The Official Survivor: China discussion thread (spoilers possible)

saldana · 09-15-2007, 09:02 AM

usually i am amped for the new season to start, which is this thursday, (so i thought it would be time to start this show's thread)...so i watched a preview special on the TV Guide channel yesterday and am so annoyed now that I dont know if am gonna watch this edition.

[putting this in spoiler tags just in case people want to be surprised on thursday]

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Flasch186 · 09-15-2007, 09:18 AM

um, cuz she's damn hot! This picture has her in bikini's and if that is not ok, a mod can go ahead and delete it....no problem, but dont click on the spoiler tag if you are offended and it's probably NSFW.

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RedKingGold · 09-15-2007, 09:28 AM

This show's still on?

Lathum · 09-15-2007, 09:30 AM

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saldana · 09-15-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

um, cuz she's damn hot! This picture has her in bikini's and if that is not ok, a mod can go ahead and delete it....no problem, but dont click on the spoiler tag if you are offended and it's probably NSFW.

not denying her hotness...i just think its stupid that someone with that much of a public persona is on the show

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Joe · 09-15-2007, 10:31 AM

then don't watch

molson · 09-15-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

not denying her hotness...i just think its stupid that someone with that much of a public persona is on the show

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She's like a H-list celebrity, if there is such a thing.

Probably no more famous than Gary Hogeboom.

Flasch186 · 09-15-2007, 10:42 AM

'cept hotter

Jas_lov · 09-15-2007, 01:00 PM

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Maple Leafs · 09-15-2007, 01:07 PM

I do this every season, so let's get it out of the way now: using a thread title that welcomes spoilers is pretty pointless since 90% of the people who watch the show want to avoid them at all costs. Seems like you can either have a thread for discussing the show with everyone who watches it, or one where spoilers are possilbe, but not both.

bulletsponge · 09-15-2007, 01:26 PM

she isnt even that hot imo. sure shes easy on the eyes, but not crotch adjusting hot

bulletsponge · 09-15-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

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i would tell you how, but i dont know how to post a spoiler tab

Jas_lov · 09-15-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

i would tell you how, but i dont know how to post a spoiler tab

All you do is put spoiler in brackets before your text and you put /spoiler in brackets after your text. It's just like if you wanted to bold or quote something except you use the word spoiler.

Galaril · 09-20-2007, 08:48 PM

Ok, Survivor was interesting. I was surprised at who was voted out. I would go further but I can't figure out how to the spoiler thing the post so I will leave it at that. But I definitely have a few favorites and a couple of contestants that I dislike already.

Flasch186 · 09-20-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Ok, Survivor was interesting. I was surprised at who was voted out. I would go further but I can't figure out how to the spoiler thing the post so I will leave it at that. But I definitely have a few favorites and a couple of contestants that I dislike already.

type "[spoiler " and close the words spoiler with the other bracket "]" and dont use quotes. then when youre done typing the spoiler type "[/spoiler " and close that with a "]"

mauchow · 09-20-2007, 09:15 PM

I didn't like the New York woman and I seem to be pulling for James the Gravedigger already.

OH and they are on the same team, so I'm torn already.

Raiders Army · 09-20-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I didn't like the New York woman and I seem to be pulling for James the Gravedigger already.

OH and they are on the same team, so I'm torn already.

ditto

Also, Ashley is not that hot. This season should be called Survivor: Boobs

TazFTW · 09-21-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I didn't like the New York woman and I seem to be pulling for James the Gravedigger already.

OH and they are on the same team, so I'm torn already.

Agreed, James is a beast. Not sure who to root for on the other tribe. I guess Dave by default.

wade moore · 09-21-2007, 04:06 AM

FUCK.

I HATE how survivor changes it's Tivo name every year. Looks like I missed the first episode.

Goddamnit.

EagleFan · 09-21-2007, 04:11 AM

Talk about dissapointed. I thought this Ashley person was supposed to be hot? She looks butt ugly with fake boobs, add annoying and you have a whole trifecta of reasons to holpe she makes an early exit.

Toddzilla · 09-21-2007, 07:19 AM

Casting Ashley from the WWE doesn't seem to be a publicity stunt on the part of the WWE anyway, since she was trying very hard to keep anyone in the WWE from knowing when she asked for an extended leave earlier in the year. However, as always happens, she let it slip to a close friend and the word got out fast. She subsequently got fired from the WWE IIRC.

Galaril · 09-21-2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

type "[spoiler " and close the words spoiler with the other bracket "]" and dont use quotes. then when youre done typing the spoiler type "[/spoiler " and close that with a "]"

Thanks.

Galaril · 09-21-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Agreed, James is a beast. Not sure who to root for on the other tribe. I guess Dave by default.

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Talk about dissapointed. I thought this Ashley person was supposed to be hot? She looks butt ugly with fake boobs, add annoying and you have a whole trifecta of reasons to holpe she makes an early exit.

I am also pulling for James and seem him going in with the Christian radio show host. BTW even though I am not a religious person that much I agreed that the Buddhist ceremony was worship like. And having dealt with Buddhist in Korea for years I can say for sure that the image of the nice quiet and benevolent monk isa crock of a shit. They can and usually are some of the biggest assessholes any ways...........

The wrestler chick should have been voted out and yeah she is really puck rock white trashish ugly. I can't really understand why Chicken got voted out. The producer did a poor job of showing us why he might be voted out. It seems voting him out just displays that tribes complete lack of planning. I guess they din't care for his telling them building there "home" on a flood plain was a bad idea.

Raiders Army · 09-21-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

I am also pulling for James and seem him going in with the Christian radio show host. BTW even though I am not a religious person that much I agreed that the Buddhist ceremony was worship like.

I told my wife she should've sucked it up and just faked it, like 90% of Americans do when they go to Church.

Kodos · 09-21-2007, 08:16 AM

Yep. Churchy girl and wrestler girl need to go.

Toddzilla · 09-21-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

I can't really understand why Chicken got voted out. The producer did a poor job of showing us why he might be voted out.

They did a great job IMO. At first the guy would shit all over other people's ideas - not in a constructive way, very condescending - and like a baby he decided to clam up when he didn't the the approval the wanted. The "doesn't matter to me, whatever you want to do" schtick was childish, and it was great when P.G. called him out on it. His attempt to talk the young dude into voting Ashley off showed how whiny and bitter he was. I knew he was a goner as soon as they started focusing on his bad attitude.

Toddzilla · 09-21-2007, 09:01 AM

Dola

FWIW, the editors do a very deliberate job of framing the contestants that are going to be among the final few. Someone on another site (TV w/o pity?) analyzed the first episodes for several past seasons and discovered that the players that last the longest in the game are portrayed in the first episode or two as very even-handed, insightful, intelligent, and savvy. On the other hand, contestants that get air time being arrogant, bitchy, whiny, and complainers are voted out early.

Using this data, they've predicted the winner of the last 3 Survivors based on the first episode only, and usually get all of the top 2 or 3.

MikeVic · 09-21-2007, 09:12 AM

I didn't watch the show, but caught the "greeting" as I was leaving the house. I'm not super religious, but I have my Catholic faith. I wouldn't be able to go through that greeting ceremony either. Doesn't matter what they said, it still looked like they were bowing down in front of Buddha.

Kodos · 09-21-2007, 09:25 AM

If God is all knowing, he knows you aren't worshipping Buddha. You can even say it in your head as you're doing it.

MikeVic · 09-21-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

If God is all knowing, he knows you aren't worshipping Buddha. You can even say it in your head as you're doing it.

That's stupid. So I can be killing someone, as long as in my head I believe I'm not and tell myself I'm not... it's ok?

Maple Leafs · 09-21-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

FWIW, the editors do a very deliberate job of framing the contestants that are going to be among the final few. Someone on another site (TV w/o pity?) analyzed the first episodes for several past seasons and discovered that the players that last the longest in the game are portrayed in the first episode or two as very even-handed, insightful, intelligent, and savvy. On the other hand, contestants that get air time being arrogant, bitchy, whiny, and complainers are voted out early.

Yes, there's been a definite pattern the past few years on how the first episode is edited.

In fact, last year my wife and I picked Earl as the winner after the first episode, because his edit was almost exactly like Yul's. It was so close that you assumed it has to be a red herring, but it wasn't. It was an obvious giveaway if you knew what to look for.

From a first viewing of last night's show, you can already eliminate about half the players as potential winners, but there's no obvious winner that I could see.

Kodos · 09-21-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

That's stupid. So I can be killing someone, as long as in my head I believe I'm not and tell myself I'm not... it's ok?

But God KNOWS you are not trying to worship the Buddha. He KNOWS you are just going through the motions of kneeling in front of some stupid statue to please the show's producers and not upset tribe mates. If he's going to not let you in heaven for that, that's just sad.

Comparing it to killing somebody but saying you don't mean it is beyond stupid. One is an empty gesture that means nothing, while in the other you're actually killing someone.

MikeVic · 09-21-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

But God KNOWS you are not trying to worship the Buddha. He KNOWS you are just going through the motions of kneeling in front of some stupid statue to please the show's producers and not upset tribe mates. If he's going to not let you in heaven for that, that's just sad.

Comparing it to killing somebody but saying you don't mean it is beyond stupid. One is an empty gesture that means nothing, while in the other you're actually killing someone.

Kneeling/bowing before another God, whether you mean it or not, does mean something. I think. I'm not up to snuff with exact rules and stuff, but I know I personally would've felt uncomfortable and not done it too.

Alan T · 09-21-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Yep. Churchy girl and wrestler girl need to go.

The gravedigger was my favorite also, but I agree that the wrestler girl should go.. I didn't mind the churchy girl as much, even with her issue regarding the greeting. From what they gave us on the show, it seemed that other than the greeting ceremony, she didn't really push much or be annoying to others. I bet we have something happen between her and that airline steward in the way of a blow up in future episodes though.

Kodos · 09-21-2007, 11:50 AM

I thought it was funny when the poker guy said he didn't believe that he was a flight attendant. To me, he quite obviously seemed just like a flight attendant.

Toddzilla · 09-21-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Casting Ashley from the WWE doesn't seem to be a publicity stunt on the part of the WWE anyway, since she was trying very hard to keep anyone in the WWE from knowing when she asked for an extended leave earlier in the year. However, as always happens, she let it slip to a close friend and the word got out fast. She subsequently got fired from the WWE IIRC.

correction - Ashley is still employed by the WWE.

BrianD · 09-21-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Kneeling/bowing before another God, whether you mean it or not, does mean something. I think. I'm not up to snuff with exact rules and stuff, but I know I personally would've felt uncomfortable and not done it too.

I can see this being something that depends on your level of religiousness. If you aren't terribly religious, faking it in front of another idol won't seem so bad. If you are very religious, even faking it is probably a big deal. I would like to think that a person could continue to pray while going through the motions, but then I am not terribly religious.

Maple Leafs · 09-21-2007, 02:38 PM

Take the deep religious discussions to PM, please.

MikeVic · 09-21-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Take the deep religious discussions to PM, please.

I'm done.

I just happened to see this yesterday and wanted to comment that I would've done the same thing.

BrianD · 09-21-2007, 02:44 PM

I was done too. I think we've said about all that can be said on the topic.

So any bets on how soon before Courtney gets booted? I'm assuming that she is the first off when her tribe has to vote.

Karlifornia · 09-21-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

They did a great job IMO. At first the guy would shit all over other people's ideas - not in a constructive way, very condescending - and like a baby he decided to clam up when he didn't the the approval the wanted. The "doesn't matter to me, whatever you want to do" schtick was childish, and it was great when P.G. called him out on it. His attempt to talk the young dude into voting Ashley off showed how whiny and bitter he was. I knew he was a goner as soon as they started focusing on his bad attitude.

Amen.

Kodos · 09-21-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Amen.

Take it to PMs!!!!!

saldana · 09-21-2007, 05:02 PM

my first vote would have been for the PG girl without question...yeah ashley was a bit of a wuss with the whole throwing up bit, but the crying after losing the challenge is weak. and then to start barking out orders after the tears were wiped away?! see-ya.

my favorite line of the entire thing was the skinny snot-rag from new york commenting that she wasnt wearing a bra....look around sweetheart....you have less than A-cups....it doesnt matter if you werent wearing a shirt...no one would have noticed.

my wife on the other hand enjoyed the E/F cup woman who did the challenge in her bra and underwear because she only wore a dress to the departure....there are going to be a lot of blur shots while she is in the game.

BrianD · 09-21-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

my first vote would have been for the PG girl without question...yeah ashley was a bit of a wuss with the whole throwing up bit, but the crying after losing the challenge is weak. and then to start barking out orders after the tears were wiped away?! see-ya.

my favorite line of the entire thing was the skinny snot-rag from new york commenting that she wasnt wearing a bra....look around sweetheart....you have less than A-cups....it doesnt matter if you werent wearing a shirt...no one would have noticed.

my wife on the other hand enjoyed the E/F cup woman who did the challenge in her bra and underwear because she only wore a dress to the departure....there are going to be a lot of blur shots while she is in the game.

The New Yorker (Courtney) wasn't the one that made the comment. Jaime is the one that made the comment. The time she made the comment was about the only time you saw her. She at least had something interesting upstairs.

Maple Leafs · 09-21-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Casting Ashley from the WWE doesn't seem to be a publicity stunt on the part of the WWE anyway, since she was trying very hard to keep anyone in the WWE from knowing when she asked for an extended leave earlier in the year. However, as always happens, she let it slip to a close friend and the word got out fast. She subsequently got fired from the WWE IIRC.

This is pretty much the exact opposite of the story I've seen.

saldana · 09-21-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Agreed, James is a beast. Not sure who to root for on the other tribe. I guess Dave by default.

on the preview show i was talking about in post 1, Jeff is talking about james and says something to the effect that he is easily the strongest and post powerful player they have ever had, and that James claims not to work out at all...that he got that way from manually digging graves since he was 13 years old.

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Originally Posted by wade moore

FUCK.

I HATE how survivor changes it's Tivo name every year. Looks like I missed the first episode.

Goddamnit.

they have the full episode available at http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor15/

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Originally Posted by BrianD

The New Yorker (Courtney) wasn't the one that made the comment. Jaime is the one that made the comment. The time she made the comment was about the only time you saw her. She at least had something interesting upstairs.

i went back and checked, and you are correct sir....i didnt actually realize there were two blondes, because like you said, i dont think jamie was ever on screen again.

BrianD · 09-21-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

on the preview show i was talking about in post 1, Jeff is talking about james and says something to the effect that he is easily the strongest and post powerful player they have ever had, and that James claims not to work out at all...that he got that way from manually digging graves since he was 13 years old.

I would buy this. That guy was huge, but I would imagine digging graves is hard work. I hope we see more of him. They seemed to be setting him up as a gentle giant.

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i went back and checked, and you are correct sir....i didnt actually realize there were two blondes, because like you said, i dont think jamie was ever on screen again.

Jaime was a much better person to be stuck without a bra. I can only think that Courtney was such a bitch because she hadn't eaten in the last few weeks. I really wish women wouldn't allow themselves to become so scary thin and I really wish Hollywood and fashion magazines would stop glamorizing that.

Courtney claimed to be a waitress. Anybody believe this is really her chosen profession? She looked like someone that could be trying to break into modeling or acting...

Desmond · 09-21-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

This is pretty much the exact opposite of the story I've seen.

Uhh, yeah, it's totaly false. WWE was in fact, approached by Survivor to send someone and they chose Ashley. I'm not sure why, but that's how it went.

Galaril · 09-21-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I can only think that Courtney was such a bitch because she hadn't eaten in the last few weeks. I really wish women wouldn't allow themselves to become so scary thin and I really wish Hollywood and fashion magazines would stop glamorizing that.

Courtney claimed to be a waitress. Anybody believe this is really her chosen profession? She looked like someone that could be trying to break into modeling or acting...

Or crack-whore!

thealmighty · 09-21-2007, 10:39 PM

Is James from a small town or something? Around here, they dig graves with a backhoe, at least thefew I have seen.

09-15-2007, 09:18 AM	#2
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	um, cuz she's damn hot! This picture has her in bikini's and if that is not ok, a mod can go ahead and delete it....no problem, but dont click on the spoiler tag if you are offended and it's probably NSFW. Spoiler __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL Last edited by Flasch186 : 09-15-2007 at 09:39 AM.

09-15-2007, 09:30 AM	#4
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Spoiler never heard of her

09-15-2007, 10:42 AM	#8
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	'cept hotter __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-15-2007, 01:00 PM	#9
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Spoiler I guess I can understand the WWE Wrestler Ashley because she has big boobs and she's somewhat athletic. What I'm trying to figure out is how Jean Robert-Belande got on the show. He's a professional poker player for those who don't know. Why the hell is he on the show?

09-15-2007, 01:07 PM	#10
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I do this every season, so let's get it out of the way now: using a thread title that welcomes spoilers is pretty pointless since 90% of the people who watch the show want to avoid them at all costs. Seems like you can either have a thread for discussing the show with everyone who watches it, or one where spoilers are possilbe, but not both. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

09-15-2007, 09:28 AM	#3
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	This show's still on?

09-15-2007, 10:31 AM	#6
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	then don't watch

09-15-2007, 01:26 PM	#11
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	she isnt even that hot imo. sure shes easy on the eyes, but not crotch adjusting hot

09-20-2007, 08:48 PM	#14
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Ok, Survivor was interesting. I was surprised at who was voted out. I would go further but I can't figure out how to the spoiler thing the post so I will leave it at that. But I definitely have a few favorites and a couple of contestants that I dislike already.

09-20-2007, 09:15 PM	#16
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I didn't like the New York woman and I seem to be pulling for James the Gravedigger already. OH and they are on the same team, so I'm torn already. Last edited by mauchow : 09-20-2007 at 09:16 PM.

09-21-2007, 04:11 AM	#20
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Talk about dissapointed. I thought this Ashley person was supposed to be hot? She looks butt ugly with fake boobs, add annoying and you have a whole trifecta of reasons to holpe she makes an early exit.

09-21-2007, 07:19 AM	#21
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Casting Ashley from the WWE doesn't seem to be a publicity stunt on the part of the WWE anyway, since she was trying very hard to keep anyone in the WWE from knowing when she asked for an extended leave earlier in the year. However, as always happens, she let it slip to a close friend and the word got out fast. She subsequently got fired from the WWE IIRC.

09-21-2007, 08:16 AM	#25
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Yep. Churchy girl and wrestler girl need to go.

09-21-2007, 09:01 AM	#27
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Dola FWIW, the editors do a very deliberate job of framing the contestants that are going to be among the final few. Someone on another site (TV w/o pity?) analyzed the first episodes for several past seasons and discovered that the players that last the longest in the game are portrayed in the first episode or two as very even-handed, insightful, intelligent, and savvy. On the other hand, contestants that get air time being arrogant, bitchy, whiny, and complainers are voted out early. Using this data, they've predicted the winner of the last 3 Survivors based on the first episode only, and usually get all of the top 2 or 3. Last edited by Toddzilla : 09-21-2007 at 09:02 AM.

09-21-2007, 09:12 AM	#28
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I didn't watch the show, but caught the "greeting" as I was leaving the house. I'm not super religious, but I have my Catholic faith. I wouldn't be able to go through that greeting ceremony either. Doesn't matter what they said, it still looked like they were bowing down in front of Buddha.

09-21-2007, 09:25 AM	#29
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	If God is all knowing, he knows you aren't worshipping Buddha. You can even say it in your head as you're doing it.

09-21-2007, 11:50 AM	#35
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I thought it was funny when the poker guy said he didn't believe that he was a flight attendant. To me, he quite obviously seemed just like a flight attendant.

09-21-2007, 02:38 PM	#38
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Take the deep religious discussions to PM, please. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

09-21-2007, 02:44 PM	#40
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I was done too. I think we've said about all that can be said on the topic. So any bets on how soon before Courtney gets booted? I'm assuming that she is the first off when her tribe has to vote.

09-21-2007, 05:02 PM	#43
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	my first vote would have been for the PG girl without question...yeah ashley was a bit of a wuss with the whole throwing up bit, but the crying after losing the challenge is weak. and then to start barking out orders after the tears were wiped away?! see-ya. my favorite line of the entire thing was the skinny snot-rag from new york commenting that she wasnt wearing a bra....look around sweetheart....you have less than A-cups....it doesnt matter if you werent wearing a shirt...no one would have noticed. my wife on the other hand enjoyed the E/F cup woman who did the challenge in her bra and underwear because she only wore a dress to the departure....there are going to be a lot of blur shots while she is in the game.

09-21-2007, 10:39 PM	#50
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	Is James from a small town or something? Around here, they dig graves with a backhoe, at least thefew I have seen. __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

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