Kramer goes crazy

Deattribution · 11-20-2006, 02:40 PM

There's a video of it currently on TMZ, obviously due the language it's NSFW. I have no idea what the guy said to him, but wow....

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"Kramer's" Racist Tirade -- Caught on Tape
Posted Nov 20th 2006 8:30AM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Train Wrecks

WARNING: WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE IS PROFANE AND RACIAL

Michael Richards exploded in anger as he performed at a famous L.A. comedy club last Friday, hurling racial epithets that left the crowd gasping, and TMZ has obtained exclusive video of the ugly incident.

Richards, who played the wacky Cosmo Kramer on the hit TV show "Seinfeld," appeared onstage at the Laugh Factory in West Hollywood. Kyle Doss, an African-American, told TMZ he and some friends were in the cheap seats and he was playfully heckling Richards when suddenly, the comedian lost it.

The camera started rolling just as Richards began his attack, screaming at one of the men, "Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f***ing fork up your ass."

Richards continued, "You can talk, you can talk, you're brave now motherf**ker. Throw his ass out. He's a nigger! He's a nigger! He's a nigger! A nigger, look, there's a nigger!"

The crowd is visibly and audibly confused and upset. Richards responds by saying, "They're going to arrest me for calling a black man a nigger."

One of the men who was the object of Richard's tirade was outraged, shouting back "That's un-f***ing called for, ain't necessary."

After the three-minute tirade, it appears the majority of the audience members got up and left in disgust.

Attempts to reach Richards' reps were unsuccessful.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-20-2006, 02:41 PM

So, um, what's TMZ?

MizzouRah · 11-20-2006, 02:42 PM

Watched this earlier. Surprised he didn't get a butt whoopin.

Kodos · 11-20-2006, 02:43 PM

There's no shortage of idiots.

Bubba Wheels · 11-20-2006, 02:43 PM

"Please welcome our newest member to the Mel Gibson club!"

I see an awesome SNL coming...

Deattribution · 11-20-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

So, um, what's TMZ?

Hah, honestly I wasn't sure how SFW tmz .com was, since I never frequent it (was sent the link) so I just put the name of the site up there. It seems like it's some kind of AOL news site.

rowech · 11-20-2006, 02:44 PM

At first I thought he was joking but man did he lose it.

wade moore · 11-20-2006, 02:45 PM

Just watched the video.

Wow.

If it's possible, I think it may come off worse in the video than it does in this article.

rkmsuf · 11-20-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Just watched the video.

Wow.

If it's possible, I think it may come off worse in the video than it does in this article.

yeah he lost it. i love how in the article I read that the Laugh Factory put him out there the next night "without incident".

also one article had Seinfeld commenting which came off to me as jerry being a pretentious bore. just shut up seinfeld about it.

albionmoonlight · 11-20-2006, 02:48 PM

This could really hurt his post-Seinfeld acting career.

wade moore · 11-20-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

This could really hurt his post-Seinfeld acting career.

I was actually thinking the opposite

...

stevew · 11-20-2006, 02:55 PM

I can never seem to access tmz's video clips. I get some sort of conflict error, and it won't play, something about return portable media to it's location. I am using ie 7

heybrad · 11-20-2006, 02:56 PM

I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?

rkmsuf · 11-20-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?

From the untrained eye it didn't appear so.

wade moore · 11-20-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

From the untrained eye it didn't appear so.

At FIRST it seemed like maybe it was not so bad, but then he goes on and on...

I mean, I suppose it could be some crazy Andy Kaufmanesque stage.. but it's a damned stupid one if so...

LionsFan10 · 11-20-2006, 02:59 PM

Haha, good. Everybody who thought Michael Richards was acting crazy and or stupid on the show can now see that this man is insane. The fact that he didn't have his ass kicked outside the venue is amazing to me, because he certainly deserved it.

God I hated "Seinfeld."

rkmsuf · 11-20-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

At FIRST it seemed like maybe it was not so bad, but then he goes on and on...

I mean, I suppose it could be some crazy Andy Kaufmanesque stage.. but it's a damned stupid one if so...

seems like an odd thing to stage. would have made more sense if the guys charged the stage and beat him up or something.

although it's a little odd that this performance was being filmed...seems like they wouldn't allow that and it's only on this one aol site.

no idea. at face value he freaked out. otherwise if staged he's known as a dink now. maybe there is some kind of dink project being put together. doesn't seem like him though.

wade moore · 11-20-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

seems like an odd thing to stage. would have made more sense if the guys charged the stage and beat him up or something.

although it's a little odd that this performance was being filmed...seems like they wouldn't allow that and it's only on this one aol site.

no idea. at face value he freaked out. otherwise if staged he's known as a dink now. maybe there is some kind of dink project being put together. doesn't seem like him though.

The video seems very umm... "unprofessional"... like they probably didn't know he had it...

rkmsuf · 11-20-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

The video seems very umm... "unprofessional"... like they probably didn't know he had it...

maybe that's the genius of it

Bubba Wheels · 11-20-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?

Maybe, seems more controlled upon viewing than when I first heard. And Chris Rock does use the word in his act...so what exactly are the rules for that?

Kodos · 11-20-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

The video seems very umm... "unprofessional"... like they probably didn't know he had it...

Jerry must have snuck in a camera.

KevinNU7 · 11-20-2006, 03:12 PM

CNN News Story is on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcz9T3MuL4

Pumpy Tudors · 11-20-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

And Chris Rock does use the word in his act...so what exactly are the rules for that?

Just from a personal standpoint, I was really hoping that this thread wouldn't head in this direction.

KevinNU7 · 11-20-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Just from a personal standpoint, I was really hoping that this thread wouldn't head in this direction.

No kidding. If Chris Rock talked about lynching hecklers I don't think it would go over too well either.

Subby · 11-20-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LionsFan10

God I hated "Seinfeld."

I don't have many litmus tests, but...

stevew · 11-20-2006, 03:19 PM

As far as I know, Chris Rock has never said that he has enough money to get someone arrested either.

Bubba Wheels · 11-20-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Just from a personal standpoint, I was really hoping that this thread wouldn't head in this direction.

I only ask cause Joe Piscapo was on Radio Factor with Schmerconnish (sic) and said 'you can talk about your own, but not someone else's..." Sounds fair to me.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-20-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

... so what exactly are the rules for that?

I think this Paul Rodriguez quote pretty well sums up the rules:
"Once the word comes out of your mouth and you don't happen to be African-American, then you have a whole lot of explaining,"

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D8LH0G1O1.html

JeffNights · 11-20-2006, 03:26 PM

I thought it was fucking hilarious, how can you not see the humor here?

Pumpy Tudors · 11-20-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

I only ask cause Joe Piscapo was on Radio Factor with Schmerconnish (sic) and said 'you can talk about your own, but not someone else's..." Sounds fair to me.

I think this might be a debatable issue if Michael Richards were using the word in his act. This was not his act.

Subby · 11-20-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

I only ask cause Joe Piscapo was on Radio Factor with Schmerconnish (sic) and said 'you can talk about your own, but not someone else's..." Sounds fair to me.

Good to see Piscopo is your go-to-guy on interpersonal etiquette...

JonInMiddleGA · 11-20-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Good to see Piscopo is your go-to-guy on interpersonal etiquette...

Well, Piscopo is (allegedly) a comic, so it would stand to reason that he could have legitimate insight on the subject from a comedian's p.o.v.

Maple Leafs · 11-20-2006, 03:59 PM

In fairness, Richards spent most of his career working on NBC Must-See Thursday nights. These were probably the first black people he'd ever seen.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-20-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

In fairness, Richards spent most of his career working on NBC Must-See Thursday nights. These were probably the first black people he'd ever seen.

Gold.

Bubba Wheels · 11-20-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Good to see Piscopo is your go-to-guy on interpersonal etiquette...

Someone could do alot worse...but I think generally his comments are pretty much the way it is...ethnic jokes are done by those 'in house' otherwise they run the strong risk of appearing bigoted or racist.

I'll also add, other than the indefensible use of the 'n' word, Richard's comments were not really much different than those I have heard on one show in particular (since cancelled) called 'Tough Crowd' with Colin Quinn.

Subby · 11-20-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Someone could do alot worse...but I think generally his comments are pretty much the way it is...ethnic jokes are done by those 'in house' otherwise they run the strong risk of appearing bigoted or racist.

You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime...

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.

Bubba Wheels · 11-20-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime...

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.

Right, like...Andy Kauffman. Not disagreeing with you, just making a point.

If I had the ambition, I would have a runoff poll on comedians like the one with war movies. And I would watch an entire episode of 'Friends' if either Adam Sandler, Jack Black or Will Ferrell made it into the final four.

stevew · 11-20-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime...

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.

I liked the Silverman flick, just thought it was a bit too short maybe.

MylesKnight · 11-20-2006, 04:43 PM

Well you can give Michael Richards this much, he doesn't hide his feelings.

Quite a stand up guy.. What he's standing up for is the question though.

heybrad · 11-20-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

You haven't seen a lot of comedians then.

Rent Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman sometime...

Anyway - just saying there is a huge difference between what Michael Richards did and what comedians who are...you know...telling jokes are doing.

Lisa Lamponelli illustrates your point.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-20-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Someone could do alot worse...but I think generally his comments are pretty much the way it is...ethnic jokes are done by those 'in house' otherwise they run the strong risk of appearing bigoted or racist.

While this is an interesting (and way-too-often debated) point, I have yet to find the "joke" in this whole Michael Richards thing. I don't see how it's possible to compare this to another comedian's act. It seems more fair to compare it to a guy standing on a street corner and yelling at strangers.

Schmidty · 11-20-2006, 05:18 PM

Although I think using the n-word is in bad taste, people are way over the top in their sensitivity toward it; HOWEVER, the fact that he mentioned lynching was absolutely horrific. I really hope he was trying to be Kauffman-esque and doesn't truly hold that much hate in his heart.

Maple Leafs · 11-20-2006, 05:40 PM

Here it is on Youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjE0E5lgm9Q

You guys were right, it's even worse than the article makes it sound.

ctmason · 11-20-2006, 05:45 PM

This just in, KKK leaders react, calling "The Michael Richards Show," a "funny piece of progressive television that was clearly before its time."

Karlifornia · 11-20-2006, 05:48 PM

Jackie Chiles will be crushed when he hears the news.

illinifan999 · 11-20-2006, 05:57 PM

I like how the guys response is to call him a cracker-ass and a fucking white boy. Fire with fire.

Joe · 11-20-2006, 06:02 PM

Seinfeld is on Letterman tonight.. and Richards will be apologizing via satellite.

MizzouRah · 11-20-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

I like how the guys response is to call him a cracker-ass and a fucking white boy. Fire with fire.

Pumpy called me that once... but also added, "country hick" and something about "go plow a field".

stevew · 11-20-2006, 06:17 PM

Seems hella staged. But it also sounds as if he has hate in his heart, so who knows. Definately has way too much "ger" instead of "gah."

stevew · 11-20-2006, 06:22 PM

I was also waiting for him to say he was going to "unleash the fucking fury" too.

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LionsFan10 High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Detroit, MI, U.S.A	Haha, good. Everybody who thought Michael Richards was acting crazy and or stupid on the show can now see that this man is insane. The fact that he didn't have his ass kicked outside the venue is amazing to me, because he certainly deserved it. God I hated "Seinfeld." __________________ It's true, it's true.

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JeffNights College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan	I thought it was fucking hilarious, how can you not see the humor here? Last edited by JeffNights : 11-20-2006 at 03:27 PM.

11-20-2006, 02:42 PM	#3
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Watched this earlier. Surprised he didn't get a butt whoopin.

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	There's no shortage of idiots.

11-20-2006, 02:44 PM	#7
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	At first I thought he was joking but man did he lose it.

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albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	This could really hurt his post-Seinfeld acting career.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I can never seem to access tmz's video clips. I get some sort of conflict error, and it won't play, something about return portable media to it's location. I am using ie 7

11-20-2006, 02:56 PM	#13
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	I haven't watched the video yet, but I know he was a big Andy Kaufman fan. Any chance this could have been staged?

11-20-2006, 03:19 PM	#26
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	As far as I know, Chris Rock has never said that he has enough money to get someone arrested either.

11-20-2006, 03:59 PM	#33
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	In fairness, Richards spent most of his career working on NBC Must-See Thursday nights. These were probably the first black people he'd ever seen. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

11-20-2006, 04:43 PM	#39
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Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Although I think using the n-word is in bad taste, people are way over the top in their sensitivity toward it; HOWEVER, the fact that he mentioned lynching was absolutely horrific. I really hope he was trying to be Kauffman-esque and doesn't truly hold that much hate in his heart.

11-20-2006, 05:40 PM	#43
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Here it is on Youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjE0E5lgm9Q You guys were right, it's even worse than the article makes it sound. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I like how the guys response is to call him a cracker-ass and a fucking white boy. Fire with fire. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

11-20-2006, 06:02 PM	#47
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	Seinfeld is on Letterman tonight.. and Richards will be apologizing via satellite.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Seems hella staged. But it also sounds as if he has hate in his heart, so who knows. Definately has way too much "ger" instead of "gah."

11-20-2006, 06:22 PM	#50
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I was also waiting for him to say he was going to "unleash the fucking fury" too.

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