FOFC Literature Draft - Picks Thread

[Eaglesfan27]

You definitely aren't alone - one of my top 3 series.

[Izulde]

I might be stupid here, but isn't Hitchihiker's better suited in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy category? I thought it was a solo book.

[Buccaneer]

For once, Izulde and I are on the same page. It was a very fun book.

[Chief Rum]

Terrific pick, NM. I like all your picks so far (you bastard ).

[Eaglesfan27]

There were 5 books released at least.

[sabotai]

There's 5 book in that series. The first book is called "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", and people generally use that title to refer to the entire series (it doesn't have an official different name AFAIK).

[Eaglesfan27]

Off the top of my head:

1. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
2. The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
3. Life, the Universe, and Everything
4. So Long, and Thanks for all of the Fish.
5. Mostly Harmless

[NoMyths]

Yep. And the other books are great too:

[Edit for EF27's list]

The Salmon of Doubt was also released posthumously.

And thanks, Chief

[Crim]

Hitchhiker's = teh bomb!!!

Movie suxxors ballz though.

[Warhammer]

@#$!$%#^#%^!!!!! It seems like this round every pick was something on my board...

[Warhammer]

Fiction - 3.7 Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Single Short Story
Poem - 1.7 The Iliad - Homer
Fantasy/Science Fiction -
Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) - 2.4 The Cronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
Sport Related
Children's
Non-Fiction
Biography/Autobiography
History

I'm going out on a limb here, but Catch-22 is a screwball comedy about an aircraft squadron during WWII. There are many colorful characters and you can clearly see that several characters from M*A*S*H are based upon some of the characters here (Klinger is a wringer for Yossarian). It has been hailed as one of the most significant novels of the 20th century. Additionally, the phrase Catch-22 has caught on in language to reflect any no-win situation.

[Radii]

I have no idea how Catch-22 holds up compared to other great works of fiction, but from a popularity contest perspective I love the pick.

Hitchikers is great as well and I think it fits perfectly in the series category, another great one.

[Izulde]

Interesting selection.

[larrymcg421]

What fun would a draft be without a little contoversy...

1. Fiction - 1.8 The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem - 2.3 Paradise Lost, John Milton
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially)
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography - 3.8 Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler
10. History

I've been going after influential and significant books, and this certainly fits the bill on both of those accounts. One of the most notable books ever written.

[Izulde]

Very daring pick... I like it

[Chief Rum]

I think going for controversial books is fine, although you have to consider it may bite you in the ass during voting.

That said, I looked at Mein Kampf as a potential pick down the road for me.

[Izulde]

1. Fiction - 2.2 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem - 1.9 "The Waste Land" - T.S. Eliot
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) - 3.9 The Musketeers Saga - The Three Musketeers, Twenty Years After, Le Vicomte de Bragelonne, Louise de la Valliere, The Man in the Iron Mask - Alexandre Dumas
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History

Dumas is one of my favorite authors of all time and if Lolita would've been taken at some point in the draft, The Count of Monte Cristo would've been my fiction pick.

The Musketeers Saga has the benefit of being a non sci-fi/fantasy series and has two of Dumas's most enjoyable novels as the bookends in Three Musketeers and Man in the Iron Mask, though I have to say, I like Twenty Years After a lot.

[Axxon]

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially)
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History - 3,10 Shogun - James Clavell

This epic novel gives an exceptional view of ancient Japanese culture and politics. Simply one of my favorite books ever.

[Axxon]

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction - 4,1 - Slaugherhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially)
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History

I had to get Vonnegut in somewhere and last night I had a discussion about this book and it is a classic in every sense. I need look no further and select this one.

[wade moore]

fwiw - larry has the early lead on my board.

[Vince]

I am blown away that The Iliad lasted until pick #7.

That being said, this has been fun to follow, and I look forward to the finished product.

As for my current leaderboard...

1. Maple Leafs
2. NoMyths
3. larrymcg421

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Vince

As for my current leaderboard...

1. Maple Leafs
2. NoMyths
3. larrymcg421

My top 3 early on but I'm not 100% sure in what order. looong way to go though.

[Vince]

I have Warhammer just outside, but I'm not totally digging his Catch-22 pick. To put on my critical hat...

Personally, I think that Danse Macabre, while great, is a complete waste of Stephen King. Hard to imagine King lasting past the first couple of rounds...but King screams to me to be in the Fiction niche as one of the top 5 picks there for sure.

Picked way too early:

--Einstein's Autobiography - I like the pick, but this probably could have lasted until round 4 or 5.
--"The Waste Land" - Another pick I really like, but as your 1st rounder? Tons of great things were left on the board with this pick. You're not paying this pick ridiculous first round money...you could have let it slide
--The Foundation Series - This one might be a stretch to say "way" too early, but again. This is the first round...for the heavyweights that will really bring you home. Asimov I think is a better pick for Sci-Fi than for Series, anyways.

My favorite pick so far:
--2.5, The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, Poem
I had this as Poem #2 by a fair margin (Paradise Lost = 3rd), and NoMyths swoops in and steals a bargain as the 4th poem taken. This, to me, was one of about 20 pieces of literature off the top of my head that could be viewed as "no brainer" picks for the first round, as well. For it to last to the middle of the second...man.

Sounds like I'm crucifying DaddyTorgo, but I really like the Brother's Grimm pick, and there's lots of drafting left. I think that I've overlooked cartman so far. The Cask of Amontillado is a brilliant pick, and his three round drafting of Tolkein, Carrol and Poe is pretty solid.

My darkhorse at the moment has to be Chief Rum. Walden is a fantastic Autobiography pick, and while I'm not a huge fan of The Bible (it's like picking A-Rod first in fantasy baseball. You just do it, it doesn't mean you're crazy good at drafting or something), his next two picks have been very solid.

I've now analyzed this WAY too much. Hooray head colds and insomnia.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Axxon

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially)
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History - 3,10 Shogun - James Clavell

This epic novel gives an exceptional view of ancient Japanese culture and politics. Simply one of my favorite books ever.

Historical fiction, no?

History needs to be non-fiction, remember.

[Izulde]

FWIW I have my next pick figured out, I just wanted to give Axxon the chance to change his 3.10 pick.

[NoMyths]

I'd go ahead and make it, Izulde -- no sense holding up the draft for something that we've already hashed out. If a decision is made to allow another repick, there's no reason it can't happen later as opposed to waiting around now.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

What fun would a draft be without a little contoversy...

1. Fiction - 1.8 The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem - 2.3 Paradise Lost, John Milton
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially)
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography - 3.8 Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler
10. History

I've been going after influential and significant books, and this certainly fits the bill on both of those accounts. One of the most notable books ever written.

damm. i was considering using that for non-fiction (also considered it for autobiography)

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Vince

I have Warhammer just outside, but I'm not totally digging his Catch-22 pick. To put on my critical hat...

Personally, I think that Danse Macabre, while great, is a complete waste of Stephen King. Hard to imagine King lasting past the first couple of rounds...but King screams to me to be in the Fiction niche as one of the top 5 picks there for sure.

Picked way too early:

--Einstein's Autobiography - I like the pick, but this probably could have lasted until round 4 or 5.
--"The Waste Land" - Another pick I really like, but as your 1st rounder? Tons of great things were left on the board with this pick. You're not paying this pick ridiculous first round money...you could have let it slide
--The Foundation Series - This one might be a stretch to say "way" too early, but again. This is the first round...for the heavyweights that will really bring you home. Asimov I think is a better pick for Sci-Fi than for Series, anyways.

My favorite pick so far:
--2.5, The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, Poem
I had this as Poem #2 by a fair margin (Paradise Lost = 3rd), and NoMyths swoops in and steals a bargain as the 4th poem taken. This, to me, was one of about 20 pieces of literature off the top of my head that could be viewed as "no brainer" picks for the first round, as well. For it to last to the middle of the second...man.

Sounds like I'm crucifying DaddyTorgo, but I really like the Brother's Grimm pick, and there's lots of drafting left. I think that I've overlooked cartman so far. The Cask of Amontillado is a brilliant pick, and his three round drafting of Tolkein, Carrol and Poe is pretty solid.

My darkhorse at the moment has to be Chief Rum. Walden is a fantastic Autobiography pick, and while I'm not a huge fan of The Bible (it's like picking A-Rod first in fantasy baseball. You just do it, it doesn't mean you're crazy good at drafting or something), his next two picks have been very solid.

I've now analyzed this WAY too much. Hooray head colds and insomnia.

you are. you're crucifying me. besides, my strategy was to get the categories out of the way early where i felt i had the least chance of picking one that would make someone go "WHOA" and save those for later. to whit, none of the poems, short stories, history, or fiction books on the tops of my list have gone yet. well i would have liked some that went, but i have more than adequete replacements.

[Buccaneer]

Axxon has won.

[Izulde]

Since LS is here, I'll wait to get his ruling first, just to be on the safe side.

[lordscarlet]

Yes, the History category is meant to be non-fiction. If you would like to change your pick, you may, but this is the last historical fiction change I'm allowing. We've now had it twice, you guys should know better! But everyone else should continue to pick. Axxon can change his pick, but only with something that has not been taken since his original pick.

[Izulde]

LS, did you want me to go ahead and pick, or should we wait for Axxon to change it?

Edit: N/M. Sorry, read the beginning and end and missed the middle part at first.

[Izulde]

1. Fiction - 2.2 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem - 1.9 "The Waste Land" - T.S. Eliot
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) - 3.9 The Musketeers Saga - The Three Musketeers, Twenty Years After, Le Vicomte de Bragelonne, Louise de la Valliere, The Man in the Iron Mask - Alexandre Dumas
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction - 4.2 The Art of War - Sun Tzu
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History

Is there any more greater book on the methods of warfare? Entertaining, informative, famed for its relevancy even today in all areas, including the business sector, Sun Tzu's masterpiece is a work that has more than stood the test of time.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Izulde

1. Fiction - 2.2 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem - 1.9 "The Waste Land" - T.S. Eliot
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) - 3.9 The Musketeers Saga - The Three Musketeers, Twenty Years After, Le Vicomte de Bragelonne, Louise de la Valliere, The Man in the Iron Mask - Alexandre Dumas
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction - 4.2 The Art of War - Sun Tzu
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History

Is there any more greater book on the methods of warfare? Entertaining, informative, famed for its relevancy even today in all areas, including the business sector, Sun Tzu's masterpiece is a work that has more than stood the test of time.

I've been waiting for this one. I think it is a steal at 3.9

[lordscarlet]

dola: For whoever asked about history and non-fiction being the same thing, The Art of War is a great example of a non-fiction book that is not a history book.

[Warhammer]

For the record, please read my mind and do not select the book I was going to use with my next pick...

Thank you.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I've been waiting for this one. I think it is a steal at 3.9

It's an even bigger one at 4.2

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

For the record, please read my mind and do not select the book I was going to use with my next pick...

Thank you.

Yeah I was honestly surprised that it fell this far... When I looked over my boards again and realized it was still sitting there, I just had to grab it, because I figured it and my #2 choice for non-fiction would be off the board by my next pick. Granted, my #3 option still likely would've been available and I daresay it would've been a good one, but I'm much happier having my top choice in the category.

[Warhammer]

I had debated it taking it in the third round, maybe I should have, but I have a ton more non-fiction works than I do fictional works in my bag of tricks.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Izulde

It's an even bigger one at 4.2

Wow. I did not get enough sleep last night.

[lordscarlet]

dola: I have put a grid of the selections on google spreadsheets: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...IZ_JSHdymhobZw

[lordscarlet]

I have a list from larry, but it was sent early yesterday morning. His most recent pick seems to be inline with his list, so I guess I will make his next selection, particularly since Warhammer is online. I hope the list is still accurate!

larrymcg421 selects:

4.3 Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx [Non-Fiction]

This may upset people, but if larry wanted to change that pick because it was old, that's OK with me. I don't want my rushing of the draft to screw his strategy if that was not what he wanted to pick next. (With the obvious usage of the rule that anything selected in the mean time is off limits)

[Warhammer]

Fiction - 3.7 Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Single Short Story
Poem - 1.7 The Iliad - Homer
Fantasy/Science Fiction -
Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) - 2.4 The Cronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
Sport Related 4.4 Ball Four by Jim Bouton
Children's
Non-Fiction
Biography/Autobiography
History

Just as the Iliad and the Cronciles of Narnia impacted other works in their genres and thus afected everything that came after them, Ball Four not only affected all the sports books that came after it, but also changed how sports were covered by the media. Prior to Ball Four we really didn't know the players or their pursuits and vices outside the game. After Ball Four, we knew everything about them. Not only is Ball Four a great book, but it paved the way for the sports books that came after it.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I have a list from larry, but it was sent early yesterday morning. His most recent pick seems to be inline with his list, so I guess I will make his next selection, particularly since Warhammer is online. I hope the list is still accurate!

larrymcg421 selects:

4.3 Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx [Non-Fiction]

This may upset people, but if larry wanted to change that pick because it was old, that's OK with me. I don't want my rushing of the draft to screw his strategy if that was not what he wanted to pick next. (With the obvious usage of the rule that anything selected in the mean time is off limits)

darn. i was hoping to use this. well actually das kapital. but i have many other delicious non-fiction choices

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Izulde

1. Fiction - 2.2 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem - 1.9 "The Waste Land" - T.S. Eliot
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) - 3.9 The Musketeers Saga - The Three Musketeers, Twenty Years After, Le Vicomte de Bragelonne, Louise de la Valliere, The Man in the Iron Mask - Alexandre Dumas
6. Sport Related
7. Children's
8. Non-Fiction - 4.2 The Art of War - Sun Tzu
9. Biography/Autobiography
10. History

Is there any more greater book on the methods of warfare? Entertaining, informative, famed for its relevancy even today in all areas, including the business sector, Sun Tzu's masterpiece is a work that has more than stood the test of time.

that was high on my nonfiction list too. but i have many other good choices for non-fiction so i'm okay

[Maple Leafs]

Wow, I missed a lot of picks.

Hitchhiker's Guide is an absolutely fantastic pick in this sort of draft. It's not a reach, it fits a category, and it will earn some people's vote on its own.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

darn. i was hoping to use this. well actually das kapital. but i have many other delicious non-fiction choices

I'm afraid he doesn't want both Mein Kampf and the Manifesto, but we shall see. I wanted to make sure the draft kept moving.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm 4.6 not 4.5 right? i'll have to wait till lunch to make my pick

[Izulde]

LS: Question on the Sports category. Is that fiction, non-fiction, or both?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Izulde

LS: Question on the Sports category. Is that fiction, non-fiction, or both?

I know it is LS's call, but I'd vote for either/or.