
XP %, 0.973938223938224

Punting Stats
Punts, 10.80859375
Punt Yards, 462.421875
Punt Ave, 42.782797253343
Net Punting Yards, 388.68359375
Net Ave, 35.9606071557644

Defense Stats
Defense TDs, 29

[Icy]

Have this kind of problems been fixed?

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/in...howtopic=68916
http://www.400softwarestudios.com/in...howtopic=70182
http://www.400softwarestudios.com/in...howtopic=66931

Because that is what turned me off the game, if some actions seems to not affect the game at all, i can't trust that other features are affecting it so why bother with setting up stuff that is not going to change anything? and at the end, why to play it? That was the reason for never playing more than a season. I didn't return the game just because i wanted to support 400ss guys as i do with all text sims developers. Luckily they learned the lesson and greydog is releasing awesome games so far like TPB.