onside kick AI

ez · 12-03-2000, 04:38 AM

after scoring to get within 24-19 with 1:11 left in a playoff game, my coach decides to kick it deep and watch the opponent run the clock out.

he's a "fair" playcaller, if that matters...

henry296 · 12-03-2000, 07:41 PM

Did you have all 3 TOs left?

Todd

ez · 12-03-2000, 11:02 PM

yep, here's how it played out after the kickoff:



Possession to New Orleans.



1-10-NOS12 (00:56)   NOS 34 Williams ran off left guard for -1 yards. Tackled by WAS 53 Nguyen.

WAS called time out.



2-11-NOS11 (00:45)   NOS 34 Williams ran off left tackle for 3 yards. Tackled by WAS 54 Bulluck.

WAS called time out.



3-08-NOS14 (00:38)   NOS 34 Williams ran off left guard for 9 yards. Tackled by WAS 24 Bailey.

Key block delivered by NOS 38 Dillon.

WAS called time out.

--

1-10-NOS23 (00:29)   NOS 8 Blake ran and dropped to one knee for -1 yards. Tackled by WAS 58 Palumbo.



Game MVP: NOS 80 Harvey Strong

their first down made it moot. but even with a defensive stop, in "normal" circumstances, we'd get the ball back with <30 seconds and no TOs, needing to go 60+ yards for a TD.

even if we don't recover the onsides kick, the necessary defensive stop allows a long field goal at best, leaving us "only" 8 down with <30 seconds, etc.

[This message has been edited by ez (edited 12-03-2000).]

OldGiants · 12-07-2000, 11:52 AM

Here's the answer: the WAS coach was Norv Turner.

Grego · 01-13-2001, 09:49 AM

I've had similar results with my coach and onside kicks, but of the inverse variety.
One example was a divisional playoff game in which we were losing by 2 td's in the 4th qtr. We start moving the ball and stuffing their offense, turning the worm so to speak. We score a td with around 6 minutes left to get within 7. My coach (VG playcalling abilities I believe) calls an onside kick. They recover it, of course, and eat about 3 minutes off the clock and get a FG. We get the ball back, march down the field and get a TD with about 2 minutes left, and you guessed it; my coach kicks deep.
Guess what I'm trying to say, is that I see instances of AI coaches using the onside kick at questionable times in the game.

12-03-2000, 07:41 PM	#2
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Did you have all 3 TOs left? Todd __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

12-03-2000, 11:02 PM	#3
ez High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: parts unknown, weight unknown...	yep, here's how it played out after the kickoff: Possession to New Orleans. 1-10-NOS12 (00:56) NOS 34 Williams ran off left guard for -1 yards. Tackled by WAS 53 Nguyen. WAS called time out. 2-11-NOS11 (00:45) NOS 34 Williams ran off left tackle for 3 yards. Tackled by WAS 54 Bulluck. WAS called time out. 3-08-NOS14 (00:38) NOS 34 Williams ran off left guard for 9 yards. Tackled by WAS 24 Bailey. Key block delivered by NOS 38 Dillon. WAS called time out. -- 1-10-NOS23 (00:29) NOS 8 Blake ran and dropped to one knee for -1 yards. Tackled by WAS 58 Palumbo. Game MVP: NOS 80 Harvey Strong their first down made it moot. but even with a defensive stop, in "normal" circumstances, we'd get the ball back with <30 seconds and no TOs, needing to go 60+ yards for a TD. even if we don't recover the onsides kick, the necessary defensive stop allows a long field goal at best, leaving us "only" 8 down with <30 seconds, etc. [This message has been edited by ez (edited 12-03-2000).] __________________ "Holy mother cow, 86 weeks."

12-07-2000, 11:52 AM	#4
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	Here's the answer: the WAS coach was Norv Turner. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

01-13-2001, 09:49 AM	#5
Grego Mascot Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	I've had similar results with my coach and onside kicks, but of the inverse variety. One example was a divisional playoff game in which we were losing by 2 td's in the 4th qtr. We start moving the ball and stuffing their offense, turning the worm so to speak. We score a td with around 6 minutes left to get within 7. My coach (VG playcalling abilities I believe) calls an onside kick. They recover it, of course, and eat about 3 minutes off the clock and get a FG. We get the ball back, march down the field and get a TD with about 2 minutes left, and you guessed it; my coach kicks deep. Guess what I'm trying to say, is that I see instances of AI coaches using the onside kick at questionable times in the game.

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