All-Time Football Draft: The Picks

[pskov]

Rules

1. 12 drafters over 12 rounds in a serpentine order (i.e. ABCDDCBAABCD...)
2. You can draft players who are active or retired and of any position (offense, defense and special teams)
3. You may also draft coaches and coordinators.
4. There are no restrictions upon postions you must draft except coaches (see later). You could draft only defensive players if you wish, or 3 QB's or 10 kickers, whatever. You are not required to draft a coach or coordinator, but you can only have 1 HC and 1 coordinator for a maximum of 2 coaches. Also, you must draft a head coach before drafting a coordinator.
5. There shall be a (rough) 48 hour pick timer, which is suspended over weekends. If you are expecting to have difficulty getting your picks on in time you can PM them to me in advance (just send a priority list of picks).

Draft Order

1.1 - TheLionKing - Joe Montana, QB
1.2 - Comey - Barry Sanders, RB
1.3 - mckerney - Jim Thorpe, RB
1.4 - Noble Platypus - Dan Marino, QB
1.5 - JAG - Brett Favre, QB
1.6 - pskov - Lawrence Taylor, LB
1.7 - VPI97 - Jim Brown, RB
1.8 - Chubby - Walter Payton, RB
1.9 - WSUCougar - Jerry Rice, WR
1.10 - Vince - Dick Butkus, LB
1.11 - Bearcat729 - Steve Young, QB
1.12 - BishopMVP - Deacon Jones, DE

2.1 - BishopMVP - Bob Lilly, DT
2.2 - Bearcat729 - Anthony Munoz, T
2.3 - Vince - Johnny Unitas, QB
2.4 - WSUCougar - Dan Fouts, QB
2.5 - Chubby - Jack Lambert, LB
2.6 - VPI97 - John Elway, QB
2.7 - pskov - Joe Greene, DT
2.8 - JAG - Deion Sanders, CB
2.9 - Noble Platypus - Emmit Smith, RB
2.10 - mckerney - Randy White, DT
2.11 - Comey - Dick 'Night Train' Lane, CB
2.12 - TheLionKing - Jack Ham, LB

3.1 - TheLionKing - Don Hutson, WR
3.2 - Comey - Otto Graham, QB
3.3 - mckerney - Bronko Nagurski, FB/DE
3.4 - Noble Platypus - Bruce Smith, DE
3.5 - JAG - Reggie White, DE
3.6 - pskov - O.J. Simpson, RB
3.7 - VPI97 - Mike Singletary, LB
3.8 - Chubby - Ronnie Lott, S
3.9 - WSUCougar - Alan Page, DT
3.10 - Vince - Eric Dickerson, RB
3.11 - Bearcat729 - Willie Lanier, LB
3.12 - BishopMVP - Mel Blount, CB

4.1 - BishopMVP - John Hannah, G
4.2 - Bearcat729 - Gino Marchetti, DE
4.3 - Vince - Merlin Olsen, DT
4.4 - WSUCougar - Willie Brown, CB
4.5 - Chubby - Vince Lombardi, Head Coach
4.6 - VPI97 - Ray Nitschke, LB
4.7 - pskov - Jim Parker, T/G
4.8 - JAG - Roosevelt Brown, T
4.9 - Noble Platypus - Rod Woodson, S
4.10 - mckerney - Sammy Baugh, QB
4.11 - Comey - Gayle Sayers, RB
4.12 - TheLionKing - Mike Webster, C

5.1 - TheLionKing - Emlen Tunnel, CB
5.2 - Comey - Lance Allworth, WR
5.3 - mckerney - Forrest Gregg, T
5.4 - Noble Platypus - Steve Largent, WR
5.5 - JAG - Marion Motley, RB/LB
5.6 - pskov - Bart Starr, QB
5.7 - VPI97 - Gene Upshaw, G
5.8 - Chubby - Roger Staubach, QB
5.9 - WSUCougar - Art Shell, T
5.10 - Vince - Chuck Bednarik, C/LB
5.11 - Bearcat729 - Paul Warfield, WR
5.12 - BishopMVP - Larry Wilson, S

6.1 - BishopMVP - Bill George, LB
6.2 - Bearcat729 - Paul Brown, Head Coach
6.3 - Vince - Herb Adderly, CB
6.4 - WSUCougar - Ray Lewis, LB
6.5 - Chubby - Derrick Thomas, LB
6.6 - VPI97 - Dwight Stephenson, C
6.7 - pskov - George Halas, Head Coach
6.8 - JAG - John Mackey, TE
6.9 - Noble Platypus - Buck Buchanan,DT
6.10 - mckerney - Red Grange, RB
6.11 - Comey - Ken Houston, S
6.12 - TheLionKing - Earl Campbell, RB

7.1 - TheLionKing - Bill Walsh, Head Coach
7.2 - Comey - Don Shula, Head Coach
7.3 - mckerney - Ron Yary, T
7.4 - Noble Platypus -
7.5 - JAG
7.6 - pskov
7.7 - VPI97
7.8 - Chubby
7.9 - WSUCougar
7.10 - Vince
7.11 - Bearcat729
7.12 - BishopMVP

8.1 - BishopMVP
8.2 - Bearcat729
8.3 - Vince
8.4 - WSUCougar
8.5 - Chubby
8.6 - VPI97
8.7 - pskov
8.8 - JAG
8.9 - Noble Platypus
8.10 - mckerney
8.11 - Comey
8.12 - TheLionKing

9.1 - TheLionKing
9.2 - Comey
9.3 - mckerney
9.4 - Noble Platypus
9.5 - JAG
9.6 - pskov
9.7 - VPI97
9.8 - Chubby
9.9 - WSUCougar
9.10 - Vince
9.11 - Bearcat729
9.12 - BishopMVP

10.1 - BishopMVP
10.2 - Bearcat729
10.3 - Vince
10.4 - WSUCougar
10.5 - Chubby
10.6 - VPI97
10.7 - pskov
10.8 - JAG
10.9 - Noble Platypus
10.10 - mckerney
10.11 - Comey
10.12 - TheLionKing

11.1 - TheLionKing
11.2 - Comey
11.3 - mckerney
11.4 - Noble Platypus
11.5 - JAG
11.6 - pskov
11.7 - VPI97
11.8 - Chubby
11.9 - WSUCougar
11.10 - Vince
11.11 - Bearcat729
11.12 - BishopMVP

12.1 - BishopMVP
12.2 - Bearcat729
12.3 - Vince
12.4 - WSUCougar
12.5 - Chubby
12.6 - VPI97
12.7 - pskov
12.8 - JAG
12.9 - Noble Platypus
12.10 - mckerney
12.11 - Comey
12.12 - TheLionKing

It would be nice if everyone wrote up a few sentences or two on why they choses a particular player etc. It doesn't have to be a masterpiece of literature by any means, but it all adds to the fun. Also comments on picks is welcome, nay, encouraged!

Off we go...

[TLK]

Joe Montana (QB)- Pretty simple.... every team needs a great QB and Montana is the best of my time....

[Vince]

Was foolishly hoping he'd last to my pick.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by TheLionKing

Joe Montana (QB)- Pretty simple.... every team needs a great QB and Montana is the best of my time....

too bad you need to get Walsh to make that statement true

[Noble_Platypus]

Yeah, thats only close to being true assuming you draft the rest of his teammates from the 49ers

[Vince]

Who would you put on the same level as Montana?

[WSUCougar]

Any mention of Dean Houston and I'm going to get violent.

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by Vince

Who would you put on the same level as Montana?

At least four others immediately come to my mind...possibly five. But, I won't reveal who they are because I'm picking seventh

[Vince]

You and me both. Seriously though, I can only see a handful of QBs that could even be COMPARED to Montana, let alone being better than him. And of our time? I don't think anyone's close...

[Noble_Platypus]

From a talent standpoint, I can think of several modern day QB's. I am not juging by rings alone, it takes a team to win a ring. Doug Williams won a ring, I dont put him over QB;s that havent because his team was awesome. Its like saying Barry Sanders wasnt great because he never won a super Bowl. Montana had a great team on both sides of the ball. I am not saying he wasnt a great QB, I just dont think he was the best, IMO

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by VPI97

At least four others immediately come to my mind...possibly five. But, I won't reveal who they are because I'm picking seventh

My thoughts exactly

[pskov]

Well, Montana was pretty clutch, but I agree the system and team allowed him success. Still, I wouldn't have any other QB leading my drive if down in the 4th quarter.

I'm gonna be interested to see when the run on coaches starts, I've never seen a draft which includes them.

[JAG]

I think pretty much every pick this draft will be well-scrutinized.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by pskov

Well, Montana was pretty clutch, but I agree the system and team allowed him success. Still, I wouldn't have any other QB leading my drive if down in the 4th quarter.

Not even Elway?

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by pskov

Well, Montana was pretty clutch, but I agree the system and team allowed him success. Still, I wouldn't have any other QB leading my drive if down in the 4th quarter.

Tom Brady At least for OT.

I have 2 non-QB players in mind I hope fall to my picks, but I doubt they will.

[JAG]

I think my ideas for my first two picks will be attacked quite a bit. The timing of this draft is interesting, because I just had completed a Q on another board asking how you would build an NFL team by position. I'm going to stick to my guns for the most part (I think I listed 24 or so and didn't have the potential to choose coaches, so there may be some variation).

[WSUCougar]

bump

[Vince]

Re-bump. Who's up? Comey? ...riiiiiiight.

[yabanci]

I can't think of Montana without thinking of Jerry Rice. Imagine what Marino would have done if he had Jerry Rice all those years.

[pskov]

Originally Posted by Vince

Re-bump. Who's up? Comey? ...riiiiiiight.

48hr pick timer. He has until 10:50pm GMT tomorrow.

[Comey]

Sorry guys...I was away from the computer, out searching for jobs. Didn't realize we'd start this soon.

I'll select Barry Sanders, RB. I had thought of another player, but I'm gonna see if he falls to me in the second round. I couldn't pass up the most elusive running back of our era, and perhaps in history. So, Barry it is.

[Comey]

Originally posted by Vince

Re-bump. Who's up? Comey? ...riiiiiiight.

Sorry I didn't post last night, much less be on a computer. Went out to dinner with my wife for the first time since our wedding, got a bit of something from the food (not poisoning, but definitely didn't feel right), and basically passed out at 9pm. Spent the day looking for a job.

However, just to cement your opinion that I'm incompetent, due to my post count (and not due to my being in the e-gaming community for seven years), I'll make sure to wait until hour 47 of my next pick. Just to confirm your obviously founded and knowledgeable opinion.

Have a good evening, and good luck in the draft.

- John

[clintl]

Originally Posted by yabanci

I can't think of Montana without thinking of Jerry Rice. Imagine what Marino would have done if he had Jerry Rice all those years.

That could have been fun, but Clayton and Duper were pretty good themselves.

And Montana won half of his Super Bowls before Rice got there. He was pretty good when throwing to Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon, too. In fact, he was pretty good before the 49ers even had a decent running back to take the pressure off the passing game. I think people who are trying to assert that Montana was only as good as he was because of the people around him are forgetting that the 49ers were not very deep in his early years, and yet he was a winner right away.

[TLK]

Rough day Comey?

*bump*

[JAG]

Well Comey, at the very least you have the head start on the most entertaining of all our teams. I think the hardest part of this draft is trying to fit in where modern day players fit in with the old-timers.

And congrats on your (recent?) marriage, I'm getting hitched myself next week.

[Vince]

Sorry Comey, just trying to be funny. No offense intended...

I was probably a little upset that people were trying to bring Montana down to the level of mere mortals.

[BishopMVP]

Who's up? mckerney? .....riiiiiiight.

[pskov]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Who's up? mckerney? .....riiiiiiight.

[Comey]

I guess I was upset. I had just gotten stabbed in the arm (long story). My apologies to Vince.

I will be interested to see how Sanders sizes up to the rest of the first-round. I'm really hoping my second-round pick (the guy I want) is available to me...I don't know how everyone is thinking in this thing, but the strategy will be very interesting to see play out.

[Huckleberry]

Montana. Ha. Hahahaha. Hahahahahaha.

[JAG]

I'm hoping my first two picks are there, because I'm not sure who I'd pick in their places...I'd really have to think about things.

[Bearcat729]

bump

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Comey

I guess I was upset. I had just gotten stabbed in the arm (long story). My apologies to Vince.

I will be interested to see how Sanders sizes up to the rest of the first-round. I'm really hoping my second-round pick (the guy I want) is available to me...I don't know how everyone is thinking in this thing, but the strategy will be very interesting to see play out.

Jesus, stabbed in the arm? That's ridiculous.

No apologies necessary...I re-read my post, and I sounded like a jackass. Bygones

[TLK]

mckerney.... make your pick.....

[mckerney]

Alright TLK, here it is:

Jim Thorpe

Not only is he a great offensive player at RB, he can also handle field goal kicking (once hit a 75 yarder) and punting (longest of 90 yards). Any guy who had a president suffer a career ending injury trying to tackle him can start on my team.

[yabanci]

Originally Posted by clintl

That could have been fun, but Clayton and Duper were pretty good themselves.

And Montana won half of his Super Bowls before Rice got there. He was pretty good when throwing to Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon, too. In fact, he was pretty good before the 49ers even had a decent running back to take the pressure off the passing game. I think people who are trying to assert that Montana was only as good as he was because of the people around him are forgetting that the 49ers were not very deep in his early years, and yet he was a winner right away.

good points.

[TroyF]

I'm not especially fond of either of the first two picks. Not that they aren't great players, but I think there are far better ones out there. Just my two cents for what it's worth.

[TLK]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I'm not especially fond of either of the first two picks. Not that they aren't great players, but I think there are far better ones out there. Just my two cents for what it's worth.

In all honesty..... I wouldn't have gone with Montana #1.... I know there's going to be a run of QB's..... and if I could have any QB, I'm going with Montana... that's why he was #1...

[MIJB#19]

As a true Minnesota Viking, mckerney is running out the clock...


EDIT: or at least pskov is trying to make it look like it...

[JAG]

mckerney already picked. Noble Platypus is on the clock.

[pskov]

Jim Thorpe, interesting... I would never have thought of him.

Well, the first thre picks are certainly far from what I expected. Which is good of course.

[mckerney]

You can list Thorpe as just a RB for simplicity, was just pointing out that he was an all-everything athelete, which he showed in the Olympics when he won both the decathlon and pentathlon, finishing first in 9 of the 15 total events. May not be the first name that would come to mind as a great football player, but he's probably one of the greatest atheletes the country has ever seen, though he unfortionately came around in a time where there was virtually no interest in pro football.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I'm not especially fond of either of the first two picks. Not that they aren't great players, but I think there are far better ones out there. Just my two cents for what it's worth.

Hey, weren't you the one who accused me of smoking drugs for picking a Colts vs. Panthers super bowl matchup?

[Noble_Platypus]

Guess its my turn. I'll take Dan Marino. I know I will take heat for this, considering that he never won a Super Bowl, but he holds all of the records for a reason. He never had a great RB like Aikman and Montana, and he never had a great defense. You knew he was going to come out throwing and still couldnt do anything about it. I think its unfair to judge a single player on the basis of Super Bowls alone, even if he is a QB.

[Noble_Platypus]

Hey, weren't you the one who accused me of smoking drugs for picking a Colts vs. Panthers super bowl matchup?

Being a Colts fan that would be fine with me.

[albionmoonlight]

My #1 choice is still out there.

Good call on Jim Thorpe--outside the box and all that.

I'm happy that Marino went so early, too.

[pskov]

Hmm, thinking about revising my strategy now. The player I am targeting could easily fall to the second at this rate.

JAG's up next.

[JAG]

With the #5 pick in the draft, JAG selects....QB Brett Favre

Why a QB:
The position that sets the tone for a team, at least the offense, and touches the ball more than any other player. I've heard this 'ball' thing is important. In my opinion, the most important position on the team.

Why Brett Favre:
I think my choice is the most controversial of the early ones because his gambling style can get him into trouble (I think most of us saw or at least heard about his last throw this year for instance). So why pick him with many other talented and less risky QB's out there?

He's got the intangibles you want. He's passionate, hungers to win (and could care less about stats), confident, makes the players around him better. With all that, he's got one of the best arms of all-time, has incredible durability, and is solid in bad weather. I'll feel comfortable knowing a little thing like a broken thumb won't keep my QB out of a game. Finally, since this is an all-time draft, I like that he could be transported back in time about 30-35 years and have the same if not better success than he does today (imagine, no playing in domes).

Apologize for the length, just wanted to get my sentiments out there.

pskov, you are on the clock!

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by pskov

Hmm, thinking about revising my strategy now. The player I am targeting could easily fall to the second at this rate.

Ditto

[JAG]

Noble,

I agree with you. I think # of rings can elevate a player, especially if they played well in their Super Bowl appearance(s), but just because you played on an awful team doesn't mean you weren't a winner. Considering Barry Sanders was taken second overall, I think you're not alone.