FOF: name your all-time legend ?

[Darkiller]

I'd like each member to name its all-time legend in the game of FOF.
Here is a start to it.

(edited to reflect any new additions)

Darkiller : QB Brock Sheriff
Hell Atlantic : QB Dean Houston
MIJB : QB 'Fumblin' Justin McDavid.
Albionmoonlight : QB Mel Copeland
CThomer : RB Zach Langen

[albionmoonlight]

If it's not Mel Copeland, it's crap.

Mel's dominance (achieved under public scrunity and reasonable house rule restrictions) makes all comparisons across games less fun for me. It's like trying to argue about the best receivers in NFL history. The only real debate starts at #2.

[albionmoonlight]

dola--and I think MIJB's may be John Dixon, though I could be wrong (I suppose we could ask him).

[Darkiller]

just did ! he said no. it's McDavid !

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola--and I think MIJB's may be John Dixon, though I could be wrong (I suppose we could ask him).

I'm really laughing out loud.
DK asked me about the LB, I said the name was John Dixon, but I'd rather not be asociated with him, he was a product of the system and more famous due to the unretiring trick.

Legend, yes, my favorite player, hell no!

[cthomer5000]

Zach Langen

11-time League MVP (2031-2039, 2042 & 2043)
11-time Offensive Player of the Year (2031-2039, 2042 & 2043)
11-time 1st Team Running Back (2031- 2039, 2042 & 2043)
2nd Team Running Back (2041)
Offensive Rookie of the Year (2031)
2-time Front Office Bowl MVP (2032 & 2033)
Legend of the Game (2044)





Zach's relative standing (all-time)

Career Rushing Attempts
Zach: 6,883
2nd place: 3,983 (difference of 2,900, ~73% more than 2nd place)

Career Rushing Yards
Zach: 30,050
2nd place: 15,565 (difference of 14,485, ~93% more than 2nd place)

Career Rushing Touchdowns
Zach: 160
2nd place: 112 (difference of 38, ~43% more than 2nd place)


The entire thread about this guy can be found here:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/fo...&threadid=19174

[Darkiller]

edited the first post to add the new names (from Albion and CThomer)...so that in the end, we have a full list of the All-time players.

Dark

[albionmoonlight]

Actually, Mel Copeland is a QB from one of Quik's dynasties. I said WR only to indicate that this guy had Jerry Rice type dominance.

I forgot about that RB from Cthomer. That guy was a freak of nature.

I'll try to remember to post my best player tonight, though he was not anywhere close to either of these two guys.


http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...6&page=1&pp=50

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I forgot about that RB from Cthomer. That guy was a freak of nature.

absolutely. He was never was injured in any way, and the CPU seemed to know how to use him. I only tinkered with the depth chart or game plan in his final season... I have no idea why the computer ran like crazy with him, because I also had a HOF QB. I've kept playing forward in that universe, and no one is even close to touching his stats.

[Darkiller]

so Mel Copeland is also Quik's legend ?

[Darkiller]

and oh, congrats on the 7,000th post CThomer !

[albionmoonlight]

I don't know who Quik would put up here. I was just commenting on, out of all of the legends that I have seen, he is the most . . . legend of them all. He's from Quik's carrer, though. Not mine.

Sorry to confuse things.

[albionmoonlight]

Actually, DK, if legend incorporates some aspect of who on our team we really like--I'd like mine to be J. Boggs from the NorthStars. He puts up numbers well beyond his red bars (which I, personally, love), and has managed to get an all pro nod from two separate positions. I wish that I had had him from the beginning of his career--I would have put up some freakzilla numbers with the guy.

[The Un-Ghosted Chubby]

Joe Teeters!

[Ben E Lou]

Two words: Tyrus Dunn.

[Leonidas]

Mine was a RB from Ohio State, Robert McGhee that I had on my expansion Houston dynasty. Guy won three league MVPs, had well over 100 career TD's. Just pumped out 1,500 yards and 12-15 TD's every year for 12 years.

[Abe Sargent]

Bo MacBeth, QB on offsense and Sean Stewart, FS, on defense (Both 2k1)

-Anxiety

[QuikSand]

albionmoonlight already pumped him up, but the guy who amazed me the most in my many FOF careers was Mel Copeland. I picked him in my Magic Beans Dynasty, where every player had to come from my own rookie draft and FA class (I never signed a free agent or any player from any other source). Copeland arrived right as the team was starting to come together, and led them on quite a ride.

Excrpted from the dynasty thread, linked above:

MEL COPELAND PLAYER CARD

Hometown: Springville, Utah
College: Clemson
Drafted: 2008 Round 1, #18 overall by Miami

Statistics
18 seasons, 274 games played (all starts)
6,340 / 9,865 = 64.2% completions
75,824 passing yards = 7.68 ypa
578 touchdowns, 169 interceptions
1,074 carries for 6,505 yards = 6.0 ypc
Career passer rating = 100.0
Record as starting QB = 282-41-0

Awards
2025 Retired as Legend of the Game
2025 All-league Second Team QB
2024 Superbowl MVP
2024 All-league First Team QB
2023 Solecismic MVP
2023 Superbowl MVP
2023 All-league First Team QB
2022 Solecismic MVP
2022 Superbowl MVP
2022 Offensive Player of the Year
2022 All-league First Team QB
2021 Solecismic MVP
2021 Superbowl MVP
2021 Offensive Player of the Year
2021 All-league First Team QB
2020 All-league First Team QB
2019 Solecismic MVP
2019 Superbowl MVP
2019 Offensive Player of the Year
2019 All-league First Team QB
2018 Superbowl MVP
2017 All-league First Team QB
2016 Solecismic MVP
2016 Superbowl MVP
2016 Offensive Player of the Year
2016 All-league First Team QB
2015 Solecismic MVP
2015 Superbowl MVP
2015 Offensive Player of the Year
2015 All-league First Team QB
2014 Solecismic MVP
2014 Offensive Player of the Year
2014 All-league First Team QB
2013 Solecismic MVP
2013 Superbowl MVP
2013 All-league First Team QB
2012 Solecismic MVP
2012 Superbowl MVP
2012 Offensive Player of the Year
2012 All-league First Team QB
2011 Solecismic MVP
2011 Offensive Player of the Year
2011 All-league First Team QB
2010 Solecismic MVP
2010 Superbowl MVP
2010 Offensive Player of the Year
2010 All-league First Team QB

[JeeberD]

What was the name of the stud running back that was the star of the Village Challenge team?

Damn, that guy was good. Wish I could remember his name...

[korme]

QB Phil Hatcher

[korme]

wait, or a LB. lemme load up teh fof

[Kodos]

Chuck U. Farley.

[korme]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

QB Phil Hatcher

Nope. QBHarvey Tornberg actually passed Hatch 2 sims ago for my all-time QB records. Too bad Tornberg couldn't stay healthy. After missing just 4 games in his first 9 season, he played just: 13, 8, 11, 9, 2, 3.

Hatcher on the other hand never missed a game in the same number of seasons, so Tornberg really beats him compared to all the games he missed but still better numbers. I know this makes no sense to anyone else, but, who cares.

[Travis]

FOF wise, I don't really have a candidate, but if we open it up to TCY, then I'd be nominating ILB Oscar Payne.

And I know Blade would submit FS Geoff Ramsey.

Now I just gotta find the url for the board we posted those dynasties on, wow was that a long time ago.

[rufusjonz]

Just looked up on Fof 2004

Offense -- Rod Moore QB
Picked up from Browns after 4 seasons, he played 12 for Cincinnati.
7 League MVPs for Cincy.
Career 101.9 QB rating.
Retired after a MVP year.

Defense -- Herb Penrod FS
2nd Round draft pick
Undersung, only 1 2nd-Team All League selection
15 years, all with Cincy
2nd overall in career team tackles and 1st in interceptions (by 22).

Defense --

[Bad-example]

In FOF2001, I took the expansion team and selected QB Gus "Low Risk" Fisk with the first pick in the draft. He played 12 years for my Raleigh Poison Leafs and never missed the playoffs, winning 4 or 5 championships.

[hukarez]

Wow. You guys have some serious legends in your careers. Mine hasn't been quite as outlandish, and it was a bit hard to pick someone who stood out. Still, this guy stood out in my mind as an ironman of sorts, and pretty consistent for the most part.

RB John Carvalho (13 seasons)
Drafted 1st Round, 2015, Cleveland

2015 (Rookie year) w/ Cleveland
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 236 Attempts / 1254 Yards Rushing / 5.3 YPC / 9 Rush TDs (Season Long of 39)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 24 Tgts / 18 Recs / 144 Yards Rec / 6.3 Avg / 96 YAC
0 Rec TDs / 1 Drop / 7.9 TPct / Season Long Reception of 19 yards
Misc:
5 Fumbles / 1 Rcov / 54 Points

2016 w/ Cleveland
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 225 Attempts / 1106 Yards Rushing / 4.9 YPC / 13 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 60)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 56 Tgts / 37 Recs / 204 Yards Rec / 5.5 Avg / 124 YAC
2 TDs / 0 Drops / 18.3 TPct / Season Long Reception of of 12 yards
Misc:
4 Fumbles / 1 Rcov / 90 Points

2017 w/ Cleveland
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 323 Attempts / 1680 Yards Rushing / 5.2 YPC / 12 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 39)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 81 Tgts / 66 Recs / 524 Yards Rec / 7.9 Avg / 314 YAC
4 Rec TDs / 1 Drop / 26.2 TPct / Season Long Reception of 48 yards
Misc:
5 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 108 Points

2018 w/ Cleveland
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 284 Attempts / 1337 Yards Rushing / 4.7 YPC / 11 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 42)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 103 Tgts / 76 Recs / 550 Yards Rec / 7.2 Avg / 313 YAC
3 Rec TDs / 1 Drop / 26.1 TPct / Season Long Reception of 58 yards
Misc:
4 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 84 Points

2019 w/ Cleveland
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 255 Attempts / 993 Yards Rushing / 3.8 YPC / 4 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 32)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 93 Tgts / 71 Recs / 383 Yards Rec / 5.3 Avg / 246 YAC
1 Rec TD / 0 Drops / 25.3 TPct / Season Long Reception of 27 Yards
Misc:
8 Fumbles / 1 Rcov / 40 Points

2020 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 316 Attempts / 1493 Yards Rushing / 4.7 YPC / 10 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 75)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 57 Tgts / 38 Recs / 323 Yards Rec / 8.5 Avg / 189 YAC
1 Rec TD / 1 Drop / 17.8 TPct / Season Long Reception of 19 Yards
Misc:
3 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 66 Points

2021 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 322 Attempts / 1610 Yards Rushing / 5.0 YPC / 13 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 60)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 61 Tgts / 37 Recs / 359 Yards Rec / 9.7 Avg / 119 YAC
2 Rec TDs / 4 Drops / 17.4 TPct / Season Long Reception of 37 yards
Misc:
3 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 96 Points

2022 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
14 GP / 14 GS / 296 Attempts / 1385 Yards Rushing / 4.6 YPC / 6 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 33)
Receiving:
14 GP / 14 GS / 65 Tgts / 47 Recs / 416 Yards Rec / 8.8 Avg / 179 YAC
7 Rec TDs / 1 Drop / 22.1 TPct / Season Long Reception of 44 yards
Misc:
1 Fumble / 3 Rcov / 1 Frcd / 78 Points

2023 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 338 Attempts / 1765 Yards Rushing / 5.2 YPC / 8 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 62)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 91 Tgts / 68 Recs / 455 Yards Rec / 6.6 Avg / 251 YAC
3 Rec TDs / 1 Drop / 26.7 TPct / Season Long Reception of 29 yards
Misc:
2 Fumbles / 1 Rcov / 1 TD / 78 Points

2024 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
13 GP / 13 GS / 259 Attempts / 1240 Yards Rushing / 4.7 YPC / 3 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 43)
Receiving:
13 GP / 13 GS / 85 Tgts / 61 Recs / 400 Yards Rec / 6.5 Avg / 242 YAC
5 Rec TDs / 4 Drops / 26.6 TPct / Season Long Reception of 19 yards
Misc:
5 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 1 Frcd / 50 Points

2025 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 292 Attempts / 1276 Yards Rushing / 4.3 YPC / 2 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 38)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 86 Tgts / 64 Recs / 501 Yards Rec / 7.8 Avg / 224 YAC
3 Rec TDs / 2 Drops / 25.2 TPct / Season Long Reception of 49 yards
Misc:
3 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 30 Points

2026 w/ Dallas
Rushing:
14 GP / 14 GS / 213 Attempts / 901 Yards Rushing / 4.2 YPC / 4 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 28)
Receiving:
14 GP / 14 GS / 71 Tgts / 48 Recs / 303 Yards Rec / 6.3 Avg / 166 YAC
0 Rec TDs / 1 Drop / 29.9 TPct / Season Long Reception of 28 yards
Misc:
5 Fumbles / 0 Rcov / 24 Points

2027 w/ New York
Rushing:
16 GP / 16 GS / 512 Attempts / 2360 Yards Rushing / 4.6 YPC / 14 Rush TDs
(Season Long of 52)
Receiving:
16 GP / 16 GS / 16 Tgts / 10 Recs / 69 Yards Rec / 6.9 Avg / 17 YAC
1 Rec TD / 0 Drops / 3.1 TPct / Season Long Reception of 15 yards
Misc:
6 Fumbles / 1 Rcov / 90 Points

Career Totals:

Rushing:
201 GP / 201 GS / 3871 Attempts / 18400 Yards Rushing / 4.7 YPC / 109 TDs
Career Long Rush of 75 yards
Receiving:
201 GP / 201 GS / 889 Tgts / 641 Recs / 4601 Yards Receiving / 2480 YAC
32 Rec TDs / 17 Drops / 20.2 TPct
Career Long Reception of 58 Yards
Misc:
54 Fumbles / 8 Rcov / 1 TD / 2 Frcd / 888 Points

Awards:
2017 - 1st Team RB
2017 - Offensive Player of the Year
2017 - Solecismic League MVP

2023 - All-League 2nd RB

2027 - All-League 1st RB
2027 - Offensive Player of the Year
2027 - Solecismic League MVP

Don't ask me about his final year. I haven't a clue how he ended up setting career highs in his final season. I thought of this guy as being one heck of an "all around back" of sorts. Wish he stayed in the league a good while longer - I'd have loved to get him on my team.

EDIT:

He leads my universe in most Rushing Yards and most Rushing TDs. He was about 7 games short of establishing most games played by a RB, but does seem to hold the record for most games started by an RB.

[Front Office Midget]

This was a few years ago and on my old computer, so I don't have the stats anymore. But it was with one of my first careers, on FOF2 with the Green Bay Packers. My QB Mo Rosenthal had over 64,000 yards, 483 TDs (if I recall correctly), and won 3 rings for us. He also played in 12 straight seasons without missing a regular season game. Wish I still had his stats.

[mckerney]

For me it's Eugene Moss, even though he probably still has 1 or 2 more years left in his career. Classic over achiever, going from 6th round draft pick with a 2nd year #1 pick ahead of him to beating him out as a rookie after training camp, and then throwing for 49,271 yards and 319 TDs, completing 62% of his passes. He did all this where the main goal of my dynasty was to feed the ball to RB Drew Jonassen, who ran for a league record of 15,813 yards and 112 TDs in 11 seasons.

[Troll]

I have 2 players, although neither have retired yet. I have been turned off on keeping playing b/c of my team's cap hell. Every offseason we have to cut several players just to field a complete team(b/c of these 2 players.) Although neiter have monster stats by yur standards they are my 2 favorite.

QB Alfred Kirchgessner

I drafted him in the 1st round at pick 4. I already had a young QB I was grooming into the roll of superstar coming off an all pro 2nd team year, lol, Patrick Ramsey. However I couldn't pass on this guy. He had max potential in just about everything, was 95% developed, and ran a 4.22 40!!!! He played at Duke. Currently he is 36 years old.

2004- Offensive Rookie of the Year
2006- 1st Team QB
2006- League MVP
2007- 1st Team QB
2007- Offensive Player of the Year
2007- League MVP
2007- Front Office Bowl MVP
2008- 1st Team QB
2008- Offensive Player of the Year
2008- League MVP
2010- Front Office Bowl MVP
2011- 2nd Team QB
2012- 2nd Team QB
2013- 1st Team QB
2013- Offensive Player of the Year
2013- Front Office Bowl MVP
2014- 1st Team QB
2014- Offensive Player of the Year
2014- League MVP
2016- Front Office Bowl MVP

He should have been MVP in 2013 but they gave it to J.B. Thomason for the 2nd year in row as a gift I guess. He had a very un-MVP like season.

My favorite player ever is WR Randall McCubbrey who I actually argued over with a friend. He plays FOF too and when it came draft time we argued over which WR to take. It was a very deep year for WR's with 7 going in round 1 and another 5 in round 2. I sat at 32nd pick and watched all my WR's go off the board except 2. Randall McCubbrey and Donnie Satterlee. My friend argued Satterlee b/c of his size and speed, however I had a feeling about McCubbrey and took him.

He has posted 8 straight 1000 yard seasons and in 8 years has an amazing 133 recieving TD's despite only playing in 12 games 2 years. He has posted 2 30+ TD recieving years and that in itself is out of this world. This guy would be a fantasy machine. If I ever get it going again it will be interesting to see exactly how many TD's he can rack up before he retires. He is only 30, but is already showing signs of slowing down with only 11 td's the last season.

He has been surround with top level WR's his whole career. He played next to Taylor Jacobs his first 3 years. Taylor had 2 1,800 yard seasons in that time but never more than 5 touchdowns. Since then he has been next to a WR I took in round one who, with the exception of last year(his contract year) he has never played in more than 6 games. He was not retained and there are no other good WR's on my roster this year. If I ever do play this again he is primed for some big seasons.

I'm not sure the exact reasons for all the touch downs b/c his ratings are good, but not great. He's not in the top 15 WR's in the league in talent level, however his big play receiving is 100.

[Flasch186]

I dont have his #'s cuz it was from an old game, but for me it was:

ILB Albert Ruddy.....5th rd. draft choice and future HOF. He was unbelievable.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

What was the name of the stud running back that was the star of the Village Challenge team?

Damn, that guy was good. Wish I could remember his name...

Me too

[Alf]

dola, for the TCY VC, I think 3ric would vote for WR Herb Bertram as he won the Heisman trophy in our 2040 season !

[MIJB#19]

Village Challenge running back was: "Paddy" Schwimmer (I can't remember the in game first name, onyl the nickname).

[Poli]

QB Ardent Enthusiast of my walk on dynasty fame.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Village Challenge running back was: "Paddy" Schwimmer (I can't remember the in game first name, onyl the nickname).

YES!!!!

Should have known that Meep would know the answer...

[Balldog]

Many moons ago I had a save going with North Carolina in TCY, I recruited a guy named Jon Mauer from Michigan that no one else was recruiting. He passed for over 3000 yards his senior season in high school and was 6'5" 210 lbs. He started 4 years and broke every school passing record, every ACC passing record and almost every NCAA passing record. Kid was unreal.

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

YES!!!!

Should have known that Meep would know the answer...

Really makes you wonder where the suckiness in the IWS comes from, no?

For those interested in my hero's stats:

QB #3 Justin McDavid, Maassluis Merchantmen, IHOF
2004 Pass: 486 att, 250 cmp, 51.4%, 2904 yd, 5.97 av, 80 lg, 19 td, 22 int, 34 sk, 228 yd, 63.9 rate
2004 Rush: 59 att, 322 yd, 5.4 av, 44 lg, 2 td
2004 Misc: 15 gp, 15 gs, 13 fumb, 1 rcov, 0 td, 1-14 w/l
2005 Pass: 195 att, 100 cmp, 51.2%, 1037 yd, 5.31 av, 28 lg, 5 td, 8 int, 15 sk, 90 yd, 58.3 rat
2005 Rush: 33 att, 154 yd, 4.6 av, 12 lg, 0 td
2005 Misc: 7 gp, 7 gs, 4 fumb, 0 rcov, 0 td, 4-3 w/l
2006 Pass: on injured reserve
2006 Rush: on injured reserve
2006 Misc: on injured reserve
Carr Pass: 681 att, 350 cmp, 51.3%, 3941 yd, 5.78 av, 80 lg, 24 td, 30 int, 49 sk, 318 yd, 62.3 rat
Carr Rush: 92 att, 476 yd, 5.1 av, 44 lg, 2 td
Carr Misc: 22 gp, 22 gs, 17 fumb, 1 rcov, 0 td, 5-17 w/l
Other: Holds IHOF seasonal rookie records in passing yds (2904 in 2004) and passing tds (19 in 2004)