Lion Runningbacks

HarringtonDynasty · 05-17-2003, 05:37 AM

Artose Pinner, Luke Staley, James Stewart, Rafeal Cooper, Autry Denson, Shawn Bryson, Avon Coburn; Who will win the Lion Job this season...ofcourse this is of momentus importance considering the certainty that the Lions will be contenders....lets bat this around....Ill throw out the healed Doak Walker award winner Luke...Marucci likes him.

ice4277 · 05-17-2003, 08:54 AM

I think its strange because all these guys have the potential to make an NFL roster, but I don't think that any of them will be much more than an average NFL back. Here's my thoughts:

Artose Pinner: I still wish the Lions would have taken Onterrio Smith instead of him in the fourth round, but from what I've heard, he should be good if he comes back ok from his ankle injury. Still a toss-up, but the potential is there.

Luke Staley: Still has the potential to be the steal of the 2002 draft. Lions took a flyer on him in the seventh round, but he was (guess what) injured last year in training camp and couldn't play. Supposedly he's ok this year; I'm not holding my breath, but if he can stay healthy he definitely has the talent to be a strong number 2/third down back. Could be real good in a couple years.

James Stewart: Will be the Lions starter going into the season, but this will probably be his last year with the team. Had a solid season last year, very consistent, but I think the Lions are looking for somebody with more breakout speed and quickness. Pinner et al will be given every chance to win his job away from him this fall.

Rafael Cooper: Local guy, undrafted last year, played in a couple games when Stewart was hurt. Showed flashes but with the improved depth at the position now, I think he will be lucky to make the practice squad.

Autry Denson: Supposedly looking pretty good in NFL-Europe, but, like with Cooper, it will be tough to make this team. Practice squad maybe.

Shawn Bryson: To me, the most intriguing name on this list. Got a lot of solid playing time in Buffalo before he was hurt. If he's back ok from his injuries, I think he may end up being the starter before the season's done.

Avon Coburn: Speedy little guy from W. Virginia, picked up after going undrafted; is the kind of guy the Lions like to cut who then goes to another team and gets some solid playing time. Needs a big training camp to earn a job here, but even if he doesn't stick with Detroit, he'll be in the league this season.

So if I had to set a depth chart at RB, it would look like this, at least going into the season:

1. Stewart
2. Bryson
3. Staley (as a third-down back)
4. Pinner

Then add one, possibly two, of Cooper, Denson, and Coburn to either the practice squad, or possibly a fifth RB. Keep in mind I didn't take into account their special teams abilities so I may be leaving something out in regards to that.

cmp · 05-17-2003, 09:08 AM

I agree with ice. Stewart will be the starter and Bryson the backup. If Staley and Pinner can show they can play they could compete for some time with Bryson. But I expect Stewart to keep his job the entire season. But anyone of them will probably get a chance if Stewart gets hurt again.

cmp · 05-17-2003, 09:09 AM

Dola

Or we could sign Allen Iverson. He showed some nice moves as a running back last night. He tucked the ball under his arm and wouldn't let go of it and stiff armed his way to the basket. Better then Stewart could do.

mrbuttercup · 05-17-2003, 11:47 AM

HAHA I AGREE WITH GOLD, IVERSON WOULD BE A GREAT RUNNING BACK!!!

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-17-2003, 07:16 PM

Autry Denson is a good quality RB ....Just needs some play time .
Should have gone inthe first round a few years back but did horrible in the 40 yard .

RonnieDobbs · 05-17-2003, 07:29 PM

Well did you get it?

tucker342 · 05-17-2003, 10:02 PM

I will, cause they all suck

Actually Stewart will probably get it.

JeeberD · 05-17-2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrbuttercup
HAHA I AGREE WITH GOLD, IVERSON WOULD BE A GREAT RUNNING BACK!!!

Actually, Iverson was an all state QB back in high school. Who knows, if AI had chosen football over basketball Vick might have been considerd an Iverson clone rather than then The Hot New Thing...

HarringtonDynasty · 05-17-2003, 10:55 PM

Ice's breakdown is fair, however, I think in the second half of the season, we are looking at Pinner v. Staley. Both are better fits for the West Coast Offense. Pinner can block and catch better than Ontario (chunuch) Smith and should be servicable by mid season. I am also more optomistic about the back situation this year...someone is gonna surface...and when he does..he wont be weened in...but thrown in....they need to win quick...Millen has a bullseye on his head.

Swaggs · 05-18-2003, 12:00 AM

Cobourne is a complete back that lacks only breakaway speed. Over 5000 career yards rushing on teams that did not always have a great O-line, a great leader, solid receiver, and outstanding vs the pass rush. I was shocked that he was not drafted within the first five rounds, but I still think he will play 6-10 years in the NFL. I hope he gets an opportunity.

Schmidty · 05-18-2003, 12:10 AM

I have nothing to add to this thread, other than to say "Up with Luke Staley!!! War Lions!!! Out...."

05-17-2003, 07:16 PM	#6
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Autry Denson is a good quality RB ....Just needs some play time . Should have gone inthe first round a few years back but did horrible in the 40 yard . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-17-2003, 07:29 PM	#7
RonnieDobbs High School JV Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA	Well did you get it? __________________ ----------------------------------------- Lookin' forward to great seasons from my 'Skins, Cubbies, and Red Sox (please humor me) Proud Manager of the BOSTON WYCKYD SCEPTRE Also attempting to Right The Ship with the Clippers

05-18-2003, 12:00 AM	#11
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Cobourne is a complete back that lacks only breakaway speed. Over 5000 career yards rushing on teams that did not always have a great O-line, a great leader, solid receiver, and outstanding vs the pass rush. I was shocked that he was not drafted within the first five rounds, but I still think he will play 6-10 years in the NFL. I hope he gets an opportunity. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

05-18-2003, 12:10 AM	#12
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I have nothing to add to this thread, other than to say "Up with Luke Staley!!! War Lions!!! Out...." __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

05-17-2003, 08:54 AM	#2
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	I think its strange because all these guys have the potential to make an NFL roster, but I don't think that any of them will be much more than an average NFL back. Here's my thoughts: Artose Pinner: I still wish the Lions would have taken Onterrio Smith instead of him in the fourth round, but from what I've heard, he should be good if he comes back ok from his ankle injury. Still a toss-up, but the potential is there. Luke Staley: Still has the potential to be the steal of the 2002 draft. Lions took a flyer on him in the seventh round, but he was (guess what) injured last year in training camp and couldn't play. Supposedly he's ok this year; I'm not holding my breath, but if he can stay healthy he definitely has the talent to be a strong number 2/third down back. Could be real good in a couple years. James Stewart: Will be the Lions starter going into the season, but this will probably be his last year with the team. Had a solid season last year, very consistent, but I think the Lions are looking for somebody with more breakout speed and quickness. Pinner et al will be given every chance to win his job away from him this fall. Rafael Cooper: Local guy, undrafted last year, played in a couple games when Stewart was hurt. Showed flashes but with the improved depth at the position now, I think he will be lucky to make the practice squad. Autry Denson: Supposedly looking pretty good in NFL-Europe, but, like with Cooper, it will be tough to make this team. Practice squad maybe. Shawn Bryson: To me, the most intriguing name on this list. Got a lot of solid playing time in Buffalo before he was hurt. If he's back ok from his injuries, I think he may end up being the starter before the season's done. Avon Coburn: Speedy little guy from W. Virginia, picked up after going undrafted; is the kind of guy the Lions like to cut who then goes to another team and gets some solid playing time. Needs a big training camp to earn a job here, but even if he doesn't stick with Detroit, he'll be in the league this season. So if I had to set a depth chart at RB, it would look like this, at least going into the season: 1. Stewart 2. Bryson 3. Staley (as a third-down back) 4. Pinner Then add one, possibly two, of Cooper, Denson, and Coburn to either the practice squad, or possibly a fifth RB. Keep in mind I didn't take into account their special teams abilities so I may be leaving something out in regards to that.

05-17-2003, 09:08 AM	#3
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	I agree with ice. Stewart will be the starter and Bryson the backup. If Staley and Pinner can show they can play they could compete for some time with Bryson. But I expect Stewart to keep his job the entire season. But anyone of them will probably get a chance if Stewart gets hurt again.

05-17-2003, 09:09 AM	#4
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Dola Or we could sign Allen Iverson. He showed some nice moves as a running back last night. He tucked the ball under his arm and wouldn't let go of it and stiff armed his way to the basket. Better then Stewart could do.

05-17-2003, 11:47 AM	#5
mrbuttercup In The Penalty Box Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	HAHA I AGREE WITH GOLD, IVERSON WOULD BE A GREAT RUNNING BACK!!!

05-17-2003, 10:02 PM	#8
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	I will, cause they all suck Actually Stewart will probably get it.

05-17-2003, 10:55 PM	#10
HarringtonDynasty In The Penalty Box Join Date: May 2003 Location: MI	Ice's breakdown is fair, however, I think in the second half of the season, we are looking at Pinner v. Staley. Both are better fits for the West Coast Offense. Pinner can block and catch better than Ontario (chunuch) Smith and should be servicable by mid season. I am also more optomistic about the back situation this year...someone is gonna surface...and when he does..he wont be weened in...but thrown in....they need to win quick...Millen has a bullseye on his head.

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