Plane hits a building in Austin

cartman · 02-18-2010, 11:01 AM

Holy shit, this is less than a mile from my office. I can see the smoke.

Plane crashes into building in Austin, Texas - CNN.com

bigdawg2003 · 02-18-2010, 11:20 AM

I was driving from Leander on 183-S and drove by the building. Didn't know a plane had hit it until I got back to my office. Very sad

KWhit · 02-18-2010, 11:50 AM

Word is that this was deliberate. Evidently, it is an IRS building.

KWhit · 02-18-2010, 11:51 AM

CNN:

12:42 p.m.: The pilot of the plane had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally, a federal official told CNN.

flere-imsaho · 02-18-2010, 11:55 AM

Tea Partier?

Kodos · 02-18-2010, 11:56 AM

Certainly a better option than paying taxes.

cartman · 02-18-2010, 12:03 PM

One of my buddies works for Gemalto, which is in the building right next to this one. He's heading home, they've shut off power to the area so that rescue crews can safely get to some parts of the building that was hit.

KWhit · 02-18-2010, 12:04 PM

Now CNN is saying it's next door to an FBI building but the building itself may not be an IRS building.

lighthousekeeper · 02-18-2010, 12:08 PM

I was working a few blocks from there yesterday.

cartman · 02-18-2010, 12:22 PM

There is a huge IRS campus in south Austin. If this was done intentionally, he must have known his target worked in that building, rather than just picking an IRS target at random.

cartman · 02-18-2010, 12:26 PM

Apparently the guy posted a lengthy diatribe this morning:

Austin news, sports, weather, Longhorns, business | Statesman.com

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-18-2010, 12:31 PM

Dear Joe,

tl;dr

Signed,

Sane People

KWhit · 02-18-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Apparently the guy posted a lengthy diatribe this morning:

Austin news, sports, weather, Longhorns, business | Statesman.com

Wow. Just read that (most of it, anyway).

Yeah, he was going after the IRS all right.

KWhit · 02-18-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Guy

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

Sheesh.

KWhit · 02-18-2010, 12:43 PM

Weird.

The Department of Homeland Security has made multiple statements about this and keep saying "This is not terrorism." So, um... It was (by all accounts) someone deliberately flying a plane into government offices as a response to our government's policies.

If not that, WTF is terrorism?

cartman · 02-18-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Weird.

The Department of Homeland Security has made multiple statements about this and keep saying "This is not terrorism." So, um... It was (by all accounts) someone deliberately flying a plane into government offices as a response to our government's policies.

If not that, WTF is terrorism?

He's a white guy, expressing his patriotism in his own unique way.

Antmeister · 02-18-2010, 12:47 PM

I work right across the freeway from this disaster two of my coworkers saw this as it happened. If I was here a bit earlier, I would have witnessed it myself, but luckily I didn't.

One of my co-workers saw the plane as he drove past the building on his way to work, heard the crash and drove back around to take pics:

wade moore · 02-18-2010, 12:50 PM

SportsDino · 02-18-2010, 12:54 PM

Ya, it is terrorism pretty plain and clear.

Chief Rum · 02-18-2010, 01:00 PM

Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building?

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.

Antmeister · 02-18-2010, 01:02 PM

To be honest, neither did I. I know of cartman and no one else.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-18-2010, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building?

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.

I was chatting with Bill Harris about this situation. He works a couple hundred yards from this building. I'm sure he'll post about his experience on his blog in the coming days.

kingfc22 · 02-18-2010, 01:10 PM

Ummmm where do all these nutbags come from. Yeesh.

Antmeister · 02-18-2010, 01:13 PM

Well the creepy thing is that he burned his house which is less than half a mile from where I live and he crashed a plane less than half a mile from where I work. Sad and disturbing to know how many lives he just turned upside down. In fact reports say that his wife and daughter left the house to stay at a hotel because he was going on a tirade yesterday. They returned in the morning to see their house burned down and would soon learn of the crash. Geez.

albionmoonlight · 02-18-2010, 01:14 PM

Asshole.

Dr. Sak · 02-18-2010, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.

Surprising that the world doesn't revolve around the West Coast I see...

Chief Rum · 02-18-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Surprising that the world doesn't revolve around the West Coast I see...

Heh...if anyone out here was under that delusion, it would be quickly removed by turning on ESPN.

DeToxRox · 02-18-2010, 01:24 PM

Well Mr. Big Brother IRS man... take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

Apparently this is the guy who crashed into the buildings manifest.

ISiddiqui · 02-18-2010, 01:24 PM

Just read his internet screed. Damn... seemed to be anti-government and anti-corporation - kind of the government and corporations are screwing over the middle class, so I'll show them type of terrorist action.

ace1914 · 02-18-2010, 01:29 PM

Just can't tell who is the terrorist nowadays.

cartman · 02-18-2010, 01:30 PM

Yeah, the Internet Time Masheen shows that website as being for his programming company, before he changed the front page.

DaddyTorgo · 02-18-2010, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building?

I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX.

seriously - you guys could have an epic fucking meetup

cartman · 02-18-2010, 01:38 PM

When I read this part of the screed:

Quote:

. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change.

It immediately brought to mind this:

No, I don't have a South Park problem. I can stop watching anytime I want.

DaddyTorgo · 02-18-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Ummmm where do all these nutbags come from. Yeesh.

Texas?

sterlingice · 02-18-2010, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

He's a white guy, expressing his patriotism in his own unique way.

Bingo.

SI

sterlingice · 02-18-2010, 02:27 PM

Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well.

Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho.

SI

cartman · 02-18-2010, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well.

Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho.

SI

or setting your house on fire, right??? RIGHT???

sterlingice · 02-18-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

or setting your house on fire, right??? RIGHT???

Well, I have no house to set on fire so that'd be a tough one. I do have an apartment but that probably voids my security deposit, I'm guessing.

SI

Tigercat · 02-18-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

or setting your house on fire, right??? RIGHT???

Are there IRS people inside his house at the time?

Dutch · 02-18-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister

I work right across the freeway from this disaster two of my coworkers saw this as it happened. If I was here a bit earlier, I would have witnessed it myself, but luckily I didn't.

One of my co-workers saw the plane as he drove past the building on his way to work, heard the crash and drove back around to take pics:

This is absolutely disgusting in this day and age...who still gets their damn picture taking finger in the way when they shoot pics????

CU Tiger · 02-18-2010, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well.

Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho.

SI

+1

molson · 02-18-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

This is absolutely disgusting in this day and age...who still gets their damn picture taking finger in the way when they shoot pics????

Seriously - I think my mother must have taken that picture.

So I just skimmed this guy's "manifesto" - he's basically just a tax cheat that blames everyone else for his crimes. No different than a lot of criminals (except that he can fly an airplane)

Arles · 02-18-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

He's a white guy, expressing his patriotism in his own unique way.

There is no terrorism in the Obama-led US. Just a bunch of people who may beefs with us but who aren't actual terrorists. That word is just too scary.

DaddyTorgo · 02-18-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

There is no terrorism in the Obama-led US. Just a bunch of people who may beefs with us but who aren't actual terrorists. That word is just too scary.

Do you really believe that, or are you just trying to be intentionally asshattish?

sterlingice · 02-18-2010, 02:41 PM

With regards to the "manifesto": they're cogent, rational thoughts with a reasonably complex thought process behind them. I just don't agree with what he did with said thoughts. And I'm sure there's probably a story that will come out with them.

SI

Tigercat · 02-18-2010, 02:45 PM

I find it hard to sympathize with the words of a guy who implies that he is in money trouble, and yet owns a private plane. (And one of his admitted issues is his recent purchase of a piano.)

panerd · 02-18-2010, 02:45 PM

False flag to discredit the anti-government movement?

DaddyTorgo · 02-18-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat

I find it hard to sympathize with the words of a guy who implies that he is in money trouble, and yet owns a private plane. (And one of his admitted issues is his recent purchase of a piano.)

i thought he stole the plane?

path12 · 02-18-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

False flag to discredit the anti-government movement?

Wait. You think dude flew the plane into the building to smear the teabaggers?

This must be the new Godwin.

Antmeister · 02-18-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Surprising that the world doesn't revolve around the West Coast I see...

Well actually, the guy is a Cali transplant, just like me.

02-18-2010, 11:55 AM	#5
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Tea Partier? Last edited by flere-imsaho : 02-18-2010 at 11:55 AM.

02-18-2010, 11:56 AM	#6
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Certainly a better option than paying taxes. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

02-18-2010, 12:03 PM	#7
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	One of my buddies works for Gemalto, which is in the building right next to this one. He's heading home, they've shut off power to the area so that rescue crews can safely get to some parts of the building that was hit. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-18-2010, 12:08 PM	#9
lighthousekeeper College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I was working a few blocks from there yesterday. __________________ ...

02-18-2010, 12:22 PM	#10
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	There is a huge IRS campus in south Austin. If this was done intentionally, he must have known his target worked in that building, rather than just picking an IRS target at random. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 02-18-2010 at 12:22 PM.

02-18-2010, 11:50 AM	#3
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Word is that this was deliberate. Evidently, it is an IRS building.

02-18-2010, 11:51 AM	#4
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	CNN: 12:42 p.m.: The pilot of the plane had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally, a federal official told CNN.

02-18-2010, 12:04 PM	#8
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Now CNN is saying it's next door to an FBI building but the building itself may not be an IRS building.

02-18-2010, 12:26 PM	#11
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Apparently the guy posted a lengthy diatribe this morning: Austin news, sports, weather, Longhorns, business \| Statesman.com __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Dear Joe, tl;dr Signed, Sane People __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

02-18-2010, 12:43 PM	#15
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Weird. The Department of Homeland Security has made multiple statements about this and keep saying "This is not terrorism." So, um... It was (by all accounts) someone deliberately flying a plane into government offices as a response to our government's policies. If not that, WTF is terrorism?

02-18-2010, 12:47 PM	#17
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	I work right across the freeway from this disaster two of my coworkers saw this as it happened. If I was here a bit earlier, I would have witnessed it myself, but luckily I didn't. One of my co-workers saw the plane as he drove past the building on his way to work, heard the crash and drove back around to take pics: __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew Last edited by Antmeister : 02-18-2010 at 12:52 PM.

02-18-2010, 12:54 PM	#19
SportsDino College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2001	Ya, it is terrorism pretty plain and clear.

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Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Man, just how many of you people live and work around this building? I never realized how much FOFC revolved around Austin, TX. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	To be honest, neither did I. I know of cartman and no one else. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

02-18-2010, 01:10 PM	#23
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Ummmm where do all these nutbags come from. Yeesh. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-18-2010, 01:13 PM	#24
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Well the creepy thing is that he burned his house which is less than half a mile from where I live and he crashed a plane less than half a mile from where I work. Sad and disturbing to know how many lives he just turned upside down. In fact reports say that his wife and daughter left the house to stay at a hotel because he was going on a tirade yesterday. They returned in the morning to see their house burned down and would soon learn of the crash. Geez. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

02-18-2010, 01:14 PM	#25
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Asshole.

02-18-2010, 01:24 PM	#28
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Well Mr. Big Brother IRS man... take my pound of flesh and sleep well. Apparently this is the guy who crashed into the buildings manifest.

02-18-2010, 01:24 PM	#29
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Just read his internet screed. Damn... seemed to be anti-government and anti-corporation - kind of the government and corporations are screwing over the middle class, so I'll show them type of terrorist action. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-18-2010, 01:29 PM	#30
ace1914 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2007	Just can't tell who is the terrorist nowadays.

02-18-2010, 01:30 PM	#31
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Yeah, the Internet Time Masheen shows that website as being for his programming company, before he changed the front page. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-18-2010, 02:27 PM	#36
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Scary thing is that I agree with a lot of what the guy writes in his rant. It's pretty non-partisan, taking whacks at everyone out there on a variety of issues. And, frankly, it's a lot of the same stuff I know I talk about at work all the time and probably a lot of others do as well. Not planning on flying a plane into a building any time soon to prove a point, tho. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-18-2010 at 02:28 PM.

02-18-2010, 02:41 PM	#45
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	With regards to the "manifesto": they're cogent, rational thoughts with a reasonably complex thought process behind them. I just don't agree with what he did with said thoughts. And I'm sure there's probably a story that will come out with them. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-18-2010 at 02:42 PM.

02-18-2010, 02:45 PM	#46
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	I find it hard to sympathize with the words of a guy who implies that he is in money trouble, and yet owns a private plane. (And one of his admitted issues is his recent purchase of a piano.)

02-18-2010, 02:45 PM	#47
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	False flag to discredit the anti-government movement?

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