Overrated NFL Players

judicial clerk · 10-21-2003, 08:06 PM

Who are the most overrated player in the NFL, past or present. Right now I might go with Charles Woodsen. I really want him to be good but my man consistently gets beat by the top receivers in the league. I think He is a good hitter and is playing out of position. he should be moved to free safety. Every time I watch him two words go through my mind: Jason Sehorn.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-21-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by judicial clerk
Who are the most overrated player in the NFL, past or present.

Donovan McNabb

Aesyrqwe · 10-21-2003, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by JonInMiddleGA
Donovan McNabb

Damn you beat me to it..

-Aes-

Primal · 10-21-2003, 08:11 PM

Keyshawn by a long shot.

Samdari · 10-21-2003, 08:17 PM

Travis Henry.

The_herd · 10-21-2003, 08:17 PM

Mike Alstott

ISiddiqui · 10-21-2003, 08:30 PM

Jeremy Shockey

Draft Dodger · 10-21-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by judicial clerk
Who are the most overrated player in the NFL, past or present. Right now I might go with Charles Woodsen. I really want him to be good but my man consistently gets beat by the top receivers in the league. I think He is a good hitter and is playing out of position. he should be moved to free safety. Every time I watch him two words go through my mind: Jason Sehorn.

funny, when I clicked on this thread, the words "Jason Sehorn" were in my mind.

mtaystl03 · 10-21-2003, 08:39 PM

I second Mike Allstot

ISiddiqui · 10-21-2003, 08:40 PM

Keyshawn has to be seconded as well, I think.

Aylmar · 10-21-2003, 08:48 PM

Warren Sapp

Celeval · 10-21-2003, 08:49 PM

Ray Buchanan

kurtism · 10-21-2003, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Celeval
Ray Buchanan

Is "Big Play Ray" overrated now, or just finished? (Or are you referring to him being overrated in his "prime"?)

maximus · 10-21-2003, 08:54 PM

Ryan Leif.

J/k

As much as this is gonna hurt me and as much as I am a Bears fan (*sigh*) I have to say Brian Urlacher. My reasoning;

since he has signed his big contract he really hasn't done well. I also know that DC Greg Blache is not making correct calls most of the time. Urlacher is good but he sure isn't as good as the media says he is. Does he have the potential to be great? Yes, I think so but he isn't there right now. I am a big Urlacher fan. I love the guy. He's fast, gets to the ball but he has issues sheading blocks and he doesn't hit hard enough. Bear fans please don't flame me for this because like you, I love my Bears but Urlacher *at this point* is overated.

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spelling on "Leifs" name

cthomer5000 · 10-21-2003, 08:55 PM

Jason Sehorn was genuinely excellent for about a 2 year period. He's never been the same since the knee injury, and the Giants were insane for giving him that huge contract after the injury.

Warren Sapp is currently incredibly overrated.

Keyshawn has never been one of the best receivers in the league. He's always been second tier, always will be.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 10-21-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by maximus
Ryan Leif. J/k

As much as this is gonna hurt me and as much as I am a Bears fan (*sigh*) I have to say Brian Urlacher. My reasoning;

since he has signed his big contract he really hasn't done well. I also know that DC Greg Blache is not making correct calls most of the time. Urlacher is good but he sure isn't as good as the media says he is. Does he have the potential to be great? Yes, I think so but he isn't there right now. I am a big Urlacher fan. I love the guy. He's fast, gets to the ball but he has issues sheading blocks and he doesn't hit hard enough. Bear fans please don't flame me for this because like you, I love my Bears but Urlacher *at this point* is overated.

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spelling on "Leifs" name

As a fellow bear fan, it pains me to agree with you. Urlacher has regressed big time.

The_herd · 10-21-2003, 09:27 PM

I think he's worrying more about becoming next in line for the Hilton fortune.

bbor · 10-21-2003, 09:39 PM

Kordell Stewert

maximus · 10-21-2003, 09:40 PM

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Kordell Stewert

I don't even think he is even rated, let alone being "overrated".

samifan24 · 10-21-2003, 09:42 PM

I second Jeremy Shockey.

JPhillips · 10-21-2003, 09:43 PM

Kurt Warner anyone?

sony · 10-21-2003, 09:46 PM

Michael Strahan

Philliesfan980 · 10-21-2003, 09:53 PM

Jeff Garcia

ISiddiqui · 10-21-2003, 10:08 PM

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Kurt Warner anyone?

NOW, yes. But for a 3 year period, Warner lived up to the hype.

Front Office Midget · 10-21-2003, 10:09 PM

I don't know how he's rated around the league, but here in Wisconsin a lot of people think Mike McKenzie is a top-notch CB, but he's really not.

cthomer5000 · 10-21-2003, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by samifan24
I second Jeremy Shockey.

He is clearly the best tight end in the league... how is he overrated exactly?

TurnerONU22 · 10-21-2003, 10:16 PM

From my Steelers, I'd have to say OLB Jason Gildon. Yeah, he might get double-digit sacks every year and is supposedly almost Pro-Bowl calibur, but he plays VERY VERY poor pass defense and just seems to tackle poorly as well. I still don't see why the Steelers have let go a few other 'backers, but have proceeded to keep him around. With the salary cap getting very tight in the next couple years, I hope he's the first to go

ISiddiqui · 10-21-2003, 10:21 PM

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He is clearly the best tight end in the league.

As long as we are not counting Tony Gonzalez and Todd Heap, right?

And he most definetly is overrated. He was billed as the second coming last year and would revolutionize the game... um.. no.

TroyF · 10-21-2003, 10:32 PM

Urlacher is having a horrible year. He's just not playing good football now. That said, when he has DT's that can let him run free, he's one of the best there is. The Bears are not putting him in a position to succeed and to play to his strengths. You could take any LB in the league and make him overrated.

As for overrated right now, here are some names that come to the top of the list for me:

Dan Morgan - He can't stay healthy. Even when he does, he doesn't make enough plays.
Mike Alstott - The worst 6-time pro bowler in the history of the game.
Orlando Pace - 3 consecutive poor seasons. Playing better this year. Last year he was horrible.
Vonnie Holiday - The guy lives off of one game a year. He has 10 sacks in his last 17 games. 8 of them have came in two games. This year, after game one, he has a total of 6 tackles and 1 sack in 6 games.
Keyshon Johnson - Do I really need to write anything here?

TroyF

tucker342 · 10-21-2003, 10:39 PM

Keyshawn Johnson and Warren Sapp come to mind

vtbub · 10-21-2003, 10:51 PM

I'd say Keyshwan now.

Deion Sanders comes to mind as well.

ISiddiqui · 10-21-2003, 10:58 PM

Deion was overrated, but he genuinally was the best cover CB in the league. I wonder if we should make a distinction for good players who are overrated and mediocre players who are overrated (and are thought of as good players).

revrew · 10-21-2003, 11:04 PM

Urlacher, I submit, is playing badly this year because he's had to go back to making all the plays himself (at least mentally). Without anyone else shedding blockers or stopping the offense, Urlacher is overpursuing, using too much speed and not enough positioning. Two years ago, if Urlacher missed on a play, someone would back him up. Now, it's first and 10 and do it again. He's also getting more blockers than ever before because the other teams are too easily pancaking the guys in front of him and then driving into the linebacker corps.

I quadruple Jeremy Shockey. Best TE in the league?? Best WR wannabe playing the TE spot. I'd still take the elderly Shannon Sharpe over Shockey, at least for this season.

I'd also nominate Jerry Rice. At this point, watching how second-rate CBs manhandle him, he's about a fifth-stringer.

And, I'll nominate Priest Holmes. Oh, blast me if you will, but I suggest the KC O-line is horrendously underrated (as in, let's put the line up with the best lines in the last 2 decades), and that Priest isn't as close to god-dom as he is said to be. Top 10 in the league, maybe top 5, but I could name several others I'd rather have.

bbor · 10-21-2003, 11:06 PM

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Jeff Garcia

Really???

GrantDawg · 10-21-2003, 11:51 PM

Keith Brooking.

MikeVic · 10-21-2003, 11:53 PM

Jon Kitna

samifan24 · 10-21-2003, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by cthomer5000
He is clearly the best tight end in the league... how is he overrated exactly?

Well I think Shockey is an arrogant, cockey guy who has yet to live up to his own personal PR machine. Of course I must admit that I'm an Eagles fan so that might have something to do with it.

Honestly though, I think Shockey is overrated. That's not to say that he isn't a good TE because he is, I will admit that. I just think that he talks a lot and he doesn't walk the walk to merit his own hype machine.

I believe that Tony Gonzalez is the best TE in the league with Todd Heap right behind.

Edit- Yeah, what ISiddiqui said.

Tasan · 10-22-2003, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by MikeVic
Jon Kitna

To paraphrase an earlier poster concerning Stewert, don't they have to be RATED first?

sterlingice · 10-22-2003, 12:33 AM

Troy and I are thrown Gonzalez and Shockey back and forth in this thread, currently so I just figured I should link them up

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MikeVic · 10-22-2003, 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Tasan
To paraphrase an earlier poster concerning Stewert, don't they have to be RATED first?

Wasn't he the NFL Europe MVP once or something? I had HUGE expectations for this guy. Thought him and Galloway would be the next Montana/Rice. But he let me down.

...

nononono. Nothing I just said is true.

Havok · 10-22-2003, 01:53 AM

I'd go with McNabb first... Rushy hit the nail on the head. That guy has so many freaking endorsments its unbelieveable... and for what??? being a slightly above average QB for a few seasons?? pfft!!! gimmie a break....

I also agree with Urlacher this season.... he ain't done shit. I've watched 2 Bears games this season (for some reason) and he didn't show me shit.

I don't on the other hand, thing Shockey is overrated.... and if he is, its just a little bit. He's a top 3 Tight end in the NFL. The freaking Eagles put a cornerback on him last sunday. You know your a badass tight end when teams stick CB's on ya. I would also like to state that i hate the guy and i think he's a dick. Im by no means a Shocky fan, but i give credit where credit is due.

Glengoyne · 10-22-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by ISiddiqui
NOW, yes. But for a 3 year period, Warner lived up to the hype.

Hell in his one game this year, this guy suffered a concussion in the first quarter, and still threw for 350 yards. He was moving half speed, and he almost overcame the six fumbles. Bulger has been good, Warner was great before the injuries.

jshipman2 · 10-22-2003, 03:02 AM

Ricky Williams (of the Dolphins, not the Colts)

Darkiller · 10-22-2003, 03:08 AM

Let's not mix up "overrated" and "under-achiever".

Urlacher is an underachiever, this year. Same for Owens (until last week-end's game) and it goes as well for Keyshawh who CLEARLY has the ability, but he's not playing up to his talent.

To me, the #1 "overrated" player is Mike Alstott.
Followed by Mike Vick.

Sure Vick is very talented, but as of now, hasn't won enough (of course he hasn't done enough yet, my gosh, has only PLAYED one full year as a starter!) but the writers seem to already prepare a bronze in Canton. This is too much. Let the guy have a career.
So Vick is overrated at this point.

maximus · 10-22-2003, 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by revrew
Urlacher, I submit, is playing badly this year because he's had to go back to making all the plays himself (at least mentally). Without anyone else shedding blockers or stopping the offense, Urlacher is overpursuing, using too much speed and not enough positioning. Two years ago, if Urlacher missed on a play, someone would back him up. Now, it's first and 10 and do it again. He's also getting more blockers than ever before because the other teams are too easily pancaking the guys in front of him and then driving into the linebacker corps.

Good point

Samdari · 10-22-2003, 06:03 AM

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Originally posted by Glengoyne
Hell in his one game this year, this guy suffered a concussion in the first quarter, and still threw for 350 yards. He was moving half speed, and he almost overcame the six fumbles. Bulger has been good, Warner was great before the injuries.

It's pretty much known now that Kurt never had a concussion in that game. That story was "invented" by Martz to allow Warner to save face in his benching. Those 350 yards are the best illustration of why passing yards is a meaningless stat - that game was a primer for bad NFL QB play. I am tired of debating how good Warner was during the 3 years, but right now, he flat out stinks.

cthomer5000 · 10-22-2003, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by ISiddiqui
As long as we are not counting Tony Gonzalez and Todd Heap, right?

And he most definetly is overrated. He was billed as the second coming last year and would revolutionize the game... um.. no.

Gonzalez is a receiver and nothing more. He doesn't have nearly the blocking ability that Shockey has. Heap (from what I've seen) is a so-so blocker and excellent receiver.

Looking at the pure impact Shockey had on his team last year, I'm quite comfortable in saying he is the best tight end in the league. Of the 3, he most frequently completely takes over a game.

EagleFan · 10-22-2003, 06:33 AM

Shockey is also the one that will blow up the fastest with a key drop or fumble so that pushes him right back below the other two.

McNabb I would put in the underachieving pile. Something hasn't been right since he returned from his injury. Prior to that he was living up to his reputation. This is just my opinion but I think that one of his main problems is that he gets so concerned with building up his body during the offseason that he doesn;t concentrate enough on his quarterbacking skills. I keep hearing about these intense "would kill a normal man" type workouts that he puts himself through to bulk up during the offseason but I never hear about him practicing throwing a post, or anything remotely related to being a quarterback.

Vick is my choice for over-rated. He just flat out hasn't done it enough to earn the status that he is given. I think he could achieve that status, just that he hasn't yet.

DeToxRox · 10-22-2003, 02:09 PM

Shockey is good but very overrated.

He redinfied the TE position by making an offense around him?

Look at Baltimore, all their passing O goes through the leauges best Tight End, Todd Heap.

He is by far the best, because he can do it all, unlike a Shockey or Gonzalez.

scooper · 10-22-2003, 02:11 PM

I nominate Corey F-ing Pickens, I mean Dillon.

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maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	Ryan Leif. J/k As much as this is gonna hurt me and as much as I am a Bears fan (sigh) I have to say Brian Urlacher. My reasoning; since he has signed his big contract he really hasn't done well. I also know that DC Greg Blache is not making correct calls most of the time. Urlacher is good but he sure isn't as good as the media says he is. Does he have the potential to be great? Yes, I think so but he isn't there right now. I am a big Urlacher fan. I love the guy. He's fast, gets to the ball but he has issues sheading blocks and he doesn't hit hard enough. Bear fans please don't flame me for this because like you, I love my Bears but Urlacher at this point is overated. edit; spelling on "Leifs" name Last edited by maximus : 10-21-2003 at 08:58 PM.

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Front Office Midget High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin	I don't know how he's rated around the league, but here in Wisconsin a lot of people think Mike McKenzie is a top-notch CB, but he's really not.

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TurnerONU22 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ashville, OH	From my Steelers, I'd have to say OLB Jason Gildon. Yeah, he might get double-digit sacks every year and is supposedly almost Pro-Bowl calibur, but he plays VERY VERY poor pass defense and just seems to tackle poorly as well. I still don't see why the Steelers have let go a few other 'backers, but have proceeded to keep him around. With the salary cap getting very tight in the next couple years, I hope he's the first to go Last edited by TurnerONU22 : 10-21-2003 at 10:16 PM.

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TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Urlacher is having a horrible year. He's just not playing good football now. That said, when he has DT's that can let him run free, he's one of the best there is. The Bears are not putting him in a position to succeed and to play to his strengths. You could take any LB in the league and make him overrated. As for overrated right now, here are some names that come to the top of the list for me: Dan Morgan - He can't stay healthy. Even when he does, he doesn't make enough plays. Mike Alstott - The worst 6-time pro bowler in the history of the game. Orlando Pace - 3 consecutive poor seasons. Playing better this year. Last year he was horrible. Vonnie Holiday - The guy lives off of one game a year. He has 10 sacks in his last 17 games. 8 of them have came in two games. This year, after game one, he has a total of 6 tackles and 1 sack in 6 games. Keyshon Johnson - Do I really need to write anything here? TroyF

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DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Shockey is good but very overrated. He redinfied the TE position by making an offense around him? Look at Baltimore, all their passing O goes through the leauges best Tight End, Todd Heap. He is by far the best, because he can do it all, unlike a Shockey or Gonzalez.

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