Quit feeding stray animals

[Edward64]

Was enjoying my cup of coffee and reading time magazine when I saw this quote in the Verbatim section. Almost spilled my coffee. Googled and found this happened recently and he has since apologized.

The Andre Bauer solution: Starve the poor, they’ll stop breeding | Jay Bookman
Andre Bauer regrets ‘animals’ remark - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

Bauer – one of the frontrunners in the state’s GOP gubernatorial primary – said during a town hall event focused on reducing the number of South Carolinians on government assistance that “my grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed.”

“You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply,” he said.

“They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that.”

– Andre Bauer, lieutenant governor of South Carolina
and candidate for S.C. governor

Not the analogy that I would have used.

[BYU 14]

He certainly got right to the point, good luck back in the corporate world Andre.

[flere-imsaho]

Someone's read (and misunderstood) their Jonathan Swift.

[Greyroofoo]

He has my vote

[illinifan999]

My speech teacher once told us that the solution to world hunger is to kill all the hungry people. Pretty sure he was joking though.

[JPhillips]

Jesus: For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

Andre: Hold on. What if we starve all the poor?

Jesus: That's not really what I'm talking about, Andre.

[molson]

I don't want anybody to starve but this ultimately a big issue for humanity.

Almost 7 billion people in the world now, with the fastest population growth in places least able to support such a population. We're taxing the resources of the earth.

We're animals, but we don't have the benefit of the traditional evolutionary checks on population growth that every species has, because we value life more.

I have no idea what the answer is. Obviously, the policies of the Catholic Church and the U.S. government involving birth control in developing nations is ridiculous. If I was king of world, I'd offer a financial incentive for anyone willing to get sterilized. I read about the suffering and destruction in Haiti but in the back of my mind all I can think is - why the fuck are there 9 million people there anyway? What the hell sense does that make? I understand why we focus our collective energy on preserving life but - it's going to be disaster for everyone unless we come up with more difficult, and creative ways of limiting human suffering yet containing world population growth.

[Lathum]

If I was king of the world I'm not sure I would offer a financial reward for sterilization but I would require a license to breed.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by molson

I have no idea what the answer is. Obviously, the policies of the Catholic Church and the U.S. government involving birth control in developing nations is ridiculous. If I was king of world, I'd offer a financial incentive for anyone willing to get sterilized. I read about the suffering and destruction in Haiti but in the back of my mind all I can think is - why the fuck are there 9 million people there anyway? What the hell sense does that make? I understand why we focus our collective energy on preserving life but - it's going to be disaster for everyone unless we come up with more difficult, and creative ways of limiting human suffering yet containing world population growth.

Well, China has an interesting answer to it. I'm don't think it's the right answer, but it's an interesting one. It would never fly in many parts of the world for ethical reasons, but it's worth looking at and seeing if you can come up with a new way to end at a similar result while eliminating the side effects (mass infanticide, male preference, etc).

And then lets look at India- they're cranking out 150M kids every 10 years at the rate they're going and they're poorer and less equipped to handle the problems than China...

SI

[Warhammer]

The big issue facing us in the future is not food production, it is water. We have more food than we know what to do with, heck look at the amount of corn we use for ethanol alone. Change that over to a food crop and that could feed a lot of people. Only 1% of all land set aside for corn is for our consumption. Change that ratio, and you can feed a lot of people.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

The big issue facing us in the future is not food production, it is water. We have more food than we know what to do with, heck look at the amount of corn we use for ethanol alone. Change that over to a food crop and that could feed a lot of people. Only 1% of all land set aside for corn is for our consumption. Change that ratio, and you can feed a lot of people.

I would think efforts to setup more efficient desalination techniques would be at the top of our list these days.

[RainMaker]

While the guys words are poor and low brow, there is something to be said about people who can't afford having kids having a lot of kids. Then wanting everyone else to pay for them.

[Desnudo]

Not put well, but he does have a point about enabling behaviour...

[Sgran]

There's a shred of truth in there, but it's just such a bad example of victimizing the victims. Like half of Haiti wouldn't move to the US in a heartbeat (and they just might try soon). The old Sam Kennison act just isn't that funny anymore, if it ever was (no, Ethiopia wasn't always a wasteland). The world has a lot of problems, and poor people aren't saints, but arguing that a tiny isolated island should be allowed to starve to death after a major natural disaster because they somehow chose to live in a shanty town should be met with the proper amount of derision.

[DaddyTorgo]

if i've always been in favor of a malthusian die-off.

i think the world would be a much better place with say ~2 billion people in it (and the subsequent reduction in industry, etc) than it is now.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

The big issue facing us in the future is not food production, it is water. We have more food than we know what to do with, heck look at the amount of corn we use for ethanol alone. Change that over to a food crop and that could feed a lot of people. Only 1% of all land set aside for corn is for our consumption. Change that ratio, and you can feed a lot of people.

Corn is the crop that is ruining the earth.

[Glengoyne]

I know that pro-creation is the first thing I want after I've had a sandwich. Then again it isn't just sandwiches that bring on that urge.

While I have an inkling of sympathy for the point I think he was trying to make..Wow! What a way to step in it.

[Pyser]

daily show reported on this last week or so. worth finding (i cant find link right now, sorry)

[Radii]

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[JPhillips]

I didn't realize this was about reduced or free school lunches for children.

Fuck you Andre.

[Sgran]

Originally Posted by Sgran

There's a shred of truth in there, but it's just such a bad example of victimizing the victims. Like half of Haiti wouldn't move to the US in a heartbeat (and they just might try soon). The old Sam Kennison act just isn't that funny anymore, if it ever was (no, Ethiopia wasn't always a wasteland). The world has a lot of problems, and poor people aren't saints, but arguing that a tiny isolated island should be allowed to starve to death after a major natural disaster because they somehow chose to live in a shanty town should be met with the proper amount of derision.

Oops. I thought this was the paul shirley thread.

[Greyroofoo]