My Personal Theology

[st.cronin]

1. I believe I was created by a loving God.
2. I believe I am alive right now because of the love and mercy of God.
3. I believe every waking minute of my life is a near-death experience, even if I don't realize it.
4. I am not afraid of death; dying is easier than living, and being dead is easier than being alive.
5. I believe that enjoying and appreciating life, being as happy as possible at all times, is the very least gesture of thanks I can make to my creator and savior. I also believe I almost always fail at this.

[path12]

I believe you are a wise man.

[Groundhog]

I believe in you and me.

[kingnebwsu]

I believe I can fly.

[TCY Junkie]

I believe in a higher power and that I am going to lose power soon.

[SCgoatman]

Based entirely based on 1-3 and 5, I believe you're a complete and utter idiot. However I also believe that as long as you don't try to force these beliefs on others, it is entirely within your right to believe as such, and may in fact benefit your life and those you know.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by SCgoatman

Based entirely based on 1-3 and 5, I believe you're a complete and utter idiot. However I also believe that as long as you don't try to force these beliefs on others, it is entirely within your right to believe as such, and may in fact benefit your life and those you know.

I believe you should go fuck yourself, he almost died.

I believe I made a friend for life this June in Vegas

[Neon_Chaos]

I believe that white people, black people, and even Chinese people, can all gamble in peace.

Glad you're back st.cro, and I envy the strength of your faith.

[Scarecrow]

I don't believe in superstars,
Organic food and foreign cars.
I don't believe the price of gold;
The certainty of growing old.
That right is right and left is wrong,
That north and south can't get along.
That east is east and west is west.
And being first is always best.

But I believe in love.
I believe in babies.
I believe in Mom and Dad.
And I believe in you.

Well, I don't believe that heaven waits,
For only those who congregate.
I like to think of God as love:
He's down below, He's up above.
He's watching people everywhere.
He knows who does and doesn't care.
And I'm an ordinary man,
Sometimes I wonder who I am.

But I believe in love.
I believe in music.
I believe in magic.
And I believe in you.

Well, I know with all my certainty,
What's going on with you and me,
Is a good thing.
It's true, I believe in you.

I don't believe virginity,
Is as common as it used to be.
In working days and sleeping nights,
That black is black and white is white.
That Superman and Robin Hood,
Are still alive in Hollywood.
That gasoline's in short supply,
The rising cost of getting by.

But I believe in love.
I believe in old folks.
I believe in children.
I believe in you.

But I believe in love.
I believe in babies.
I believe in Mom and Dad.
And I believe in you.

[gkb]

I didn't know st. cronin almost died. Is there a thread with the story that someone can link too please?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

5. I believe that enjoying and appreciating life, being as happy as possible at all times, is the very least gesture of thanks I can make to my creator and savior. I also believe I almost always fail at this.

What makes you think you fail in that?

[Ajaxab]

Originally Posted by SCgoatman

However I also believe that as long as you don't try to force these beliefs on others

So as long as you don't try to force your belief on me about how others shouldn't try to force their beliefs on others things will be just fine....

I just do not understand this line of reasoning.

[korme]

You don't understand why someone wouldn't want someone else's beliefs shoved down their throats? Really?...

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

So as long as you don't try to force your belief on me about how others shouldn't try to force their beliefs on others things will be just fine....

I just do not understand this line of reasoning.

I know come on, It's my job to shove my beliefs down your throat till you agree with them, I must make you see what is wrong and that you are wrong.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by gkb

I didn't know st. cronin almost died. Is there a thread with the story that someone can link too please?

Many of us noticed Cronin had disappeared for a while, but he finally emailed some of us earlier this week to let us know he was ok and then mentioned in THIS THREAD that he had experienced a brush with death, but was getting better now.

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

1. I believe I was created by a loving God.
2. I believe I am alive right now because of the love and mercy of God.
3. I believe every waking minute of my life is a near-death experience, even if I don't realize it.
4. I am not afraid of death; dying is easier than living, and being dead is easier than being alive.
5. I believe that enjoying and appreciating life, being as happy as possible at all times, is the very least gesture of thanks I can make to my creator and savior. I also believe I almost always fail at this.

I am with you on #4. The rest...well, I don't share your beliefs, but I also don't feel the need to take a dump all over them. More power to you, sir.

[Draft Dodger]

I assume "cut a hole in the box" just missed making the list?

[Sgran]

I believe that you can't have public discourse about religion without someone being told where to go. Here it took all of seven posts.

[molson]

I'm glad you're not dead.

#2 is the trickiest - wouldn't you think god loved you even if you didn't make it?

Well, of course you wouldn't think anything, but you see my point.

[Sun Tzu]

I believe...

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

I also don't feel the need to take a dump all over them.

A+ on this.

[WSUCougar]

I'm assuming that #4 is based on belief in an afterlife of some kind?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Sgran

I believe that you can't have public discourse about religion without someone being told where to go. Here it took all of seven posts.

there is a difference between having a discussion and calling someone a complete and utter idiot.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I believe I made a friend for life this June in Vegas

Would you please stop babbling about getting stuck in an elevator with Phil Laak, nobody cares.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I believe...

Ladies and gentlemen....

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE!

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by SCgoatman

Based entirely based on 1-3 and 5, I believe you're a complete and utter idiot. However I also believe that as long as you don't try to force these beliefs on others, it is entirely within your right to believe as such, and may in fact benefit your life and those you know.

Originally Posted by korme

You don't understand why someone wouldn't want someone else's beliefs shoved down their throats? Really?...

Nobody's forcing shit here.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by SCgoatman

Based entirely based on 1-3 and 5, I believe you're a complete and utter idiot. However I also believe that as long as you don't try to force these beliefs on others, it is entirely within your right to believe as such, and may in fact benefit your life and those you know.

Wow, are you serious? The guy almost died you piece of shit. I think the only idiot here is you.

[Draft Dodger]

I bet Cronin would be the first one to tell you his experiences don't mean you have to treat him like a baby

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

I bet Cronin would be the first one to tell you his experiences don't mean you have to treat him like a baby

I don't think sticking up for a friend is the equivalent of treating him like a baby.

[Karlifornia]

I believe that I was created by two girls in search of the perfect man, kind of a gender-reversed version of Weird Science. The only problem is that they weren't well-versed in the field of genetic engineering, so it didn't work out so well.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

I bet Cronin would be the first one to tell you his experiences don't mean you have to treat him like a baby

he likes being held and having his head stroked

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

I bet Cronin would be the first one to tell you his experiences don't mean you have to treat him like a baby

Without speaking for Cronin, I am guessing that his recent experiences helped him see other parts of his life in more clarity and he felt good sharing that clarity here with many whom he considers friends and online friends. No intention to force his view on anyone else or try to convert anyone, but more a way to be thankful for what he realizes.

I also am guessing those that responded very poorly to Cronin's post didn't know his recent illness and trials and if they had known that, they would have less likely responded and probably kept to themselves. As this thread is obviously not the appropriate place for them to try to push their beliefs onto Cronin or anyone else and try to force it down people's throats either.

I am thankful that St.Cronin is doing better and glad that it seems his experiences have helped him become stronger rather than breaking him as a person.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Without speaking for Cronin, I am guessing that his recent experiences helped him see other parts of his life in more clarity and he felt good sharing that clarity here with many whom he considers friends and online friends. No intention to force his view on anyone else or try to convert anyone, but more a way to be thankful for what he realizes.

I also am guessing those that responded very poorly to Cronin's post didn't know his recent illness and trials and if they had known that, they would have less likely responded and probably kept to themselves. As this thread is obviously not the appropriate place for them to try to push their beliefs onto Cronin or anyone else and try to force it down people's throats either.

I am thankful that St.Cronin is doing better and glad that it seems his experiences have helped him become stronger rather than breaking him as a person.

Why did you have to come here and pollute this thread with your "rational thought"

[molson]

Something tells me St. Cronin isn't going to get all worked up about comments people make in this thread.

[Sun Tzu]

Why must any thread that mentions spiritual beliefs turn into a flame war?

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

especially Pumpy...you sweet bastard

[Anthony]

i'm not going to post anything in here, i know cronin made this thread so i could get banned replying to it. i'm not gonna let that happen.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

1. I believe I was created by a loving God.
2. I believe I am alive right now because of the love and mercy of God.
3. I believe every waking minute of my life is a near-death experience, even if I don't realize it.
4. I am not afraid of death; dying is easier than living, and being dead is easier than being alive.
5. I believe that enjoying and appreciating life, being as happy as possible at all times, is the very least gesture of thanks I can make to my creator and savior. I also believe I almost always fail at this.

I love you, honestly and truly, by the example set for all man by the love of our God.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Lorena

Wow, are you serious? The guy almost died you piece of shit. I think the only idiot here is you.

I know that I didn't know this until reading later in this thread so I suspect that goatman probably didn't know that. Hell, I almost posted something in reference to the beliefs until I saw the mention about what had happened to him.

If you take what happened to cronin out of the equation I would say that goatman's post is not that bad as this thread takes on a whole new context in that issue, a very "preachy" context.

With that said, I hope all is well with cronin and remains that way.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

there is a difference between having a discussion and calling someone a complete and utter idiot.

You're right, he should have simply said "I believe you're wrong", and he didn't, but your response was no better. Pot == kettle.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lorena

Wow, are you serious? The guy almost died you piece of shit. I think the only idiot here is you.

People need to calm the fuck down, including you Lorena. See my response to lathum. you're just as out of line with this post.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Without speaking for Cronin, I am guessing that his recent experiences helped him see other parts of his life in more clarity and he felt good sharing that clarity here with many whom he considers friends and online friends. No intention to force his view on anyone else or try to convert anyone, but more a way to be thankful for what he realizes.

I also am guessing those that responded very poorly to Cronin's post didn't know his recent illness and trials and if they had known that, they would have less likely responded and probably kept to themselves. As this thread is obviously not the appropriate place for them to try to push their beliefs onto Cronin or anyone else and try to force it down people's throats either.

I am thankful that St.Cronin is doing better and glad that it seems his experiences have helped him become stronger rather than breaking him as a person.

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I know that I didn't know this until reading later in this thread so I suspect that goatman probably didn't know that. Hell, I almost posted something in reference to the beliefs until I saw the mention about what had happened to him.

If you take what happened to cronin out of the equation I would say that goatman's post is not that bad as this thread takes on a whole new context in that issue, a very "preachy" context.

With that said, I hope all is well with cronin and remains that way.

Thank you gentlemen for stating politely what I was thinking.

[st.cronin]

I'm not bothered by anybody's responses here, although I am cheered immeasurably by every kind word.

I felt I had something to share, you all are free to take it or leave it.

[Jas_lov]

Thank God you're ok st. cronin. I don't know what we'd do here without you. And lay off goatman, it's obvious he didn't know. Love thy neighbor and treat people how you would want to be treated. I think those are in the bible somewhere.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm not bothered by anybody's responses here, although I am cheered immeasurably by every kind word.

I felt I had something to share, you all are free to take it or leave it.

We're all very glad to know you're ok and will get better SC, if your beliefs help you live a longer happier life, then I send my best wishes and energies in the hopes it strengthens them even a little bit.

Be well my friend.

[Marc Vaughan]

I sincerely believe that everyone alive today won the equivalent of 1,000 lotteries just to be born ...

Ignoring the chance of life evolving on the earth etc. - Think of the fact that out of the huge amount of sperm your dad had it was YOU that won the race ....

Taking that into consideration I think everyone should try and do their best to help another and be bappy, whether that best is something which is publicly or financially rewarded isn't important ... its the impact on a personal level which really counts imho.

(and yeah that might sound sappy - but its pretty much an accurate summing of my stance)

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

I sincerely believe that everyone human today won the equivalent of 1,000 lotteries just to be born ...

Ignoring the chance of life evolving on the earth etc. - Think of the fact that out of the huge amount of sperm your dad had it was YOU that won the race ....

I believe no matter which sperm won the race it was still *me* either way. My parents had a child, *I* was that child. No matter which courier of genetic material ate through the egg sac first. Its all the exact same DNA.

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I believe no matter which sperm won the race it was still *me* either way. My parents had a child, *I* was that child. No matter which courier of genetic material ate through the egg sac first. Its all the exact same DNA.

You would have made an ugly woman though, I think we can all agree.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by RendeR

People need to calm the fuck down, including you Lorena. See my response to lathum. you're just as out of line with this post.

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, fuck that. If someone is gonna call a buddy of mine an idiot for having a moment of reflection, I can say whatever the hell I damn please.

So stick it.

[Groundhog]

I expected it to take far longer for this thread to develop as it has.

Glad you're mending St. Cronin.

[Fidatelo]

I don't know what I believe about God, but I do believe that I'm glad St. Cronin is ok, and that I wish more people were ok right now.

I also believe that I'm glad I live in a country (and on a continent) where St. Cronin can post what he posted, and so can a goatman, without any real persecution (message board persecution does not count).

Finally, I believe that I'm a little drunk right now, but that I won't regret this post in the morning.