Skydog you are a dictator sometimes.

[druez]

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...threadid=17777

You locked this thread because people disagreed with you banning someone? Come on man that is just flat out dictator like.

I read all mrskippy's post and he didn't curse or insult anyone. I don't get it. I know I'm missing the history here but you shouldn't be that way as a mod.

Next point, on the html mod. How can you ban that skippy guy when you had people "Slander" a company on your boards and accuse them of stealing code. Come on man, that is BS. You are being to one sided.

Skippy gets banned because he says,

There are no bugs in FOF?

I know why he said it I've seen people flamed here before because they said FOF has bugs. He was beign sarcastic, not talking about someones mother, not accusing a company of stealing, not saying that someone was lying about a death in the family and the other 100 things that go on here.

If you are going to ban him because you don't like him, then fine say that. But, don't hide behind a bunch of BS, its cowardly and wrong.

Me thinks you will lock this thread, because I'm questioning you. I like you and you are a great tester and your music is nice. "A bit to religious for me, but a very nice sound". But, you are a guy just like us and being a mod of a internet website doesn't make you god of the board.

Have a nice day,

[FloridaFringe]

Here we go, again.

[FloridaFringe]

DOLA:

These are the most illogical type of threads to start in this forum and should be kept behind the sense. SkyDog can be reached via PM or Email if you actually have a problem with how he runs this board.

To call someone out as a dictator in public is just plain old stupid. Moron.

[maximus]

Its not me this time guys......

[druez]

Now you calling me a moron is an attack. He made it public he banned him again to everyone hence making it public. Why is it fair for him to be able to call people out on the public boards, but when its to be discussed it must be pushed privately.

No, if its ok to speak publicly about banning someone and making a point that you are king and cool when you do it, then it should be allowed the other way around.

This is a DEMOCRACY.

The general description of the boards, is anything goes but keep it civil. What is not civil about saying "FOF has no bugs?"

Thats sarcastic yes, but not civil hardly.

So, please get off of your knees and breathe from kissing skydogs ass.

[FrogMan]

this should be fun...

*runs to the back of the room to watch it all happen*

[korme]

Um, speak in private and nothing ever happens.

Heh.

I'll go away now.

[Buccaneer]

This is a DEMOCRACY.

Wrong. Read the rules.

[WSUCougar]

Sometimes...when he got bored and the ice weasels were out and about...Shorty would change his IP address and put on his druez costume, and then go out and raze some Net hell.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by druez
[url]But, you are a guy just like us and being a mod of a internet website doesn't make you god of the board.

Well, technically it does, but I'm not one to split hairs. Whether you like it or not, the buck stops here. Period. I rarely use that power, (There are only 3 people who are permanently banned from this place.) but this is a private run board.

Furthermore, it is clear that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about. mrskippy has a long history, WAYYYYYYYYYYY beyond your time here, of being an extremely high-strung troll. I was magnanimous enough to allow him back on the board when FOF2K4 was released, but under some very strict conditions. I told mrskippy he had to avoid all controversy, all sarcasm, and all trolling. The "FOF2K4 has no bugs" was clearly an attempt at trolling.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally posted by druez
This is a DEMOCRACY.

nope. it's a message board.
(a fact Skippy would have done well to remember)

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by druez
This is a DEMOCRACY.

ROFLMBAO. You apparently didn't read the rules when you signed up, huh?

[WillyWTE]

Can I get an IP check at till 5 please.

[druez]

As I said in my post, I don't know the history. But, he could of easily come back here. Its not hard to change your name, or if you ban by ip, to get a new or to spoof.

Most of the good threads on this board are filled with controversy. While it is a private board, I do believe that gamespy.com still does have final say and you could get your mod rights revoked if you abused them, could you not?

Not that you abuse them, I just don't understand why you banned one of the only guys in the HTML thread that stuck up for .400. It seemed like a lynching on the poor guy because he was in the minority.

You had people accusing the company of theft, "which is slanderis" and you allowed them to keep posting.

Not knowing the history of the guy, it just flat out seems wrong and hypocritical.

I said my piece and you said yours. Thanks for the chance to talk.

Good day,

Druez

[FloridaFringe]

Edit: to delete all trolling content.

[dacman]

Originally posted by WillyWTE
Can I get an IP check at till 5 please.

American translation:

Can I get an IP check in aisle 5 please?

[WSUCougar]

...the Death Star will be in firing range in 5 minutes...

...the SkyDog will be in thread lock in less than that...

[Blade6119]

for once ill stay out of this kind of discussion...i think we all know my viewpoint

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by druez
Me thinks you will lock this thread, because I'm questioning you.

Yet another place where you missed the boat.

[maximus]

SkyDog....screw this thread. Go to the " I just love Career stats" thread and tell me what you think about my question concerning more of an indepth stats tracking(retired player stats) for TPF.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by druez
You locked this thread because people disagreed with you banning someone?

Wrong again.

[korme]

I applaud SD for not deleting this, atleast I get to see where he is coming from instead of a delete and leaving myself with unanswered questions.

Oh, and WSU, get off of me already.

[druez]

Skydog, I didn't miss the boat, you are predictable.

By calling you out as a dictator and saying you would lock my thread, just prevented you from doing so. Because, it would of made you look like more of a dictator, not willing to debate the point.

But you still are missing the point. YOU allow slanderis posts on your board, Accusing .400 of code theft. You didn't reprimand the person or ban them.

I want to know why? Please explain.


This is a moderated forum, but it is not private. Private forums can not exist if you allow public access, which you do.

So by allowing people to make false accusations on your board on a "PUBLIC SITE" is indeed wrong.

[sabotai]

No one accused .400 of stealing anyone's code.

I'm willing to bet the reason SD didn't say anything is because once HR said in the thread that he talked to Arlie and it was resolved, everyone pretty much dropped it. Everyone, except of course for mrskippy.

[WSUCougar]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
Oh, and WSU, get off of me already.

Moi? Sorry.

And all this time I thought that when you got into Don Quixote mode and tilted at windmills you were impervious to humorous jabs. My bad.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by druez
Skydog, I didn't miss the boat, you are predictable.

By calling you out as a dictator and saying you would lock my thread, just prevented you from doing so. Because, it would of made you look like more of a dictator, not willing to debate the point.

You see, again you're off base. Your thinking is flawed, because it is based on the (false) premise that I care whether or not you think I'm a dictator. I couldn't possibly care less.

But you still are missing the point. YOU allow slanderis posts on your board, Accusing .400 of code theft. You didn't reprimand the person or ban them.

No one directly accused .400 of code theft, to my knowledge.

I want to know why? Please explain.

Frankly, your irrational behavior in this thread precludes me from caring about whether I explain every jot and tittle to you.

[druez]

quote:
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Originally posted by druez
You locked this thread because people disagreed with you banning someone?
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Originally posted by SkyDog
Wrong again.

Nah. He's wrong. End of this discussion.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/fo...&threadid=17777

That is how you ended that thread talking of skippies ban.

Don't think I'm to wrong there

[korme]

I guess you were joking but your always getting on me for my viewpoints.

Sorry, next time I will just assume you were kidding, my fault.

[samifan24]

Originally posted by druez
Skydog, I didn't miss the boat, you are predictable.

By calling you out as a dictator and saying you would lock my thread, just prevented you from doing so. Because, it would of made you look like more of a dictator, not willing to debate the point.

But you still are missing the point. YOU allow slanderis posts on your board, Accusing .400 of code theft. You didn't reprimand the person or ban them.

I want to know why? Please explain.


This is a moderated forum, but it is not private. Private forums can not exist if you allow public access, which you do.

So by allowing people to make false accusations on your board on a "PUBLIC SITE" is indeed wrong.

Why do you continue to instigate the man? What do you hope to gain? Let it go man, what's the point?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by druez
quote:
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Originally posted by druez
You locked this thread because people disagreed with you banning someone?
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Nah. He's wrong. End of this discussion.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/fo...&threadid=17777

That is how you ended that thread talking of skippies ban.

Don't think I'm to wrong there

1. Your link is wrong.
2. Nowhere in that thread does it say WHY I closed the thread. You made an assumption, one that was incorrect. Sit down, Junior.

[CamEdwards]

I really need this thread tonight. Thanks Druez

This is a Democracy... hee hee! That's classic.

[CraigSca]

This is a public forum, yes. Therefore, people are allowed to post their opinions, no matter how outlandish they may be. Ben is the policeman and you sign up for that when you agree to "membership". Sometimes people's opinions are outlandish and offensive (i.e. Gary's family situation) and Ben has every right to ban a person for making such a remark. However, while other opinions may be judged as slanderous and outlandish (the stealing of code that you refer to), it is ultimately just that - someone's opinion. I think very few of us would judge that to be offensive in a "moral" court. Plus, it was obvious that there was some dialogue between the two developers, and HR seemed to question the "coincidence".

Ultimately, I can only assume that you're trying to make the point that Ben is somehow anti-.400 -- which I think is dubious since he's part of the beta team. I give Ben the benefit of the doubt regarding his intentions when agreeing to become a part of that team.

[VPI97]

fucking elitists

[Buccaneer]

Shorty, go fuck yourself. (whew, I've always wanted to get that off of my chest. Yes, I want to see the Swedish massager.)

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by samifan24
Why do you continue to instigate the man? What do you hope to gain? Let it go man, what's the point?

Well, he isn't "instigating" me. That word would imply that he has gotten under my skin or that I care one iota about the opinions that he has expressed.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by CraigSca
Ultimately, I can only assume that you're trying to make the point that Ben is somehow anti-.400 -- which I think is dubious since he's part of the beta team.

....and REALLY funny when you consider that Arlie and I are having an IM conversation laughing about this thread as it progresses.

[samifan24]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Well, he isn't "instigating" me. That word would imply that he has gotten under my skin or that I care one iota about the opinions that he has expressed.

True but I don't understand why he won't let this go, he said his piece, you said yours, why does he feel the need to keep this going?

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by CamEdwards
I really need this thread tonight. Thanks Druez

This is a Democracy... hee hee! That's classic.

When I read that, I had the now famous "I won't accept a banning" that popped in my head

FM

[WSUCougar]

OH MY GOD! druez isn't Shorty in disguise, it's SkyDog!!!

And he's...he's...MASTERBANNING!!!

[sterlingice]

Thanks, CraigSca. Pretty good post you had there. I kindof got suckered into reading this because I figured this would be a good joke thread and not something serious.

However, when a lot of you guys just prance around the "destroy the troll" pole, it kindof serves to prove him right. While I agree SkyDog does a good job here of not abusing his power, some of you are following the typical net behavior of "scorn anyone who's not in the little clique of old timers" which really drives off new members. If I didn't know a little about Skippys past here, I'd think that the mods had an itchy trigger finger, too. Explain what's up to the guy rather than egg him on.

SI

[FloridaFringe]

Originally posted by druez

Most of the good threads on this board are filled with controversy. While it is a private board, I do believe that gamespy.com still does have final say and you could get your mod rights revoked if you abused them, could you not?

This is a moderated forum, but it is not private. Private forums can not exist if you allow public access, which you do.

So by allowing people to make false accusations on your board on a "PUBLIC SITE" is indeed wrong.

This is not a public site since membership is required prior to being allowed to post. Once you agree to the terms of membership you have joined a private forum. Granted of course that SkyDog approves your membership request. Unless you didn't realize that he has to approve every membership request before someone can become a member. Therefore, it is Skydog’s site.

Also, gamespy does not own the board but rather the space it occupies. They own the land while SkyDog owns the house. You are playing under Skydog’s roof with his permission, I would suggest following his rules or go elsewhere.

[WSUCougar]

Originally posted by sterlingice
However, when a lot of you guys just prance around the "destroy the troll" pole...

SI...please say "prance" again in a sentence, preferably with the word "picayune" in there too.

Thanks a bunch.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally posted by SkyDog
....and REALLY funny when you consider that Arlie and I are having an IM conversation laughing about this thread as it progresses.

he's not laughing with you.

we're also IMing, and I just sent him "the picture".

[Ben E Lou]

Oh...and if anyone cares (which I kind of doubt), Chief Rum PM'ed me asking why I closed that thread, and I explained it to him. He understood why. (That's not to say that he necessarily agreed with my reasoning--he didn't explicitly say one way or the other--but he definitely understood where I was coming from.) Since it was his thread that I closed, his opinion is the one that matters most to me.

[druez]

Originally posted by HeavyReign
Sorry Arlie,

We've never had a problem before but I'm not buying this one. The odds of such a coincidence are beyond low. I expect more from you guys.

Same type of comment as FOF Has no bugs.

Didn't this guy write the game that the code was alledgedly "taken from?"

Originally posted by HeavyReign
Ummm.....I'm speechless

Originally posted by Daimyo
This is the company that is supposed to make a better football sim than FOF? This isn't surprising though. When the .400 site originally opened it was a direct rip off of a diablo 2 site right down to several links still pointing to the original ripped off site.

Why exactly do people have so much confidence in .400?

Direct Ripoff? Hmm sounds like an accuation to me.

Originally posted by RPI-Fan
I guess I could wait a little while, BUT...

The problems that I'm seeing people talking about on their forums are engine-type stuff (somebody reported having a player go 427-427 on free throws, for example).

Not only do they have showstopping bugs (completely incorrect boxscores, players disappearing), from what I'm reading, the whole model seems to be a bit, off. I'll wait for more opinions before I really hammer this game, but I do know I won't be buying it. FBB is ALWAYS a compeltely playable game right from release, and the features it has work completely. Again, time will tell whether or not this game is actually quality. Even if it is, I can't imagine it being as tight as FBB.

I'll freely admit that I'm an FBB fanboy. But the reason is coz HR deserves it. If he released buggy products or stole people's designs, I wouldn't be nearly so defensive of his products.

But he doesn't do that, and .400 does.

Now lets focus on the last paragraph, If he released buggy products or stole people's designs, I wouldn't be near so defensive of his products, but he doesn't do that and .400 does?

Sounds like a direct accuation to me?

I'm only half way through the thread.

My problem with this is not the half hearted attempts of people to accuse .400 of stealing code. Its the obvious hypocracy that is shown here that you allow this to go on, but ban skippy for defending this point and making a sarcastic comment.

Just doesn't mesh.

[Blade6119]

like 2 minutes ago this was at like 15 posts...quick thread

[Draft Dodger]

time for a reaction shot of Mrs Hassleback

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Oh...and if anyone cares (which I kind of doubt), Chief Rum PM'ed me asking why I closed that thread, and I explained it to him. He understood why. (That's not to say that he necessarily agreed with my reasoning--he didn't explicitly say one way or the other--but he definitely understood where I was coming from.) Since it was his thread that I closed, his opinion is the one that matters most to me.

Nah, we don't really care. This would be a more entertaining thread if you were just a spectator and quit butting in as a participant

EDIT: BTW, WSU, still working on an alliterative sentence because even if you didn't really want it, you asked for it

SI

[Buccaneer]

This really is getting funny. Any chance for an all-time FOFC classic?

[sabotai]

Just a quick FWIW...stealing code and stealing design are two entirely different things...

Ok, back to the show.