The Copa America Thread

MrBug708 · 06-27-2007, 09:13 PM

Mexico is up 2-0 on Brazil thus far. Once again Mexico rises to the occaision when playing a great team after choking vs the US

Blade6119 · 06-27-2007, 09:22 PM

And if the US goes out and blows it, everyone outside of our region will forget we beat them in the gold cup

cthomer5000 · 06-27-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And if the US goes out and blows it, everyone outside of our region will forget we beat them in the gold cup

Yeah, even though we're sending a B-team and Mexico has the same squad at Copa America.

MrBug708 · 06-27-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Yeah, even though we're sending a B-team and Mexico has the same squad at Copa America.

They didnt gut their team like the US did, but they dont have the same squad either I dont believe

cthomer5000 · 06-27-2007, 09:53 PM

CONCACAF 4 LYFE

Critch · 06-27-2007, 10:05 PM

Main thing about tonight's game was that it showed Brazil can't play a B team and expect to win anything anymore. That was as bad a Brazil team as I've seen.

So far it's been 4 good games, but the refereeing and the atmosphere in the stadiums has been lacking.

cthomer5000 · 06-27-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Main thing about tonight's game was that it showed Brazil can't play a B team and expect to win anything anymore. That was as bad a Brazil team as I've seen.

So far it's been 4 good games, but the refereeing and the atmosphere in the stadiums has been lacking.

Im not too sure the offsides call wasnt right there. Hard to deny that a guy in the 8 yard box isnt interfering with the play.

Critch · 06-27-2007, 10:22 PM

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Im not too sure the offsides call wasnt right there. Hard to deny that a guy in the 8 yard box isnt interfering with the play.

Yeah, that one was at least defendable. The Peru and Chile offsides, plus the Venezuela last minute penalty were a bit more clear cut.

Mr. Wednesday · 06-27-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

They didnt gut their team like the US did, but they dont have the same squad either I dont believe

Borgetti and Guardado out due to injury
Pardo, Osorio, and Salcido (I think) out due to European demands
I might be missing one or two on top of that.

They probably have about the same number of starters from the Gold Cup final as we have, but I think they're closer to having their first-choice backups (which I guess is something of an oxymoron

).

Mr. Wednesday · 06-27-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Yeah, that one was at least defendable. The Peru and Chile offsides, plus the Venezuela last minute penalty were a bit more clear cut.

There were two bad offsides calls in the Ecuador-Chile game in the second half, one each way, so they kinda evened out. (Gol TV's feed didn't replay the one that went against Ecuador, but I did check it on my Tivo.)

Critch · 06-27-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

They probably have about the same number of starters from the Gold Cup final as we have, but I think they're closer to having their first-choice backups (which I guess is something of an oxymoron

).

Their backup goalkeeper did ok.

Blade6119 · 06-27-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Their backup goalkeeper did ok.

Francisco Guillermo Ochoa has long been labeled the future gk for mexico, and has garnered a lot of interest from europe. I dont think its much of a stretch to consider him the best mexican gk, but like keller and the US, sanchez gets starts due to his experience.

cuervo72 · 06-28-2007, 09:03 AM

Is this thread about a Spanish-Language superhero? Do we need a spoiler tag?

moriarty · 06-28-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

They probably have about the same number of starters from the Gold Cup final as we have, but I think they're closer to having their first-choice backups (which I guess is something of an oxymoron

).

The funny thing is Castillo starts for their 'B' team which might make them better than their 'A' team.

Mr. Wednesday · 06-28-2007, 12:34 PM

I was talking about the Gold Cup final, which was their best game in the tournament by a fair margin from all reports, and Castillo started in that game.

Someone said on BigSoccer that they only carried over something like three starters from the GC final. In addition to the guys I mentioned earlier, Medina also suffered an injury.

moriarty · 06-28-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I was talking about the Gold Cup final, which was their best game in the tournament by a fair margin from all reports, and Castillo started in that game.

Someone said on BigSoccer that they only carried over something like three starters from the GC final. In addition to the guys I mentioned earlier, Medina also suffered an injury.

Ah, ignore me. I don't know what the hell I was referring to. :o I think i was mixing Castillo and Blanco up.

astrosfan64 · 06-28-2007, 01:20 PM

So who do you think our starting lineup will be?

Mr. Wednesday · 06-28-2007, 03:32 PM

Somebody on BigSoccer divined the following from allocation of players in a Studio 90 segment:

Keller - Wynne, DeMerit, Conrad, Bornstein - Olsen, Clark, Feilhaber, Mapp - Johnson, Twellman

I'd be a little surprised by the Johnson-Twellman pairing, and by Bornstein playing instead of Pearce, but otherwise it's about what I would have expected (modulo uncertainty about whether Keller or Guzan would be the primary keeper in this tournament).

astrosfan64 · 06-28-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Somebody on BigSoccer divined the following from allocation of players in a Studio 90 segment:

Keller - Wynne, DeMerit, Conrad, Bornstein - Olsen, Clark, Feilhaber, Mapp - Johnson, Twellman

I'd be a little surprised by the Johnson-Twellman pairing, and by Bornstein playing instead of Pearce, but otherwise it's about what I would have expected (modulo uncertainty about whether Keller or Guzan would be the primary keeper in this tournament).

I'm pretty excited to see the Feilhaber and Clark paining in the middle. I also really like Mapp.

It will be interesting to see how Wynne will do.

Blade6119 · 06-28-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

I'm pretty excited to see the Feilhaber and Clark paining in the middle. I also really like Mapp.

It will be interesting to see how Wynne will do.

For once i agree with you, though like mr. w im sad to see bornstein starting over pearce

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 07:34 PM

Can someone tell Colombia the tournament is underway?

MJ4H · 06-28-2007, 07:41 PM

I think they just got told.

Flasch186 · 06-28-2007, 07:58 PM

woohoo

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 07:58 PM

dream start

VPI97 · 06-28-2007, 07:59 PM

HELL YEAH

VPI97 · 06-28-2007, 08:00 PM

D'oh!

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 08:00 PM

come on guys, come the fuck on

Critch · 06-28-2007, 08:01 PM

Friggin directv. It's not even raining that hard.

Flasch186 · 06-28-2007, 08:01 PM

boohoo

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 08:05 PM

fuckers! I forgot the game was on at 8:30 and just watched an hour of the nfl draft and missed the first 15 minutes. how are we 1-1 already? who scored?

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 08:10 PM

nice play by mapp there!

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 08:13 PM

omg...is that Veron I just saw?? when did he get a call-up to the ARG squad again?

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 08:13 PM

hahah. EJ just got STRIPPED

VPI97 · 06-28-2007, 08:18 PM

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fuckers! I forgot the game was on at 8:30 and just watched an hour of the nfl draft and missed the first 15 minutes. how are we 1-1 already? who scored?

Eddie Johnson breakaway + great pass = EJ taken down from behind in the box. He converted the penalty only to see Argentina answer less than two minutes later.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 08:18 PM

the boys are playing better than I expected they would, tbh. they're keeping up for the most part

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 08:20 PM

Bornstein playing fantastic so far

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 08:35 PM

good half boys!

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 08:41 PM

I fear the last 15 minutes are going to be a non-stop assault on the USA goal. Argentina can bring in some difference makers against tiring guys while we can just bring in fresh legs really.

Critch · 06-28-2007, 08:41 PM

Whoever that is in the studio with Ray Hudson has a normal sized head but an absolutely massive body. It's like he's wearing a padded suit.

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Whoever that is in the studio with Ray Hudson has a normal sized head but an absolutely massive body. It's like he's wearing a padded suit.

Phile Schoen, and it's so true. When I first saw him that was my exact thought.

moriarty · 06-28-2007, 08:43 PM

Good half. Complete F-up on that set piece though ... looked like 7 guys played offside trap and 3 guys didn't get the message (I think Wynne actually played him on).

We need some work on our set pieces (both offensive/defensive) and we need to keep the ball a bit after a turnover ... but impressive for this squad to hang together like they have.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 08:51 PM

if we can weather the early storm and sit back and counter-attack we could come out of this with a good result. Don't know that we have the talent to convert the limited # of chances we would get though.

either way...key is to weather the initial storm as ARG is sure to come out fired-up

Blade6119 · 06-28-2007, 09:04 PM

I may be mistaken, but havent we had penalty kicks in like our last 7 games? We have no offense other then dive and pray

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 09:12 PM

keller shoulda had that

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 09:14 PM

nice play by Argentina, but that ball was practically right where you would have wanted it if you were keeper.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 09:25 PM

how the FUCK did they just let him run in there unmarked!?!?!?

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 09:25 PM

the fatigue kicked in about 15 minutes earlier than i expected... this could get ugly by the end if they arent careful

astrosfan64 · 06-28-2007, 09:27 PM

I tired of Keller in goal.

cthomer5000 · 06-28-2007, 09:27 PM

Frankensteain (Tevez) is on the field.. look out!

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 09:28 PM

off comes messi & on comes tevez? that's really not fair.

"Hi we're going to take off one wunderkid and put on another."

06-27-2007, 09:22 PM	#2
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Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I was talking about the Gold Cup final, which was their best game in the tournament by a fair margin from all reports, and Castillo started in that game. Someone said on BigSoccer that they only carried over something like three starters from the GC final. In addition to the guys I mentioned earlier, Medina also suffered an injury. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

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Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Somebody on BigSoccer divined the following from allocation of players in a Studio 90 segment: Keller - Wynne, DeMerit, Conrad, Bornstein - Olsen, Clark, Feilhaber, Mapp - Johnson, Twellman I'd be a little surprised by the Johnson-Twellman pairing, and by Bornstein playing instead of Pearce, but otherwise it's about what I would have expected (modulo uncertainty about whether Keller or Guzan would be the primary keeper in this tournament). __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

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Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Main thing about tonight's game was that it showed Brazil can't play a B team and expect to win anything anymore. That was as bad a Brazil team as I've seen. So far it's been 4 good games, but the refereeing and the atmosphere in the stadiums has been lacking.

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astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	So who do you think our starting lineup will be?

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06-28-2007, 08:01 PM	#28
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Friggin directv. It's not even raining that hard.

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	fuckers! I forgot the game was on at 8:30 and just watched an hour of the nfl draft and missed the first 15 minutes. how are we 1-1 already? who scored? Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-28-2007 at 08:07 PM.

06-28-2007, 08:10 PM	#31
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nice play by mapp there!

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	omg...is that Veron I just saw?? when did he get a call-up to the ARG squad again?

06-28-2007, 08:18 PM	#35
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	the boys are playing better than I expected they would, tbh. they're keeping up for the most part

06-28-2007, 08:41 PM	#39
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Whoever that is in the studio with Ray Hudson has a normal sized head but an absolutely massive body. It's like he's wearing a padded suit.

06-28-2007, 08:43 PM	#41
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	Good half. Complete F-up on that set piece though ... looked like 7 guys played offside trap and 3 guys didn't get the message (I think Wynne actually played him on). We need some work on our set pieces (both offensive/defensive) and we need to keep the ball a bit after a turnover ... but impressive for this squad to hang together like they have.

06-28-2007, 08:51 PM	#42
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	if we can weather the early storm and sit back and counter-attack we could come out of this with a good result. Don't know that we have the talent to convert the limited # of chances we would get though. either way...key is to weather the initial storm as ARG is sure to come out fired-up

06-28-2007, 09:04 PM	#43
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I may be mistaken, but havent we had penalty kicks in like our last 7 games? We have no offense other then dive and pray __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

06-28-2007, 09:12 PM	#44
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	keller shoulda had that

06-28-2007, 09:25 PM	#46
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	how the FUCK did they just let him run in there unmarked!?!?!?

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astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	I tired of Keller in goal.

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	off comes messi & on comes tevez? that's really not fair. "Hi we're going to take off one wunderkid and put on another."

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