Last minute Heisman Predictions

Easy Mac · 12-13-2003, 07:01 PM

Who's winning?

White

Philliesfan980 · 12-13-2003, 07:02 PM

White

Poli · 12-13-2003, 07:03 PM

umm, Winslow.

Philliesfan980 · 12-13-2003, 07:06 PM

Just for the record..

6 bucks to Win 1 for White
1 buck to win 3 for Fitz..

Poli · 12-13-2003, 07:08 PM

You know, it's sad, I never understood how betting on football works. I understand the point spread thing. But how does it pay out?

Dr. Sak · 12-13-2003, 07:09 PM

I have a feeling that it will be Manning.

Philliesfan980 · 12-13-2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ardent enthusiast
You know, it's sad, I never understood how betting on football works. I understand the point spread thing. But how does it pay out?

Where to begin...

In a normal NFL type spread (-/+) you'll generally get a return of -110 , meaning that if you bet 50 on either side, you'll get back $45.45 in return if you win. The bookmakers (the real winners in all of sports gambling) generally get 10% of the bet, no matter what side its on (pretty nice huh?). Then again, they pretty much are at the mercy of every better, and if everyone plays one side, they can really get burned if it works out for the public.

In this case, its a futures bet, you can do this for any type of action. From who you think will win the Democratic Primary, to who's going to win the heisman.

Currently, its 6-1 that White will win the heisman, meaning you gotta bet 6 bucks to win 1. Its 1-3 for both Fitzgerald and Manning, meaning you gotta bet 1 buck to win 3. And its 1-28 that Perry will win it, meaning you'll get 28 bucks for every 1 you put up.

The_herd · 12-13-2003, 07:19 PM

Fitzgerald

SteelerFan448 · 12-13-2003, 07:36 PM

Larry Fitzgerald SHOULD win, Jason White probably will win.

Philliesfan980 · 12-13-2003, 07:43 PM

I think everything being equal, both players are very deserving of the award (White, and Fitzgerald). Everyone is being harsh towards White for having a poor game in the biggest game of the year for the Sooners (the big 12 championship game obviously).

People seem to forget that Fitzgerald had a poor game in the Miami game, the biggest game of the year for him. Granted, its hard when the QB doesn't throw you the ball, but still, he didn't put up good numbers in that game.

SteelerFan448 · 12-13-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Philliesfan980

People seem to forget that Fitzgerald had a poor game in the Miami game, the biggest game of the year for him. Granted, its hard when the QB doesn't throw you the ball, but still, he didn't put up good numbers in that game.

Bingo, you have to have the ball thrown to you if you want to put up big numbers. Rutherford didn't look at Larry all night.

QuikSand · 12-13-2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ardent enthusiast
You know, it's sad, I never understood how betting on football works. I understand the point spread thing. But how does it pay out?

A while back, there was a pretty handly little primer on this posted here... I'll see if I can re-locate it.

The_herd · 12-13-2003, 08:07 PM

Is there really any need for this to be a 2 hour show?

Eaglesfan27 · 12-13-2003, 08:15 PM

No. I wish they would just announce the award.

Buccaneer · 12-13-2003, 08:19 PM

Same here. My wife was watching and close to 7:00, I went upstairs to see who won. Then we both found out that it goes on for another hour. Forget that. No need to see the same highlights and 45 minutes of commercials when I can read who won later. Except for some games, sports on TV really sucks.

The_herd · 12-13-2003, 08:19 PM

They should just show every game each finalist played this season and turn it into a week long show.

GrantDawg · 12-13-2003, 08:22 PM

White, with Eli in second.

yabanci · 12-13-2003, 08:23 PM

That show is unwatchable.

tucker342 · 12-13-2003, 08:36 PM

White. Even though it should be Fitzgerald....

Eaglesfan27 · 12-13-2003, 08:47 PM

They are now talking about the Heisman's social significance in the Vietnam War, assination of JFK, and various other historical events. While I'm all for a review of history, does the Heisman really have this much importance in the fabric of America as they are saying on the show. I think not. It is an award - a prestigous award, but just an athletic award. It doesn't signify that the person is a great American or a great person. I like history, but the Heisman is not relevant on the grand historical level that the show is attempting to propose. I find it insulting to war heroes when they compare Heisman to a purple heart or other signs of valor. I've watched this far, so I will watch the end, but this show is really annoying me.

cmp · 12-13-2003, 08:51 PM

I want Fitzgerald to win but I'm positive White will win it.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-13-2003, 08:52 PM

Dola (maybe)

Although I almost don't care anymore after this two hour event and the long thanking of all of the Heisman's corporate sponsors, I stayed through til the end.

Congrats to Jason White, although I think Fitzgerald should have won.

12-13-2003, 07:03 PM	#3
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	umm, Winslow. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-13-2003, 07:08 PM	#5
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	You know, it's sad, I never understood how betting on football works. I understand the point spread thing. But how does it pay out? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-13-2003, 07:19 PM	#8
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	Fitzgerald __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

12-13-2003, 07:36 PM	#9
SteelerFan448 High School JV Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Steeler Country	Larry Fitzgerald SHOULD win, Jason White probably will win. __________________ "Yoi!"-Myron Cope

12-13-2003, 08:07 PM	#13
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	Is there really any need for this to be a 2 hour show? __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

12-13-2003, 07:02 PM	#2
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	White

12-13-2003, 07:06 PM	#4
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Just for the record.. 6 bucks to Win 1 for White 1 buck to win 3 for Fitz..

12-13-2003, 07:09 PM	#6
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I have a feeling that it will be Manning.

12-13-2003, 07:43 PM	#10
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	I think everything being equal, both players are very deserving of the award (White, and Fitzgerald). Everyone is being harsh towards White for having a poor game in the biggest game of the year for the Sooners (the big 12 championship game obviously). People seem to forget that Fitzgerald had a poor game in the Miami game, the biggest game of the year for him. Granted, its hard when the QB doesn't throw you the ball, but still, he didn't put up good numbers in that game.

12-13-2003, 08:15 PM	#14
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	No. I wish they would just announce the award. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-13-2003, 08:19 PM	#15
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Same here. My wife was watching and close to 7:00, I went upstairs to see who won. Then we both found out that it goes on for another hour. Forget that. No need to see the same highlights and 45 minutes of commercials when I can read who won later. Except for some games, sports on TV really sucks.

12-13-2003, 08:22 PM	#17
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	White, with Eli in second.

12-13-2003, 08:23 PM	#18
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	That show is unwatchable.

12-13-2003, 08:36 PM	#19
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	White. Even though it should be Fitzgerald....

12-13-2003, 08:47 PM	#20
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	They are now talking about the Heisman's social significance in the Vietnam War, assination of JFK, and various other historical events. While I'm all for a review of history, does the Heisman really have this much importance in the fabric of America as they are saying on the show. I think not. It is an award - a prestigous award, but just an athletic award. It doesn't signify that the person is a great American or a great person. I like history, but the Heisman is not relevant on the grand historical level that the show is attempting to propose. I find it insulting to war heroes when they compare Heisman to a purple heart or other signs of valor. I've watched this far, so I will watch the end, but this show is really annoying me. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 12-13-2003 at 08:48 PM.

12-13-2003, 08:51 PM	#21
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	I want Fitzgerald to win but I'm positive White will win it.

12-13-2003, 08:52 PM	#22
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola (maybe) Although I almost don't care anymore after this two hour event and the long thanking of all of the Heisman's corporate sponsors, I stayed through til the end. Congrats to Jason White, although I think Fitzgerald should have won. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

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