OT: Cowboy fans unite! Who will we draft?

cincyreds · 04-14-2003, 02:45 PM

And please no Cowboy haters please.

I have seen and read where the Cowboys may give up their #5 pick in order to get the Saints # 17 and # 18 picks. Would this be a good move?

What are the chances of the Cowboys drafting somebody like Kyle Boller?

Cowboy fans or other NFL fans, honestly who do you see us drafting this weekend?

GrantDawg · 04-14-2003, 02:47 PM

Two ones for a higher one? Sounds good, but I guess it depends on needs and what is out there.

Calis · 04-14-2003, 02:55 PM

Are the Saints wanting Newman? Or what's their idea behind moving up?

albionmoonlight · 04-14-2003, 02:59 PM

I think that the Saints would be more interested in Robertson if they made that move. They picked up some secondary help in FA, but didn't really address LB or DL needs.

Doug5984 · 04-14-2003, 03:03 PM

I have heard the Saints are very high on Newman, and Trufant....but I agree with albionmoonlight that if we move up it should be for Robertson. That being said I have also read reports that say the Saints want to move up, but they do not plan on giving up both 1st round picks, they say they will keep 2 first rounders, so I am not sure what they will be doing. If we traded up and got Newman or Robertson I would be very very happy, I just hope it doesn't cost us both 1st rounders.

I am not a Cowboys fan...but I could see them going in many directions with thier pick...They could go for Newman who appears to be a great CB, Robertson/Kennedy- to put a big body next to Glover to help take some pressure off of him and let him be more of the pass rusher he is....or Suggs give them some more help on the D-line....The Cowboys are in a good position- they might be able to trade down a few spots and still get the player they really want.

Another thing that might make a trade up more likely for the Saints is today they signed TE Ernie Conwell and before it was looking like we would take TE Jason Witten in round 1, now that TE is not as much as a need (Saftey either with the trade for Tebucky Jones) it is more likely that the Saints could trade (possibly with the Cowboys) to draft Newman or someone else....Personally I would like to see them come out of round 1 with Boss Baily and one of the DTs, possibly Sullivan or Joseph.

Calis · 04-14-2003, 03:07 PM

Ahh good, basically I'm happy as long as Newman doesn't go to the Cowboys.

No offense to Cowboys fans, I just want better for K-State'ers.

cincyreds · 04-14-2003, 03:16 PM

I respect you guys opinions and responses.

There was a mock draft done over at cbssportsline last week that had the Cowboys moving down and the Saints moving up to #5 and it had Dallas at picks #17 and #18.

I was shocked to see this also, but it would be great to get 2 good solid first rd picks, my Boys need it.

Most of all though, we need a QB and I have also read that Parcells likes Boller, but so do the Packers.

I'll see if I can find where I saw and read the information and post a link, if I can find it again.

albionmoonlight · 04-14-2003, 03:22 PM

I don't know if the trade will be with the Saints, but I would be shocked if Dallas does not trade down.

SunDancer · 04-14-2003, 03:30 PM

Isn't the draft the 26th-27th, or is it this weekend?

cincyreds · 04-14-2003, 03:32 PM

It is this weekend, SunDancer.

SunDancer · 04-14-2003, 03:38 PM

Cincy, it is the 26th-27th.

Kodos · 04-14-2003, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cincyreds
And please no Cowboy haters please.

Well, I guess I am uninvited.

I can't wait to see what the Cowboys' braintrust (term used loosely) has in store for this year's draft.

tucker342 · 04-14-2003, 06:39 PM

The Cowboys should draft Brad Banks. He's better than who ever is there starting quarterback right now...

damnMikeBrown · 04-14-2003, 07:31 PM

Yeah, draft Banks, but draft him in the second round...and maybe trade up to get him.

Ohh, or how about the UNLV quarterback. He's a marginal prospect. A sure fire 3rd round pick for Jerry Jones.

AgPete · 04-14-2003, 08:40 PM

If the Cowboys stick with their #5 pick, the three picks I would be happy with are CB Terence Newman, DE Terrell Suggs and QB Byron Leftwich. Newman seems to be the popular pick with mock drafts and Newman and Suggs are the two I'd be happiest with.

The Cowboys have zero depth at corner but Derek Ross was a pleasant surprise and for those who didn't watch Cowboys games last year, Ross may be one of the best corners in the NFL for a few years. Still, the best man behind him is Mario Edwards and Newman would be a huge upgrade over him if he becomes what people predict. It would be nice to see two potential all-pro corners on the Cowboys.

The Cowboys though need some help on the defensive line and linebacker. If Suggs is anywhere close to his contemporary Dwight Freeney, he would help the Cowboys immensely. It's hard not to upgrade over Ebenzer Ekuban. Dallas also lost Brandon Noble and they had problems pressuring quarterbacks at times so if Suggs can be the pass rushing threat some think he will, a team of Suggs, Glover and Ellis would wreck havoc on offensive lines. Suggs could perhaps also be moved to linebacker, especially if Parcells wants to change the small, quick linebackers that Dallas has typically gone for in past years. Apparently, Suggs isn't as safe a pick as Newman, and I see shades of Albert Haynesworth in him. A young promising defensive lineman but he may not be the first year impact Freeney was.

The Cowboys need to find a replacement for Aikman as soon as possible. I wouldn't be upset with Leftwich but I don't think Parcells will be around to see what he can do if they're going to depend on another rookie quarterback. I'd like to see them give Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson another chance and find a dependable vet somewhere in free agency.

If the Cowboys can't pick any of those three, I'd like to see them trade down and the offensive line would be my first choice to draft for. Rumors are flying that Parcells is a big fan of OT Jordan Gross. I'm not convinced Larry Allen will ever be a dominant offensive lineman again, especially if he can't stay healthy anymore and there are a lot of "iffy" young guys on the line as well as the underachiever Flozell Adams who just signed a fat contract which may be bad news. I wouldn't mind a defensive tackle in the lower first round either.

Dallas definitely needs to look for the next Emmitt Smith too. #22's are one in a million and no running back looks to be worth a first round pick this year but I'd be happy if they spent second or third round picks on Larry Johnson (Maybe a low first round pick on him), Willis McGahee (Huge gamble but worth it if he pans out), Lee Suggs and a few others.

It's a quarterback rich draft and I'd be happy if Dallas spent a second or third round pick on another QB to act as insurance for their young guys that haven't proven anything yet.

The only two positions I'd be shocked if the Cowboys drafted high are wide receiver and safety. Woodson and Roy Williams are good enough for this and next year and if the Cowboys just need to find someone to throw the ball to Galloway, Bryant and Glenn.

04-14-2003, 03:16 PM	#7
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	I respect you guys opinions and responses. There was a mock draft done over at cbssportsline last week that had the Cowboys moving down and the Saints moving up to #5 and it had Dallas at picks #17 and #18. I was shocked to see this also, but it would be great to get 2 good solid first rd picks, my Boys need it. Most of all though, we need a QB and I have also read that Parcells likes Boller, but so do the Packers. I'll see if I can find where I saw and read the information and post a link, if I can find it again. __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

04-14-2003, 03:32 PM	#10
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	It is this weekend, SunDancer. __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

04-14-2003, 08:40 PM	#15
AgPete College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001	If the Cowboys stick with their #5 pick, the three picks I would be happy with are CB Terence Newman, DE Terrell Suggs and QB Byron Leftwich. Newman seems to be the popular pick with mock drafts and Newman and Suggs are the two I'd be happiest with. The Cowboys have zero depth at corner but Derek Ross was a pleasant surprise and for those who didn't watch Cowboys games last year, Ross may be one of the best corners in the NFL for a few years. Still, the best man behind him is Mario Edwards and Newman would be a huge upgrade over him if he becomes what people predict. It would be nice to see two potential all-pro corners on the Cowboys. The Cowboys though need some help on the defensive line and linebacker. If Suggs is anywhere close to his contemporary Dwight Freeney, he would help the Cowboys immensely. It's hard not to upgrade over Ebenzer Ekuban. Dallas also lost Brandon Noble and they had problems pressuring quarterbacks at times so if Suggs can be the pass rushing threat some think he will, a team of Suggs, Glover and Ellis would wreck havoc on offensive lines. Suggs could perhaps also be moved to linebacker, especially if Parcells wants to change the small, quick linebackers that Dallas has typically gone for in past years. Apparently, Suggs isn't as safe a pick as Newman, and I see shades of Albert Haynesworth in him. A young promising defensive lineman but he may not be the first year impact Freeney was. The Cowboys need to find a replacement for Aikman as soon as possible. I wouldn't be upset with Leftwich but I don't think Parcells will be around to see what he can do if they're going to depend on another rookie quarterback. I'd like to see them give Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson another chance and find a dependable vet somewhere in free agency. If the Cowboys can't pick any of those three, I'd like to see them trade down and the offensive line would be my first choice to draft for. Rumors are flying that Parcells is a big fan of OT Jordan Gross. I'm not convinced Larry Allen will ever be a dominant offensive lineman again, especially if he can't stay healthy anymore and there are a lot of "iffy" young guys on the line as well as the underachiever Flozell Adams who just signed a fat contract which may be bad news. I wouldn't mind a defensive tackle in the lower first round either. Dallas definitely needs to look for the next Emmitt Smith too. #22's are one in a million and no running back looks to be worth a first round pick this year but I'd be happy if they spent second or third round picks on Larry Johnson (Maybe a low first round pick on him), Willis McGahee (Huge gamble but worth it if he pans out), Lee Suggs and a few others. It's a quarterback rich draft and I'd be happy if Dallas spent a second or third round pick on another QB to act as insurance for their young guys that haven't proven anything yet. The only two positions I'd be shocked if the Cowboys drafted high are wide receiver and safety. Woodson and Roy Williams are good enough for this and next year and if the Cowboys just need to find someone to throw the ball to Galloway, Bryant and Glenn. __________________ Click here for the FOF2004 World Football League Dynasty (WFL) - Football Goes Global! OOTP5 Psychology Experiment (Incomplete but fun read for MLB fans.) The FOFC All-Time NFL Team - Voted on by FOFC members.

04-14-2003, 02:47 PM	#2
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Two ones for a higher one? Sounds good, but I guess it depends on needs and what is out there.

04-14-2003, 02:55 PM	#3
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Are the Saints wanting Newman? Or what's their idea behind moving up?

04-14-2003, 02:59 PM	#4
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I think that the Saints would be more interested in Robertson if they made that move. They picked up some secondary help in FA, but didn't really address LB or DL needs.

04-14-2003, 03:03 PM	#5
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	I have heard the Saints are very high on Newman, and Trufant....but I agree with albionmoonlight that if we move up it should be for Robertson. That being said I have also read reports that say the Saints want to move up, but they do not plan on giving up both 1st round picks, they say they will keep 2 first rounders, so I am not sure what they will be doing. If we traded up and got Newman or Robertson I would be very very happy, I just hope it doesn't cost us both 1st rounders. I am not a Cowboys fan...but I could see them going in many directions with thier pick...They could go for Newman who appears to be a great CB, Robertson/Kennedy- to put a big body next to Glover to help take some pressure off of him and let him be more of the pass rusher he is....or Suggs give them some more help on the D-line....The Cowboys are in a good position- they might be able to trade down a few spots and still get the player they really want. Another thing that might make a trade up more likely for the Saints is today they signed TE Ernie Conwell and before it was looking like we would take TE Jason Witten in round 1, now that TE is not as much as a need (Saftey either with the trade for Tebucky Jones) it is more likely that the Saints could trade (possibly with the Cowboys) to draft Newman or someone else....Personally I would like to see them come out of round 1 with Boss Baily and one of the DTs, possibly Sullivan or Joseph. Last edited by Doug5984 : 04-14-2003 at 03:11 PM.

04-14-2003, 03:07 PM	#6
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Ahh good, basically I'm happy as long as Newman doesn't go to the Cowboys. No offense to Cowboys fans, I just want better for K-State'ers.

04-14-2003, 03:22 PM	#8
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I don't know if the trade will be with the Saints, but I would be shocked if Dallas does not trade down.

04-14-2003, 03:30 PM	#9
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Isn't the draft the 26th-27th, or is it this weekend?

04-14-2003, 03:38 PM	#11
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Cincy, it is the 26th-27th.

04-14-2003, 06:39 PM	#13
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	The Cowboys should draft Brad Banks. He's better than who ever is there starting quarterback right now...

04-14-2003, 07:31 PM	#14
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Yeah, draft Banks, but draft him in the second round...and maybe trade up to get him. Ohh, or how about the UNLV quarterback. He's a marginal prospect. A sure fire 3rd round pick for Jerry Jones.

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