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Old 04-04-2007, 12:33 PM   #1
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Aw, crap, we're too late!

How long is their season again, like 7 weeks?
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:36 PM   #2
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:39 PM   #3
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The "best of 3" playoffs/finals always made me laugh. That's barely a playoff series in any other sport. They'd be better off just playing single elimination.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:40 PM   #4
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I think you meant "Mock WNBA Draft"
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:41 PM   #5
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:41 PM   #6
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:44 PM   #7
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:01 PM   #8
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Too bad Candice Parker didn't get to declare early. She wanted to, but that league won't let you join until you've been in college four years or you graduate. They kept trying to say last night during the women's championship that she had offers of over $1m in endorsements to play overseas.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:02 PM   #9
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:17 PM   #10
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Too bad Candice Parker didn't get to declare early. She wanted to, but that league won't let you join until you've been in college four years or you graduate. They kept trying to say last night during the women's championship that she had offers of over $1m in endorsements to play overseas.

Not sure what you're on about here. There were never any strong indications that she wanted out, if anything she knew that she needed to get stronger physically & improve her outside shooting consistency. Next year? Yeah, I'd say she's gone. But barring injury, she's only going to get better & those endorsement offers from Russia & Korea probably aren't going anywhere, plus she'll have the WNBA as option if she chooses to stay in the U.S.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:21 PM   #11
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Meanwhile, I thought it was interesting to see Ivory Latta slip all the way to the 10th pick (Nancy Liberman had her going 2nd overall).
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:30 PM   #12
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Meanwhile, I thought it was interesting to see Ivory Latta slip all the way to the 10th pick (Nancy Liberman had her going 2nd overall).

10th?! Wow. That's pretty crazy. She was one of the best players in the country all year.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:32 PM   #13
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Not sure what you're on about here. There were never any strong indications that she wanted out, if anything she knew that she needed to get stronger physically & improve her outside shooting consistency. Next year? Yeah, I'd say she's gone. But barring injury, she's only going to get better & those endorsement offers from Russia & Korea probably aren't going anywhere, plus she'll have the WNBA as option if she chooses to stay in the U.S.

I'm just saying that's what they were saying. I don't know that going overseas would have benefitted her at all. I just think the media was excited that there was a female player that excited them enough to talk that way at all.

Not that she had any real reason to leave or a ton to gain by NOT going to the WNBA, though admittedly it seems these players go from the big stage of college, to being engulfed by the anonymity of the WNBA year after year.

But she's a pretty special talent, no doubt about that.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:45 PM   #14
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:47 PM   #15
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I'm just saying that's what they were saying. I don't know that going overseas would have benefitted her at all.

Okay, I misread you then. I caught some of that talk early in the game last night but by the 2nd half, they were already backing away from the "she may be going" vibe they initially gave off.

As for Latta, I think her tournament performance may have hurt her stock somewhat (she actually went 11th, not 10th, I misspoke earlier), enough to drop her behind the scorer Geralds from Purdue (7th pick). The surprise to me is that a junior college guard was taken at #8. And another guard, from UCLA, was taken 5th.

I know that I would rather have had Harding, and unless I was specifically looking for a push-the-ball PG, I would rather have had Price among the guards as well. I didn't see the UCLA shooter enough to have an opinion on her, and no idea about the JUCO (who apparently had a great workout for the scouts). I think Latta will fit in as a player that Detroit coach Bill Laimbeer will like (although like him, I think most everybody else will end up hating her).
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:48 PM   #16
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I think you meant "Mock WNBA Draft"

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Old 04-04-2007, 01:48 PM   #17
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Too bad Candice Parker didn't get to declare early. She wanted to, but that league won't let you join until you've been in college four years or you graduate. They kept trying to say last night during the women's championship that she had offers of over $1m in endorsements to play overseas.

I found it more amazing that she had to declare my 10am on the day after the championship. Geez, give her some time to celebrate first. Why the mad rush for the WNBA draft to take place on a Wednesday?

(all this is assuming she was on course to graduate and the decision would be relevant)
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:23 PM   #18
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I found it more amazing that she had to declare my 10am on the day after the championship. Geez, give her some time to celebrate first. Why the mad rush for the WNBA draft to take place on a Wednesday?

(all this is assuming she was on course to graduate and the decision would be relevant)

I think the idea is to keep themselves in the "glow" of the women's tournament. Frankly, it's too late by the next day, though I can't think of any other time to do it.

This article talks about the whole WNBA and how the money isn't going to entice many to skip school.

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A player must meet one of four criteria to be eligible for the draft: Be 22 years old, graduate from college, complete her eligibility, or play at least two seasons for another professional league.

No player in the 11 years of the W.N.B.A. has left college early to join the league. Technicalities would allow Candace Parker of Tennessee and Sylvia Fowles of Louisiana State to enter the draft after their junior seasons, but both have said they would return to college for their senior seasons.

Under the league’s collective bargaining agreement, the first four players picked in Wednesday’s draft in Cleveland each will receive contracts worth $43,200 this season. The next four players will be paid $39,960 and the remaining five first-round picks will earn $35,640.

The minimum salary for a player with no more than three years of experience is $32,400, and $49,134 for players with four or more years. No player — rookie or veteran — may make more than $93,000, and each team’s payroll is capped at $728,000.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:24 PM   #19
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I found it more amazing that she had to declare my 10am on the day after the championship. Geez, give her some time to celebrate first. Why the mad rush for the WNBA draft to take place on a Wednesday? (all this is assuming she was on course to graduate and the decision would be relevant)

As for the Wednesday draft, I believe it's the WNBA trying to link up with the Final Four. Plus, their season starts in just a few weeks.

Meanwhile, Parker is not only on track for graduation but is actually ahead of schedule. From an espn.com article, explaining what the university detailed in a press release a few days ago

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Although she has two more years of NCAA eligibility, Parker is academically a junior and on track to graduate in December 2007. Jennings expects Parker will finish out the 2007-08 season as a graduate student.

WNBA rules prohibit players from entering the draft until their classes complete their senior year -- and Parker's classmates, juniors Alexis Hornbuckle and Nicky Anosike, won't graduate until May 2008.

edit to add: picking up on DC's mention of the salaries, from a Knoxville newspaper article
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A majority of WNBA players take advantage of the leagues overseas, which generally run from November until April. A player of Parker's caliber would generate an estimated $400,000 to $643,200 if she signed with the WNBA followed by a top-tier overseas contract.

And that doesn't count her possible endorsements, which could be the highest for any women's player in history.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:25 PM   #20
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wow. serious discussion of the WNBA. what is this board coming to?

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Old 04-04-2007, 03:28 PM   #21
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:36 PM   #22
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:12 AM   #23
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As for the Wednesday draft, I believe it's the WNBA trying to link up with the Final Four. Plus, their season starts in just a few weeks.

Understandable, but are they really capitalizing on the FF by drafting at 1PM on a Wednesday? You can't find a channel that will air it at 6? I only happened to come across it because I was working from home yesterday. Are WNBA fans home midday?

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I could've sworn that the "sideline reporter" the other night said she wasn't on track. That's what I was basing it on, so I could've misheard.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:21 AM   #24
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I could've sworn that the "sideline reporter" the other night said she wasn't on track. That's what I was basing it on, so I could've misheard.

I remember at least one mention about that, and it was sort of confusing. If it's the same one, it's where they mentioned the university's statement of their basic position that she was ineligible for the draft because the anticipated graduation based on her enrollment fell outside the WNBA rules. What could have made Parker's case interesting is that she's ahead of schedule academically & is a junior in terms of school but only a sophomore in terms of athletic eligibility (I think Fowles at LSU has a similar situation).

I got the feeling that the school wasn't really talking about Parker so much as they were sending a warning shot in the general direction of the league that they would challenge a draft declaration in a case like this if it came up again in the future
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:25 AM   #25
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Yep, that's what I heard. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:07 AM   #26
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Go Lynx, way to trade to get that number one pick...

Now maybe if they had done something like that a couple years ago to get Lindsey Whalen and Janelle McCarville, the only 2 female basketball players this state has ever heard of, they might have a few fans attending their games.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:09 PM   #27
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Candice Parker will fade from the bright lights and packed arena of Tennessee basketball to the obscurity of women's basketball. The LA Sparks picked her in the draft today with the first pick. At least she's going to be able to be showcased in a major market. Whether anyone will bother to watch is anyone's guess, but it's a shame if she ends up like all of the other players who were supposed to revitalize the game and make it worth watching. She's better than any of them, but it seems the WNBA is a black hole where these great players seem to go to fade into obscurity.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:11 PM   #28
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:15 PM   #29
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:19 PM   #30
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I'm shocked woman's professional basketball is popular anywhere(800k overseas?). Parker is the best player I've seen in awhile though.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:22 PM   #31
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A’Quonesia?

Sounds like amnesia caused by water.

And yes Dark Cloud, that chick I never heard of who went #1 overall will fade away now.

Also, I didn't even know Houston had a team until I looked at that list of draft picks.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:22 PM   #32
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Becky Hammon who plays for San Antonio will play for Russia in the Olympics. Interesting story.

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Old 04-09-2008, 04:23 PM   #33
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A’Quonesia?

Sounds like amnesia caused by water.

And yes Dark Cloud, that chick I never heard of who went #1 overall will fade away now.

Also, I didn't even know Houston had a team until I looked at that list of draft picks.

Well, Candice Parker is relatively well known if you're a Sportscenter watcher who follows college basketball with regularity, because she dunked in high school, has dunked in a few games and of course, has rounded out her game and is a bonafide star.
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The Comets won like the first four WNBA titles, surely you have heard that before Cringer.
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Interesting. I saw Hammon play back when I attended CSU...I always thought she was a heck of a player, and the Rams had a solid team back then.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:39 PM   #36
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Best part of today's draft was seeing all five eligible players from UT drafted and having both Parker & Bobbitt go to LA where they'll join last years RO Y (and former Lady Vol) Sidney Spencer. Also cool to have only the second player ever drafted from GT.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:43 PM   #37
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Why did Holsclaw retire? She was kind of a dissapointment in the WNBA anyways.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:49 PM   #38
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I'm shocked woman's professional basketball is popular anywhere(800k overseas?). Parker is the best player I've seen in awhile though.

Russian teams are throwing TONS of money to star players. To give you an idea, former Famila Schio forward and MVP of the last FIBA World Championship, Penny Taylor, made over 500k this year playing with Ekaterinburg. Consider that in Schio (one of the Italian's top team, couple of millions € of budget) she was making around 250k. Diana Taurasi is making that kind of money, maybe even more, in the Spartak Moscow Region. And these are only 2 examples.

It's perfectly reasonable to think that Candice Parker will land a very, very high contract from one of those clubs.
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Why did Holsclaw retire? She was kind of a dissapointment in the WNBA anyways.

IIRC, she had crippling mental illness.
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Maybe I just forgot about them, but it seems like I have never really heard of them. They won 4 in a row eh? I guess that is impressive. Still, I won't be trying to catch any of their games anytime soon. The Astros and the Dynamo though, I will make the 5 hour drive for that next month probably.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:32 PM   #42
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Candace Parker draft selection and a little montage of them talking about what she does well and all that. She's no joke.

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Old 04-09-2008, 08:47 PM   #43
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Umm..not very much. About 40-95k for the season, that's why so many of the stars go overseas where they can make six figures.

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There's a detailed post regarding WNBA salaries about 20 posts before yours.
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