Front Office Football 2004, Version 5.1b Update

Solecismic · 12-14-2004, 12:42 PM

The 5.1b update is now ready for download, both at ViaTech and on SkyDog's mirror.

It contains the following:

1) A modification of the logic used to value salary offers. There was far too much emphasis on bonus money in the 5.1 version.

2) A fix to the logic used to determine playoff participants in cases where three or four divisions had a team tied for the spot, and only two of the teams had played each other.

3) A fix preventing you from offering hundreds of billions of dollars to a staff member, interpreted by the game as a large negative number.

4) Interceptions returned for a touchdown are included in the generation of individual points scored totals.

5) Limit access to rookie negotiations in multi-player leagues where the commissioner has decided to run the draft and expose the results to players before the draft actually should take place.

6) Add tracking of championship rings and total player of the game awards.

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ftp://fof2004.elicense.com/pub/Solec...otball2004.exe
http://www.younglifenorthlake.com/Fr...otball2004.exe

Ben E Lou · 12-14-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

6) Add tracking of championship rings and total player of the game awards.

WSUCougar · 12-14-2004, 12:44 PM

Outstanding work, Jim.

flere-imsaho · 12-14-2004, 12:45 PM

Holy crap! Cool!

VPI97 · 12-14-2004, 12:48 PM

jbmagic · 12-14-2004, 12:50 PM

thanks

Solecismic · 12-14-2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

I should add that tracking begins with the installation of the patch. That information is not available in pre-5.1b data files. Same with the points scored bug - that statistic is not calculated dynamically in the game.

CraigSca · 12-14-2004, 12:52 PM

Son of a....great work, Jim!

Ben E Lou · 12-14-2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I should add that tracking begins with the installation of the patch. That information is not available in pre-5.1b data files. Same with the points scored bug - that statistic is not calculated dynamically in the game.

So, does that mean we should start new career to get the tracking, or will creating a new savegame with an old career work?

MikeVic · 12-14-2004, 12:54 PM

edit: Jim answered my question above.

samifan24 · 12-14-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

So, does that mean we should start new career to get the tracking, or will creating a new savegame with an old career work?

You're asking if we just install the patch and open an existing career then all Championships after the patch install would have it, right? If so, then I'm wondering the same thing; if not, then I just asked my question Either way this is great

Fonzie · 12-14-2004, 12:57 PM

Rock on!

Flasch186 · 12-14-2004, 12:57 PM

you are unreal

Suicane75 · 12-14-2004, 12:59 PM

Wow, 5 days after two pretty big bug reports and he's already got a patch out. Jim, your level of customer service is second to none.

Kozure · 12-14-2004, 01:02 PM

very nice

Mark - RNFL Commish

sachmo71 · 12-14-2004, 01:02 PM

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6) Add tracking of championship rings and total player of the game awards.

Hard to describe how much value this adds to the game for me. Thanks.

Flasch186 · 12-14-2004, 01:08 PM

i dont even know what the hell 5 means, but i love it

Ben E Lou · 12-14-2004, 01:08 PM

Answered my own question.

Ben E Lou · 12-14-2004, 01:09 PM

Looks like by saving the game again, it will track forward in an existing career.

KWhit · 12-14-2004, 01:10 PM

Great stuff. Thanks.

cuervo72 · 12-14-2004, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

5) Limit access to rookie negotiations in multi-player leagues where the commissioner has decided to run the draft and expose the results to players before the draft actually should take place.

This only seems a tad judgemental to me...

Thanks Jim.

TurnerONU22 · 12-14-2004, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Looks like by saving the game again, it will track forward in an existing career.

By saving the game again, do you mean just clicking save once you open it, or do you mean creating a new save file once you open it?

Suicane75 · 12-14-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

This only seems a tad judgemental to me...

Thanks Jim.

Trust me, it's a good idea. I've run across something in my MP league that may or may not hamper me down the line but in contacts with Jim I think it's clear that being able to negotiate with rookies before the commish is actualy done with the draft may lead to a problem.

amdaily · 12-14-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

Hard to describe how much value this adds to the game for me. Thanks.

Agreed. Fantastic feature!

Icy · 12-14-2004, 01:17 PM

Wow awesome and fast work Jim, could you believe guys that i have been surfing the forum for 40 minutes without noticing this patch until i received an email from the NAFL about it?? i need a doctor to take a look at my eyes.

Btw, as Jim keeps adding fantastic stuff each time he fixes a bug like the new rings tracking... mybe we should look again to see if we can find another one

Coffee Warlord · 12-14-2004, 01:19 PM

Holy ungodly salary on that guy, SkyDog.

cuervo72 · 12-14-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Trust me, it's a good idea. I've run across something in my MP league that may or may not hamper me down the line but in contacts with Jim I think it's clear that being able to negotiate with rookies before the commish is actualy done with the draft may lead to a problem.

Ah, I hadn't heard there might be some technical problems with doing it this way. If that's the case, then that makes sense.

(In one league this has been used as an incentive to get people to make picks in a timely manner [forum draft] - if they move things along, they can get shots at signing their guys. A bit of a side benefit.)

MIJB#19 · 12-14-2004, 01:22 PM

It's probably not very creative to quote The Simpons' Mister Burns, but here goes:

Excellent

Calis · 12-14-2004, 01:33 PM

Wow, love the tracking of rings, something I've really been looking forward to.

Thanks a lot Jim, you just never let us quit eh? Some little new thing always make me play again.

spleen1015 · 12-14-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Holy ungodly salary on that guy, SkyDog.

2022. Inflation.

gstelmack · 12-14-2004, 01:35 PM

Where's the "picking myself up off the floor" smiley when you need it?

Eaglesfan27 · 12-14-2004, 01:35 PM

Excellent news.

Franklinnoble · 12-14-2004, 01:39 PM

Seriously... with all the updates that have occurred... this should be a paid release... I feel guilty taking this for free.

Senator · 12-14-2004, 01:41 PM

Huzzah!

Pyser · 12-14-2004, 01:45 PM

jim, i know another person just adding "thanks" gets lost in the shuffle, but i'll add my extreme gratitude. even though there were questions that this was even a bug, you had it looked into and tweaked in less than 2 days. that is simply amazing. there is no other word to use. thanks again.

TredWel · 12-14-2004, 01:46 PM

Wow. Thanks very much for looking at and fixing this problem in such quick fashion.

Flasch186 · 12-14-2004, 01:51 PM

The entire USFL is thankful

fantastic flying froggies · 12-14-2004, 01:54 PM

Hats off to Mr Gindin. Once again.

Raiders Army · 12-14-2004, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Seriously... with all the updates that have occurred... this should be a paid release... I feel guilty taking this for free.

For real. I know I would've paid at least $80 for this game upon release. My wife would've even supported that.

I bought Doom 3, and I've played it less than 10 times.

I bought Sims 2, and I've played it twice.

I bought FOF 2004, and I've played it too many times to count. The value of this game is unreal.

azjoe_02 · 12-14-2004, 02:13 PM

WOW! I never (and I mean NEVER) have had this kind of dedication from any company I have purchased anything from. Jim, you LEAD the market in customer service!

THANK YOU!

Gallifrey · 12-14-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

6) Add tracking of championship rings and total player of the game awards.

Wow!

Gallifrey · 12-14-2004, 02:17 PM

And I should add thanks!

Now if I had just won my championship game...rings for all!

korme · 12-14-2004, 02:31 PM

i asked for championship rings forEVER (remember this?)

now it's here.

now a dilemma.

continue 60 year career, or start over. :/

Flasch186 · 12-14-2004, 02:33 PM

start over

MizzouRah · 12-14-2004, 02:36 PM

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2) A fix to the logic used to determine playoff participants in cases where three or four divisions had a team tied for the spot, and only two of the teams had played each other.

Too bad for Buffalo in my career, but Jacksonville would have beaten them anyway.

Add another, "Thanks a ton!" Jim. I didn't expect something this fast.. and with additions to boot!! Woot!

Todd

jbmagic · 12-14-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Too bad for Buffalo in my career, but Jacksonville would have beaten them anyway.

Add another, "Thanks a ton!" Jim. I didn't expect something this fast.. and with additions to boot!! Woot!

Todd

what happen to the Rams?

MizzouRah · 12-14-2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

what happen to the Rams?

I had connection issues at home, so I went on. I finished 10-6, won my division, and just beat Minnesota to put me into the NFC Championship vs Kurt Warner and the Giants. Although this time it's not Bulger vs Warner, it's Chandler vs Warner.

I think I'm going to start over after the Super Bowl and do a 5.1b dynasty. That way I can use the updated player file you sent me.

Todd

Flasch186 · 12-14-2004, 02:58 PM

can i get an updated player file?

Kodos · 12-14-2004, 03:01 PM

Thanks, Jim!

jbmagic · 12-14-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

can i get an updated player file?

sure, just pm your email address

its the same real player file that available on the fof/tcy reference thread...

but i add contract extensions on several players that happen this year and also fix some player positions that was still incorrect...

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/f...ayer+positions

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12-14-2004, 12:54 PM	#10
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flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Holy crap! Cool!

12-14-2004, 12:50 PM	#6
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	thanks

12-14-2004, 12:57 PM	#12
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Rock on!

12-14-2004, 12:59 PM	#14
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Wow, 5 days after two pretty big bug reports and he's already got a patch out. Jim, your level of customer service is second to none.

12-14-2004, 01:02 PM	#15
Kozure High School JV Join Date: Apr 2004	very nice Mark - RNFL Commish

12-14-2004, 01:08 PM	#17
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Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Answered my own question. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

12-14-2004, 01:09 PM	#19
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Looks like by saving the game again, it will track forward in an existing career. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

12-14-2004, 01:10 PM	#20
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Great stuff. Thanks.

12-14-2004, 01:17 PM	#25
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Wow awesome and fast work Jim, could you believe guys that i have been surfing the forum for 40 minutes without noticing this patch until i received an email from the NAFL about it?? i need a doctor to take a look at my eyes. Btw, as Jim keeps adding fantastic stuff each time he fixes a bug like the new rings tracking... mybe we should look again to see if we can find another one __________________

12-14-2004, 01:19 PM	#26
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Holy ungodly salary on that guy, SkyDog.

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12-14-2004, 01:33 PM	#29
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Wow, love the tracking of rings, something I've really been looking forward to. Thanks a lot Jim, you just never let us quit eh? Some little new thing always make me play again.

12-14-2004, 01:35 PM	#31
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Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Seriously... with all the updates that have occurred... this should be a paid release... I feel guilty taking this for free.

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12-14-2004, 01:45 PM	#35
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	jim, i know another person just adding "thanks" gets lost in the shuffle, but i'll add my extreme gratitude. even though there were questions that this was even a bug, you had it looked into and tweaked in less than 2 days. that is simply amazing. there is no other word to use. thanks again.

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TredWel High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Old Forge, PA	Wow. Thanks very much for looking at and fixing this problem in such quick fashion. __________________ There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people...religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin. - Linus Van Pelt

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Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	The entire USFL is thankful __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

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12-14-2004, 02:17 PM	#42
Gallifrey High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle, Washington	And I should add thanks! Now if I had just won my championship game...rings for all!

12-14-2004, 02:31 PM	#43
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	i asked for championship rings forEVER (remember this?) now it's here. now a dilemma. continue 60 year career, or start over. :/

12-14-2004, 02:33 PM	#44
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	start over __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

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Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	can i get an updated player file? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

12-14-2004, 03:01 PM	#49
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Thanks, Jim!

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