Home Field Advantage in FOF?

bryce · 01-13-2005, 08:22 AM

Does anyone know if there are any home field advantages in FOF - I guess the most that really could be done is more false start penalties on the road teams, or delay of games, or something of that nature - has anyone noticed any correlation there?

This may have been brought up before, and if so, I apologize. But I bring it up now b/c in my current league, I've clinched my division already at 11-1, and actually have a first round bye secured as well. All that's left to play for is homefield throughout, but if it doesn't mean anything, I'd like to rest my starters and get some playing time to my youngsters.

albionmoonlight · 01-13-2005, 08:33 AM

Take this for what it is worth because I have no hard proof, but I would be suprised if Jim did not factor this in some way or other. He seems too careful to have missed something obvious like that.

I guess one way to test it would be to keep track of home/road records league-wide over 4-5 seasons and see if anything appears.

On the same topic (resting starters). Jim has mentioned before that he did not code in "rust," so if you are worried about injury, don't start someone just to keep him from getting rusty.

MIJB#19 · 01-13-2005, 09:17 AM

Proof from the IHOF (playoffs not included)
all teams in 2006 at home: 156-100
all teams in 2005 at home: 141-115
all teams in 2004 at home: 153-103
Overall winning percentage: 58.59%

cthomer5000 · 01-13-2005, 09:27 AM

IHOF playoff home record (championship games not factored in, but the results are in paranthesis):

2004 4-6 ('home' team won IHOF Bowl)
2005 7-3 ('away' team won IHOF Bowl)
2006 8-2 ('away' team won IHOF Bowl)

19-11 (63.33%)

The number of playoff games makes it far from statistically significant, but when combined with the regular season totals its pretty obvious the home teams are winning a significantly larger number of games.

469-329 overall (58.77%)

albionmoonlight · 01-13-2005, 09:38 AM

The playoffs are skewed because the home teams are (presumably) better.

But a regular season leaguewide home/away comparison over three years is pretty telling.

judicial clerk · 01-13-2005, 12:49 PM

I am sure that home field advantage is taken into account in TCY, and i bet that it occurs to some lesser extent in FOF. In TCY I know made team has gotten over the hump when they can win on the road.

amdaily · 01-13-2005, 01:18 PM

In my current 26 year career, I took a team with a .501 record (207-206-3) and added up their totals.

Home: 123-80
Away: 87-116

A few games got lost in the totals, but not enough to prove home field advantage.

randal7 · 01-13-2005, 11:03 PM

(I assume) Each home playoff game adds to your revenue as well, which is important in the new version.

Dutch · 01-13-2005, 11:30 PM

Thanks for tallying those numbers up MIJB and CT. I thought for sure the numbers would be closer to 50/50.

MIJB#19 · 01-14-2005, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Thanks for tallying those numbers up MIJB and CT. I thought for sure the numbers would be closer to 50/50.

Well, on my part, the most work came from VPI, who made the special home and away records sortable standings at the IHOF site. I just copy-pasted to Excel and used shift-Down cursor to see the overall win totals.

Darkiller · 01-14-2005, 11:14 AM

I have made an "in-depth" study in my 40-season long Real49ersFootball career and I can tell you that my winning % at home is much better than my road win %
(and here we are talking FOF2 - released in 1999....so I can't imagine this implementation if so it exists -and I definitely think it does- not having been retained for later versions of the game).

40 seasons played :
- San Francisco 49ers home winning record : 251-67-1 (.790)
- San Francisco 49ers road winning record : 195-126 (.610)

bryce · 01-14-2005, 01:13 PM

yea, i figured over the haul, the home team win % would be higher. i guess what i'd be interested in, if it's been studied, is the play-by-play details. ie, i call my own plays, but even if you don't and just read the game logs, i wonder how home field advantage affects specifically each play. more penalties and dropped balls on the road team? maybe more missed tackles or some such, resulting in bigger plays for the home team?

Dutch · 01-14-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Well, on my part, the most work came from VPI, who made the special home and away records sortable standings at the IHOF site. I just copy-pasted to Excel and used shift-Down cursor to see the overall win totals.

Is there anything VPI can't do?

01-13-2005, 09:17 AM	#3
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Proof from the IHOF (playoffs not included) all teams in 2006 at home: 156-100 all teams in 2005 at home: 141-115 all teams in 2004 at home: 153-103 Overall winning percentage: 58.59% __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

01-14-2005, 11:14 AM	#11
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	I have made an "in-depth" study in my 40-season long Real49ersFootball career and I can tell you that my winning % at home is much better than my road win % (and here we are talking FOF2 - released in 1999....so I can't imagine this implementation if so it exists -and I definitely think it does- not having been retained for later versions of the game). 40 seasons played : - San Francisco 49ers home winning record : 251-67-1 (.790) - San Francisco 49ers road winning record : 195-126 (.610) __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

01-13-2005, 08:33 AM	#2
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Take this for what it is worth because I have no hard proof, but I would be suprised if Jim did not factor this in some way or other. He seems too careful to have missed something obvious like that. I guess one way to test it would be to keep track of home/road records league-wide over 4-5 seasons and see if anything appears. On the same topic (resting starters). Jim has mentioned before that he did not code in "rust," so if you are worried about injury, don't start someone just to keep him from getting rusty.

01-13-2005, 09:38 AM	#5
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The playoffs are skewed because the home teams are (presumably) better. But a regular season leaguewide home/away comparison over three years is pretty telling.

01-13-2005, 12:49 PM	#6
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	I am sure that home field advantage is taken into account in TCY, and i bet that it occurs to some lesser extent in FOF. In TCY I know made team has gotten over the hump when they can win on the road.

01-13-2005, 01:18 PM	#7
amdaily College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003	In my current 26 year career, I took a team with a .501 record (207-206-3) and added up their totals. Home: 123-80 Away: 87-116 A few games got lost in the totals, but not enough to prove home field advantage.

01-13-2005, 11:03 PM	#8
randal7 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003	(I assume) Each home playoff game adds to your revenue as well, which is important in the new version.

01-13-2005, 11:30 PM	#9
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Thanks for tallying those numbers up MIJB and CT. I thought for sure the numbers would be closer to 50/50.

01-14-2005, 01:13 PM	#12
bryce High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas, TX	yea, i figured over the haul, the home team win % would be higher. i guess what i'd be interested in, if it's been studied, is the play-by-play details. ie, i call my own plays, but even if you don't and just read the game logs, i wonder how home field advantage affects specifically each play. more penalties and dropped balls on the road team? maybe more missed tackles or some such, resulting in bigger plays for the home team?

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