All-Time Film Actor/Actress Draft

[WSUCougar]

Okay, given the interests of FOFC (beyond the obvious, sports), I thought it might be cool to have an all-time draft of movie talent.

This will be a 10-round, serpentine-style draft, with 12 teams to fill.

Participants, in draft order:

Splitpersonality1 (1.1) Director: Alfred Hitchcock
WSUCougar (1.2) Actor/Drama: Jimmy Stewart
NoMyths (1.3) Actor/Drama: Jack Nicholson
3Ric (1.4) Actress/Romance: Katherine Hepburn
oykib (1.5) Musical: Bing Crosby
Calis (1.6) Director: Stanley Kubrick
Karim (1.7) Actor/Action: Harrison Ford
Sloan (1.8) Director: Charlie Chaplin
Shorty3281 (1.9) Actor/Drama: Al Pacino
Barkeep49 (1.10) Actor/Drama: Robert DeNiro
Ntndeacon (1.11) Director: Billy Wilder
Sun Tzu (1.12) Actor/Action: John Wayne
---2nd Round---
Sun Tzu (2.13) Actor/Drama: Marlon Brando
Ntndeacon (2.14) Actress/Romance: Audrey Hepburn
Barkeep49 (2.15) Supporting Actor: Peter Lorre
Shorty3281 (2.16) Supporting Actor: Kevin Spacey
Sloan (2.17) Director: Steven Spielberg
Karim (2.18) Actress/Drama: Meryl Streep
Calis (2.19) Actor/Drama: Humphrey Bogart
Oykib (2.20) Actor/Action: Clint Eastwood
3Ric (2.21) Actor/comedy: Marx Brothers
NoMyths (2.22) Director: Orson Welles
WSUCougar (2.23) Actress/Romance: Marilyn Monroe
Splitpersonality1 (2.24) Actress/Drama: Elizabeth Taylor
---3rd Round---
Splitpersonality1 (3.25) Musical: Judy Garland
WSUCougar (3.26) Supporting Actor: Morgan Freeman
NoMyths (3.27) Actor/Comedy: Jack Lemmon
3Ric (3.28) Actor/Action: Steve McQueen
oykib (3.29) Supporting Actor: Robert Duval
Calis (3.30)Actor/comedy: Cary Grant
Karim (3.31) Actor/Drama: Gregory Peck
Sloan (3.32) Actress/Drama: Ingrid Bergman
Shorty3281 (3.33) Actor/Comedy: Brad Pitt
Barkeep49 (3.34) Actress/Romance: Ginger Rogers
Ntndeacon (3.35) Actress/Drama: Bette Davis
Sun Tzu (3.36) Best Supporting Actor: Anthony Hopkins
---4th Round---
Sun Tzu (4.37) Actor/Comedy: The Three Stooges
Ntndeacon (4.38) Actress/Comedy: Carole Lombard
Barkeep49 (4.39) Musical: Gene Kelly
Shorty3281 (4.40) Director: Quentin Tarentino
Sloan (4.41) Actor/Drama: Sir Lawrence Olivier
Karim (4.42) Musical: Fred Astaire
Calis (4.43) Musical: Doris Day
Oykib (4.44) Director: William Wyler
3Ric (4.45) Actress/comedy: Shirley MacLaine
NoMyths (4.46) Actor/action: Sir Sean Connery
WSUCougar (4.47) Actor/comedy: Peter Sellers
Splitpersonality1 (4.48) Actor/action: Charlton Heston
---5th Round---
Splitpersonality1 (5.49) Supporting actor: Gene Hackman
WSUCougar (5.50) Actress/drama: Nicole Kidman
NoMyths (5.51) Supporting Actor: Paul Newman
3Ric (5.52) Musical: Julie Andrews
Oykib (5.53) Actress/Romance: Grace Kelly
Calis (5.54) Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper
Karim (5.55) Actress (comedy): Lucille Ball
Sloan (5.56) Actor/action: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Shorty3281 (5.57) Actor/action: Samuel L. Jackson
Barkeep49 (5.58) Director: Akira Kurosawa
Ntndeacon (5.59) Musical: Maurice Chevalier
Sun Tzu (5.60) Director: Mel Brooks
---6th Round---
Sun Tzu (6.61) Musical: Yul Brynner
Ntndeacon (6.62) Supporting Actress: Maggie Smith
Barkeep49 (6.63) Actor/action: Errol Flynn
Shorty3281 (6.64) Actress/drama: Julia Roberts
Sloan (6.65) Supporting Actor: Benicio Del Toro
Karim (6.66) Director: Ingmar Bergman
Calis (6.67) Actress/comedy: Madelaine Kahn
Oykib (6.68) Supporting Actress: Olivia de Havilland
3Ric (6.69) Director: David Lean
NoMyths (6.70) Musical: Frank Sinatra
WSUCougar (6.71) Actress/comedy: Lily Tomlin
Splitpersonality1 (6.72) Actress/romance: Meg Ryan
---7th Round---
Splitpersonality1 (7.73) Supporting Actress: Judi Dench
WSUCougar (7.74) Actor/action: Mel Gibson
NoMyths (7.75) Actress/Drama: Ellen Burstyn
3Ric (7.76) Actress/Drama: Jodi Foster
Oykib (7.77) Actor/Comedy: Jerry Lewis
Calis (7.78) Actress/Drama: Julianne Moore
Karim (7.79) Supporting Actor: Sir Alec Guiness
Sloan (7.80) Supporting Actress: Holly Hunter
Shorty3281 (7.81)
Barkeep49 (7.82) Actor/Comedy: Walter Matthau
ntndeacon (7.83) Actor/Comedy: Buster Keaton
Sun Tzu (7.84) Actress/Comedy: Roseanne
---8th Round---
Sun Tzu (8.85) Supporting Actress: Mary Steenburgen
ntndeacon (8.86) Actor/action: Douglas Fairbanks
Barkeep49 (8.87) Rita Hayworth
Shorty3281 (8.88)
Sloan (8.89)
Karim (8.90) Actor/comedy: Steve Martin
Calis (8.91) Supporting Actress: Shelley Winters
oykib (8.92) Actress/comedy: Bette Midler
3Ric (8.93) Supporting Actor: Dustin Hoffman
NoMyths (8.94) Jessica Lange
WSUCougar (8.95) Musical: James Cagney
Splitpersonality1 (8.96) Actor/Drama: Sidney Poitier
---9th Round---
Splitpersonality1 (9.97) Actor/comedy: Gene Wilder
WSUCougar (9.98) Supporting Actress: Sigourney Weaver
NoMyths (9.99) Actress/comedy: Renee Zellweger
3Ric (9.100) Supporting Actress: Anjelica Huston
Oykib (9.101) Actor/Drama: Denzel Washington
Calis (9.102) Actor/Action: Sylvester Stallone
Karim (9.103) Actress/Romance: Sophia Loren
Sloan (9.104)
Shorty3281 (9.105)
Barkeep49 (9.106) Actress/comedy: Claudette Colbert
ntndeacon (9.107) Supporting Actor: Walter Huston
Sun Tzu (9.108)
---10th Round---
Sun Tzu (10.109)
ntndeacon (10.110) Actor/drama: Spencer Tracy
Barkeep49 (10.111) Supporting actress: Marcia Gay Harden
Shorty3281 (10.112)
Sloan (10.113)
Karim (10.114) Supporting Actress: Annette Bening
Calis (10.115) Actress/romance: Greta Garbo
Oykib (10.116) Actress/drama: Jane Fonda
3Ric (10.117) Actor/drama: Tom Hanks
NoMyths (10.118) Actress (Romance): Asia Carrera
WSUCougar (10.119) Director: John Ford
Splitpersonality1 (10.120) Actress/comedy:Whoopi Goldberg
---END---

Judges:

BishopMVP
GoldenScribeGuy
Coffee Warlord

Categories & Who's Been Drafted:

Actor (drama):
Jimmy Stewart (WSUCougar), Jack Nicholson (NoMyths), Al Pacino (Shorty3281), Robert DeNiro (BarKeep49), Marlon Brando (Sun Tzu), Humphrey Bogart (Calis), Gregory Peck (Karim), Sir Lawrence Olivier (Sloan), Sidney Poitier (SplitP), Denzel Washington (oykib), Spencer Tracy (ntndeacon), Tom Hanks (3Ric)

Actor (action):
Harrison Ford (Karim), John Wayne (Sun Tzu), Clint Eastwood (oykib), Steve McQueen (3Ric), Sir Sean Connery (NoMyths), Charlton Heston (SplitP), Arnold Schwarzenegger (Sloan), Samuel L. Jackson (Shorty3281), Errol Flynn (Barkeep49), Mel Gibson (WSUCougar), Douglas Fairbanks (ntndeacon), Sylvester Stallone (Calis)

Actor (comedy):
Charlie Chaplin (Sloan), Marx Brothers (3Ric), Jack Lemmon (NoMyths), Cary Grant (Calis), Brad Pitt (Shorty3281), The Three Stooges (Sun Tzu), Peter Sellers (WSUCougar), Jerry Lewis (oykib), Walter Matthau (Barkeep49), Buster Keaton (ntndeacon), Steve Martin (Karim), Gene Wilder (SplitP)

Actress (drama):
Meryl Streep (Karim), Elizabeth Taylor (SplitP), Ingrid Bergman (Sloan), Bette Davis (ntndeacon), Nicole Kidman (WSUCougar), Julia Roberts (Shorty3281), Ellen Burstyn (NoMyths), Jodi Foster (3Ric), Julianne Moore (Calis), Jane Fonda (oykib)

Actress (romance):
Katherine Hepburn (3Ric), Audrey Hepburn (ntndeacon), Marilyn Monroe (WSUCougar), Ginger Rogers (Barkeep49), Grace Kelly (oykib), Meg Ryan (SplitP), Sophia Loren (Karim), Greta Garbo (Calis), Asia Carrera (NoMyths)

Actress (comedy): Carole Lombard (ntndeacon), Shirley MacLaine (3Ric), Lucille Ball (Karim), Madelaine Kahn (Calis), Lily Tomlin (WSUCougar), Roseanne (Sun Tzu), Bette Midler (oykib), Renee Zellweger (NoMyths), Claudette Colbert (Barkeep49), Whoopi Goldberg (SplitP)

Actor/actress (musical):
Bing Crosby (oykib), Judy Garland (SplitP), Gene Kelly (Barkeep49), Fred Astaire (Karim), Doris Day (Calis), Julie Andrews (3Ric), Maurice Chevalier (ntndeacon), Yul Brenner (Sun Tzu), Frank Sinatra (NoMyths), James Cagney (WSUCougar)

Supporting Actor:
Peter Lorre (Barkeep49), Kevin Spacey (Shorty3281), Morgan Freeman (WSUCougar), Robert Duval (oykib), Anthony Hopkins (Sun Tzu). Gene Hackman (SplitP), Paul Newman (NoMyths), Chris Cooper (Calis), Benicio Del Toro (Sloan), Sir Alec Guiness (Karim), Dustin Hoffman (3Ric), Walter Huston (ntndeacon)

Supporting Actress: Maggie Smith (ntndeacon), Judi Dench (SplitP), Holly Hunter (Sloan), Mary Steenburgen (Sun Tzu), Shelley Winters (Calis), Jessica Lange (NoMyths), Sigourney Weaver (WSUCougar), Anjelica Huston (3Ric), Marcia Gay Harden (Barkeep49), Annette Bening (Karim), Olivia de Havilland (oykib)

Director:
Alfred Hitchcock (SplitP), Stanley Kubrick (Calis), Billy Wilder (ntndeacon), Steven Spielberg (Sloan), Orson Welles (NoMyths), Quentin Tarentino (Shorty3281), William Wyler (oykib), Akira Kurosawa (Barkeep49), Mel Brooks (Sun Tzu), Ingmar Bergman (Karim), David Lean (3Ric), John Ford (WSUCougar)

[3ric]

I'm in!

[NoMyths]

I'm in.

[BishopMVP]

I thought about this, but figured it would be more interesting to do movie characters rather than the actors themselves. For instance, choose Kazaam instead of Shaq. I'm too busy the next couple days, but good luck.

[JAG]

I hope people who haven't seen The Usual Suspects are not reading this thread.

[GoSeahawks]

Originally Posted by JAG

I hope people who haven't seen The Usual Suspects are not reading this thread.

No kidding. Way to give away the ending

[NoMyths]

Bah...there's a year grace period on twist endings, but after that it's fair game.

[Calis]

This sounds like a good one for debating..count me in.

[SplitPersonality1]

I am soooooo in this thing.

Great idea WSUCougar.

[Barkeep49]

I'd love to participate.

[ntndeacon]

I want in for this!!

[Primal]

Whos going to pick Shaq for best actor?

[ntndeacon]

Shhh I was planning on Steel for best movie!

[WSUCougar]

Ok, six participants so far.

I had a follow-up idea: if we get more than 10 interested folks, the ones who don't get randomly selected can be analysts of the selections and then judges for the best overall team. An FOFC Film Academy, of sorts.

[BishopMVP]

I couldn't do a snake draft, but I'd love to judge.

[Vince]

Heh, I was thinking about this. I don't want to participate, I have too much on my plate already with the baseball, football and video game drafts. But I'll be following along closely

[GoldenScribeGuy]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Ok, six participants so far.

I had a follow-up idea: if we get more than 10 interested folks, the ones who don't get randomly selected can be analysts of the selections and then judges for the best overall team. An FOFC Film Academy, of sorts.

As the resident movie expert in FOFC-land, I will like to become the charter member of the FOFC Film Academy.

[Sloan]

I'm in if there is still room.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'll be on the board of directors for the FOFC Film Academy. GSG is of course, the chairman.

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by Sloan

I'm in if there is still room.

Yup. We'll have a random selection of the 10 if we get more than 10 entrants.

[Bubba Wheels]

I be in!!

[WSUCougar]

Bump for the evening crowd and my native West Coasters

[Barkeep49]

BTW I would much prefer a comedic actor and actress (seperate) with one gender neutral category for supporting.

Also I think we should get rid of drafting movies. That seems like a different draft. Perhaps add another director? Worse actor/actress? Child actor/actress? Keep the seperate categories for supporting?

[Karim]

I think the Best Pictures category should be expanded to at least 3, if not 5. There are just too many genres to narrow it down.

I'm in as long as we're given a decent time frame to get our votes in; I'm only at the computer late in the evenings.

[oykib]

Me. Me! ME!!!

I want in.

[corbes]

I'll either draft, or be on the Peanut Gallery Committee.

This sounds fun.

[Sun Tzu]

You can count me in.

[WSUCougar]

Updated.

Anyone else want to comment on Barkeep49's suggestions for categories?

Edit: I kind of like the idea of Worst Actor/Actress.

[Sun Tzu]

I agree with him regarding taking out movies. That should be an entirely different draft in itself, possibly with all of the movies broken up into categories.

I like the idea of child actor/acctress. Worst actor/actress I don't like though, unless we had to choose a horrible acting job from a major motion picture. There have been thousands of horrible acting jobs in B movies that nobody has seen. So including a worst category would probably just result in people drafting a person nobody has heard of in a movie that 5 people saw.

Seperating actor/actress for comedic role is also a good idea. Keep one director though.

[Sun Tzu]

Also another idea for a category would be "actor/actress in musical". Musicals have died off a bit as of late, with the one exception being Chicago. But I can think of at least 10 combined actors/actresses who are deserving of being including in this draft.

[WSUCougar]

Okay, we've got our group. Since the number of participants is close to the target, lets go with 12 teams and 3 judges. I will add myself to the panel of the judges for commentary, but will only cast a final vote in the event of a 3-way tie.

I'll post the draft order in the initial post up top once we finalize our categories.

[Sun Tzu]

Here is my proposal for final categories -

Actor (drama)
Actor (action)
Actress (romance)
Actress (drama)
Actor (comedy)
Actress (comedy)
Actor/Actress (musical)
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Director

10 categories

I do have one question. Are we selecting people based on a single role? For example "I select so and so from the movie blah blah". Or are we selecting people just overal based on their careers.

[Barkeep49]

I like Sun Tzu's categories alright except I would much prefer
Supporting Actor/Actress
Child Actor

There are, in my mind at least, simply not enough "great" Supporting Actors/Actresses simply because if they're great they normally become a lead.

I was under the impression that we were selecting a body of work and not a single performance. Seems to easy if we do single performance.

[WSUCougar]

My intention was for their body of work, not one specific role or film.

Personally, I think there is plenty of room for both supporting actor & actress, so let's keep that a separate category (sorry, Barkeep ).

My revised proposal for categories:

Actor (drama)
Actor (action)
Actor (comedy)
Actress (drama)
Actress (romance)
Actress (comedy)
Child Actor
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Director

[Sun Tzu]

Looks good to me. As long as everybody else is ok with it, and I don't see why they wouldn't be, I say lets roll.

btw I plum forgot to include child actor

[Sloan]

Looks good to me

[NoMyths]

Looks fine to me.

[corbes]

what's the age range on "child actors"?

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by corbes

what's the age range on "child actors"?

How about pre-teen?

[Sun Tzu]

I guess when they hit the teen years? Maybe 14-15?

*Edit* that's what I meant. Once they hit the teens they are no longer child actors.

[NoMyths]

Being as how there have only been a handful of actors/actresses nominated for Academy Awards that weren't at least in their 20's, I'd suggest 18+ as a good cutoff for child acting. I realize that might not sit well with some of our younger folks around here, but hey...I honestly can't think of anyone under 12 who deserves any kind of acting award for a body of work.

[Sun Tzu]

mmk. I agree with that logic after hearing NoMyths say it.

[corbes]

under 18 when they made their first movie? or under 18 now?

[Sun Tzu]

First movie.

[NoMyths]

Either, actually.

[NoMyths]

dola...

That said, there are exceptions. Jodie Foster was under 18 when she made her first film, and she has been critically acclaimed since then. I'm more referring to our current crop of under 18 actors.

[NoMyths]

dola tres...

I suppose, in the end, I'm just not a fan of child acting as a category after all.

[Sun Tzu]

I agree again with Myths. When do you plan to get this thing rolling Cougar?

[corbes]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

dola...

That said, there are exceptions. Jodie Foster was under 18 when she made her first film, and she has been critically acclaimed since then. I'm more referring to our current crop of under 18 actors.

that's what I mean. Not to be a spoiler (and this really shouldn't be a spoiler) but what about someone like River Phoenix? Macaulay Culkin?

[corbes]

dola-

I really like the idea of this, but the ice and snow in Philadelphia has really affected my schedule, and I can't promise that I'll have the time to commit to this, so I'll have to bow out early.

I'll be checking in on the results, though...