OT: Penn and Teller: Bullshit

sachmo71 · 01-30-2003, 09:44 PM

Just saw this show on Showtime. Each week they will dispel a "paranormal" myth. This week was psychics, and next week will be reflexology. Interesting show...you can tell it's something they really feel strongly about. I think I'll give it a try. If debunking myths is your cup of tea, I would recommend it!

Qwikshot · 01-30-2003, 09:49 PM

I love when Penn and Teller appear on the Simpsons and Teller speaks and becomes filled with fear and tells Homer that he's not the first Teller...funny.

QuikSand · 01-31-2003, 09:16 AM

Here's a link to the show's schedule, for those interested...

http://www.sho.com/ptbs/schedule.cfm

Radii · 01-31-2003, 09:46 AM

Thanks

Definitely looking forward to this. I saw them live a few years ago and they were amazing, a few serious moments where you can tell they really do feel strongly about the occasional serious topic they touch on. They are by far my favorite comedy act around.

sachmo71 · 01-31-2003, 10:07 AM

They didn't do their act in the show that I saw. It was more like Penn and Teller doing an exposé.

KWhit · 01-31-2003, 10:14 AM

Should be a very cool show. By the way, did you guys catch their Super-Bowl prediction?

Before the game, they had written down the Super Bowl score and the MVP on a sheet of paper (that was then signed on the outside by some football commentator (I don't remember who it was). Then they put it in a jar of pickles and suspended it 20 feet in the air in the middle of times square in front of tons of people.

Once the game was over, they had some guy from the audience break the jar open and get the piece of paper. Of course, everything on it was correct.

Of course it was a trick, but it was still very cool - and I have no idea how they did it.

QuikSand · 01-31-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by KWhit
Then they put it in a jar of pickles...

There's the real genius. Good magic is about 1/3 sleight-of-hand and 2/3 showmanship. Jar of pickles... gold!

Marmel · 01-31-2003, 02:05 PM

That was gold, and so perfectly fitting for Penn & Teller........well, I would have suspected a jar of maggots from them, but pickles is good enough.

Anrhydeddu · 01-31-2003, 02:07 PM

I thought it was very obvious. I told my wife while we were watching is to keep on eye on the rolled up paper. Sure enough, when the black guy gave the paper to the lady, P&T moved to the left of the screen. But watching her, she put the paper in a purse/bag behind a program/magazine she was holding. Then when P&T asked for it (after getting the sledgehammer?), she reached in her bag of some sort and pulled out the switched paper. You weren't supposed to have seen that but the black guy was actually pointing his finger to the bag as she pulled the paper out again. I have found, after watching the Masked Magician et al, is never let the magician/illusionist distract your attention away from the object(s).

rkmsuf · 01-31-2003, 02:12 PM

I liked the Masked Magician a lot...very informative. I always try to ruin the tricks by disecting the method.

01-31-2003, 08:50 PM

.Saw the premier last week. Thumbs up. Will definitely tune in on a regular basis.

Jets80 · 01-31-2003, 09:23 PM

Penn and Teller suck!

and what the hell does debunking myths mean ?

sabotai · 01-31-2003, 09:23 PM

I loved how they pulled the trick with having one of the psychics they were critisizing be a skeptic/performer. And in the tapings, he did no worse than the ones claiming to be psycics. Just goes to show you...it's all an act.

And how about the waiver people have to sign in order to by on Van Praag's show?

sabotai · 01-31-2003, 09:24 PM

dola:

"and what the hell does debunking myths mean ?"

It's really debunking what a lot of people beleive to be true.

Jets80 · 01-31-2003, 09:27 PM

What if i dont beleive it. then its just two idiots..one of which just won't say anything.

QuikSand · 01-31-2003, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jets80
What if i dont beleive it. then its just two idiots.

Some might say you just missed the count.

QuikSand · 01-31-2003, 10:34 PM

Just saw the episode on alternative medicine. It's always funny to see how people will go along and heckle the magnet therapists and reflexologists... but when it comes to something more widespread like "chiropractic," things go south a bit.

Overall, I basically like the tone, and definitely love the concept.

Did anyone else notice that one of the four writers was named John McLaughlin? (not sure about spelling) Can't be the same guy...

bigdawg2003 · 01-31-2003, 10:51 PM

QS

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

sabotai · 02-01-2003, 09:55 AM

QS, I agree.

I also think what makes this show good is that they don't just debunk these things, they actually go out and do it themselves to show people that it really is bullshit.

ratpfink · 02-10-2003, 09:18 PM

Oh my, did anyone see the 3rd show where they go to a UFO convention? Holy freakshow, batman!
I guess I was kind of surprised that that many people could be so out of touch with reality...

sachmo71 · 02-10-2003, 09:46 PM

I'm really enjoying the series.

sabotai · 02-10-2003, 10:16 PM

I missed that because where I was does not get Showtime. But they'll repeat it so I'll see it then.

Atocep · 07-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Anyone still watch?

An episode about violent video games aired last night that was very good. They did a great job showing the flaws in the studies done and made Jack Thompson look like a dumbass (not that hard, I know).

I enjoyed the Astrology episode last week as well. I thought the Orgasms episode was one of the worst they've done and was worried the show was headed downhill.

01-30-2003, 09:49 PM	#2
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	I love when Penn and Teller appear on the Simpsons and Teller speaks and becomes filled with fear and tells Homer that he's not the first Teller...funny. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

01-31-2003, 02:05 PM	#8
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	That was gold, and so perfectly fitting for Penn & Teller........well, I would have suspected a jar of maggots from them, but pickles is good enough. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

01-31-2003, 02:12 PM	#10
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I liked the Masked Magician a lot...very informative. I always try to ruin the tricks by disecting the method. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-31-2003, 10:51 PM	#18
bigdawg2003 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Austin, Texas, USA	QS WRONG!!!!!!!!!! __________________ I didn't even know Elvis was from Memphis. I thought he was from Tennessee.

02-10-2003, 09:18 PM	#20
ratpfink n00b Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Green Bay, WI	Oh my, did anyone see the 3rd show where they go to a UFO convention? Holy freakshow, batman! I guess I was kind of surprised that that many people could be so out of touch with reality... __________________ This sentence contains one error.

01-31-2003, 09:16 AM	#3
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Here's a link to the show's schedule, for those interested... http://www.sho.com/ptbs/schedule.cfm

01-31-2003, 09:46 AM	#4
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Thanks Definitely looking forward to this. I saw them live a few years ago and they were amazing, a few serious moments where you can tell they really do feel strongly about the occasional serious topic they touch on. They are by far my favorite comedy act around.

01-31-2003, 10:07 AM	#5
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	They didn't do their act in the show that I saw. It was more like Penn and Teller doing an exposé.

01-31-2003, 10:14 AM	#6
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Should be a very cool show. By the way, did you guys catch their Super-Bowl prediction? Before the game, they had written down the Super Bowl score and the MVP on a sheet of paper (that was then signed on the outside by some football commentator (I don't remember who it was). Then they put it in a jar of pickles and suspended it 20 feet in the air in the middle of times square in front of tons of people. Once the game was over, they had some guy from the audience break the jar open and get the piece of paper. Of course, everything on it was correct. Of course it was a trick, but it was still very cool - and I have no idea how they did it.

01-31-2003, 02:07 PM	#9
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	I thought it was very obvious. I told my wife while we were watching is to keep on eye on the rolled up paper. Sure enough, when the black guy gave the paper to the lady, P&T moved to the left of the screen. But watching her, she put the paper in a purse/bag behind a program/magazine she was holding. Then when P&T asked for it (after getting the sledgehammer?), she reached in her bag of some sort and pulled out the switched paper. You weren't supposed to have seen that but the black guy was actually pointing his finger to the bag as she pulled the paper out again. I have found, after watching the Masked Magician et al, is never let the magician/illusionist distract your attention away from the object(s).

01-31-2003, 08:50 PM	#11
couriers	.Saw the premier last week. Thumbs up. Will definitely tune in on a regular basis.

01-31-2003, 09:23 PM	#12
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	Penn and Teller suck! and what the hell does debunking myths mean ?

01-31-2003, 09:23 PM	#13
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I loved how they pulled the trick with having one of the psychics they were critisizing be a skeptic/performer. And in the tapings, he did no worse than the ones claiming to be psycics. Just goes to show you...it's all an act. And how about the waiver people have to sign in order to by on Van Praag's show?

01-31-2003, 09:24 PM	#14
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	dola: "and what the hell does debunking myths mean ?" It's really debunking what a lot of people beleive to be true.

01-31-2003, 09:27 PM	#15
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	What if i dont beleive it. then its just two idiots..one of which just won't say anything.

01-31-2003, 10:34 PM	#17
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Just saw the episode on alternative medicine. It's always funny to see how people will go along and heckle the magnet therapists and reflexologists... but when it comes to something more widespread like "chiropractic," things go south a bit. Overall, I basically like the tone, and definitely love the concept. Did anyone else notice that one of the four writers was named John McLaughlin? (not sure about spelling) Can't be the same guy...

02-01-2003, 09:55 AM	#19
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	QS, I agree. I also think what makes this show good is that they don't just debunk these things, they actually go out and do it themselves to show people that it really is bullshit.

02-10-2003, 09:46 PM	#21
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	I'm really enjoying the series.

02-10-2003, 10:16 PM	#22
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I missed that because where I was does not get Showtime. But they'll repeat it so I'll see it then.

07-10-2009, 05:25 PM	#23
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Anyone still watch? An episode about violent video games aired last night that was very good. They did a great job showing the flaws in the studies done and made Jack Thompson look like a dumbass (not that hard, I know). I enjoyed the Astrology episode last week as well. I thought the Orgasms episode was one of the worst they've done and was worried the show was headed downhill.

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