Fight on the bus (White vs. Black)

[Noop]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ

I have to say I am impressed by the white guy.

[Noop]

[Noop]

[Noop]

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[Ramzavail]

haha "oh he leakin'.."

[Swaggs]

Did the white guy say he was 67-years old?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Rarely does a man live up to a t-shirt proclamation such as "I AM A MOTHERFUCKER." This man has succeeded in proving himself worthy of the title.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by Noop

I have to say I am impressed by the white guy.

I thought he was an ar*e myself, he knew he could take the other chap and needled him until he felt he had an excuse to take him down.

It'd be like me (6'5'' and fairly stocky) needling a 14 year old kid and then beating the crap out of him if he went for me .... that being said looked like a playground scuffle to me, nothing serious involved - just a lucky blow to the nose making things look worse than they were.

The saddest thing to me though is that someone felt they had to video this and then post it to youtube, why? - did it help anyone, do people really watch this stuff for 'fun'?

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

do people really watch this stuff for 'fun'?

Unfortuntaley there are a multitude of people that watch others bludgeoning each other for fun...

[DanGarion]

This right here, is why when you are an adult you don't talk shit, because someone will put you in your place. Just be the better person and ignore them.

[Noop]

Apparently the white guy has a history of beating people up and choking them out.

[SportsDino]

All three people, black guy, white guy, and the lady videotaping it all and cheering on a fight (at least from what I hear) are human garbage.

[miked]

Sometimes you get the bull, sometimes you get the horns.

[Big Fo]

The person who comes out the worst in that is the lady videotaping the thing who:

- eggs the attacker on
- steals the big guy's bag after he gets off the bus
- tells the attacker that he can sue the big guy after the attacker got his face blooded
- shows her face in the video so anyone would know who took the bag
- uploads the video on youtube

That's just stupid.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by SportsDino

All three people, black guy, white guy, and the lady videotaping it all and cheering on a fight (at least from what I hear) are human garbage.

Hey! That is one of Noop's heroes you're talking about!

That said. +1

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Noop

Apparently the white guy has a history of beating people up and choking them out.

I'm glad to see you're all over this story. Keep up the good work there, Scoop.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I'm glad to see you're all over this story. Keep up the good work there, Scoop.

Your mother.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Noop

Your mother.

Nice! That was about as witty as the idiot that got his ass kicked by Kenny Rogers!

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

I thought he was an ar*e myself, he knew he could take the other chap and needled him until he felt he had an excuse to take him down.

Maybe I missed something, but didn't he move down to the front of the bus to get away from the other guy?

[thesloppy]

This dude appears to be a magnet for good times:

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2010/02/bus-fighter-was-the-old-guy-that-got-tased-at-the-as-game-last-august

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Maybe I missed something, but didn't he move down to the front of the bus to get away from the other guy?

He did move I'll give him that - but if I remember right after he did he didn't stop making comments which was what caused the other chap to follow (to be honest I've only watched it once and have no desire to do so again).

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Nice! That was about as witty as the idiot that got his ass kicked by Kenny Rogers!

Your Father.

[illinifan999]

Heard the chick filming it say "beat his white ass". I can only imagine the outrage had the roles been reversed and it was a white guy and girl trying to fight with a black guy and she said "beat his black ass".

[illinifan999]

dola

That being said, gotta love how the idiot still thinks he can take the old man after getting his ass handed to him.

[Noop]

[illinifan999]

Glad you agree.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

I thought he was an ar*e myself, he knew he could take the other chap and needled him until he felt he had an excuse to take him down.

It'd be like me (6'5'' and fairly stocky) needling a 14 year old kid and then beating the crap out of him if he went for me .... that being said looked like a playground scuffle to me, nothing serious involved - just a lucky blow to the nose making things look worse than they were.

The saddest thing to me though is that someone felt they had to video this and then post it to youtube, why? - did it help anyone, do people really watch this stuff for 'fun'?

Are you serious? He moved to the front of the bus and the other guy was still telling him he would put a foot up his ass.

Then the guy walks up to the front of the bus and engages the old guy.

How is that "needling" the other guy?

[Sun Tzu]

[RendeR]

Seriously now, the black dude deserved what he got. He wouldn't leave the guy alone after he moved away from him on the damned bus, he hit the old guy in the head first.

You want to call someone an ass then aim it at the younger guy, who got his ass handed to him due to sheer stupidity and arrogance. He thought he was a tough guy against an old man. Some tough guy, hope the nose stops bleeding.

Sheesh.

[k0ruptr]

they both should of shut up when the white guy moved seats. but the black guy should of never went after him.

[Karlifornia]

Black dude wanted a fight. I don't know what context this "shoe shine" comments were in. I've heard from some "sources" that the black guy actually did shine shoes, but his reaction was so negative that I find that tenuous at best.

It was a funny video, though. There are fights every day. Someone gets their ass kicked. Like the dad in Friday says "You live to fight another day". No big shakes.

[Flasch186]

it looked like a well manicured beard.

[Swaggs]

I think that the off camera woman who egged on the black guy is the one who kept things from cooling down.

[CU Tiger]

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[Sun Tzu]

This is the best internet meme since bub rub.

wooo WOOO

*edit* I also don't think it's a coincidence that they both took place in Oakland. If you've ever been to Oakland, you know that this kind of crap is 100% normal. If an old white man is taking public transportation...IN OAKLAND...and he has a shirt on that says "I AM a motherfucker"...IN OAKLAND...then you should know already that he could probably bust you wide open with one punch.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

they both should of shut up when the white guy moved seats. but the black guy should of never went after him.

What he said ...

[illinifan999]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3LK1...layer_embedded

[BYU 14]

Both guys = Douchebags, not to mention the bitch instigating it with the video camera.

[Swaggs]

Was the girl with the camera the one that was instigating the drunk guy on? I thought he was with a girl (it seemed like the girl that was egging him on knew his name, but I've only watched it once, so not positive) that was talking to him and the girl video taping it was just sitting off to the side.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'm not going to spend any time arguing the merits of each side because everyone involved should have behaved themselves. But once the drunk went after the old guy, that was pure comedy gold. Helluva right jab.

[Pumpy Tudors]

To me, it's painfully obvious that the old guy had no interest in ending the whole thing. Moving to the front of the bus was just an act to look like he was taking the high road. I'm not saying it's all his fault, because it's obviously not. Both of the guys are equally responsible. That's just my opinion, of course, but I've been seen enough similar situations (almost none of them coming to actual punches, but it's still the same) to make an educated guess. Both of the guys wanted to fight, one fought better than the other, and that was it. At least nobody pulled out a weapon. If these guys want to be morons and fight each other in public, hell yes, get it on video and entertain those of us who want to point and laugh. I don't really feel the need to watch it more than once, but the one time I saw it was entertaining, at least to me.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

To me, it's painfully obvious that the old guy had no interest in ending the whole thing. Moving to the front of the bus was just an act to look like he was taking the high road. .

Where would you have liked him to go, the roof?

[Noop]

The first time I have actual enjoyed anything Pumpy has posted on this board. Kudos to you Pumpy.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Where would you have liked him to go, the roof?

Probably under the bus, unless his shirt was incorrect he would have been okay.

[AgustusM]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

winner

the whole situation is a real bad indicator of our society, but that made me laugh

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Where would you have liked him to go, the roof?

It wasn't about him moving. Moving was an act. While he was moving, he kept talking. After he moved, he kept talking. That's not putting an end to the situation. That's fanning flames and giving the young guy an excuse to come over and get punched out. Then the old guy could pretend like it was self-defense. If the old guy didn't want the incident to escalate, he had the option of keeping his mouth shut. If he had done that, there'd no longer be an incident. Would keeping quiet have made him look weak or defeated? I don't know. Maybe. But there wouldn't have been a fight. He wanted a fight, he got one, he won, and now (thanks to his shirt being on video) the whole internet knows he's a motherfucker. I sure don't feel bad for him or the other guy. They got what they wanted.

Originally Posted by Noop

The first time I have actual enjoyed anything Pumpy has posted on this board. Kudos to you Pumpy.

That brings the list down to only three people who have never enjoyed anything I've posted here. Indeed, kudos to me. Indeed.

[Sun Tzu]

Ok so here are my two cents on what went down.

While I'm not going to disagree at all that what happened shouldn't have happened, I think there's more to it here. I don't think there were any things that the older guy could have done that would have resulted in a "win" for him. Remember this didn't happen in Minneapolis or upscale suburbia. If you're a minority in what was very recently the murder capital of the world, and some guys are busting you up in public, if you just walk away they'll do the same thing every time they see you. At the same time if you stand up for yourself you run the risk of retaliation later on. I think he did the same thing that most people would have done which is try to distance himself. In fact he obliged to the drunk guys demands to "move his white ass to the front of the bus" as soon as he was told to do so. He kept responding to the jabbering threats of the drunk guy but took zero action. When he was approached...note when HE was approached, he did what I think was acting out of self preservation. He blocked the drunk guys punch and then fought back. Things are a bit different in Oaktown then they are most other places, and if someone calls you out, sometimes the best course of action is to stand up for yourself.

Again, I'm not saying at all that anything that happened should have happened, but considering how the majority of the bus was shouting for "pinky" to "get his white ass kicked" I think it could have ended up a lot worse, for either side. After everything was said and done, the old guy got off the bus, while the drunk guy claimed "if I ever see him again I'll kill him". I would look at it no differently if the races were reversed and this took place in Alabama, rather than Oakland.

[Senator]

All I heard through the whole thing was racial epithets yelled at the old guy by what seemed like several people around. I guess that is ok in this case. Shoes were reversed, I would hate to see what would be said.

[Recoil]

[Noop]

A lot of contradictions in his story.