MSU loses to La Tech!

tucker rocky · 09-13-2003, 04:17 PM

Like I said in a previous thread,Michigan is the only legitimate team that has a shot at beating Ohio State.

The Afoci · 09-13-2003, 04:22 PM

Like I have said, Purdue is a tough team. At Penn State can never be consider a given. Wisconsin has a big offense and if they play well, have a chance. Iowa is a good squad. Never under estimate what teams will do when playing the "best team" in the conference.

The Afoci · 09-13-2003, 04:26 PM

Arkansas beat Texas today. Do you think that when people were looking at Texas's schedule, they were thinking, hmm, that Arkansas game is a toss up. No. They were thinking win, but that is why they play the games. Does this mean that Arkansas is a better team than Texas. No, but they were today. If they played 10 times, it probably would be a 8-2 split or 7-3 for Texas, but Arkansas won the one that mattered.

hollmt · 09-13-2003, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by tucker rocky
Like I said in a previous thread,Michigan is the only legitimate team that has a shot at beating Ohio State.

Well then according to your theory, lets go ahead and give OSU a new record of 11-0. Michigan can have a record of 11-0 too. I guess there is no reason to play the rest of the season now cause you have it all figured out.
So now, OSU is 11-0, and people can bitch about how they were given 8 more victories that they didnt earn, and we can listen to that garbage for another year.

JeeberD · 09-13-2003, 06:28 PM

Go WAC!!!

Racer · 09-13-2003, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tucker rocky
Like I said in a previous thread,Michigan is the only legitimate team that has a shot at beating Ohio State.

IU baby! IU!

tucker342 · 09-13-2003, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by tucker rocky
Like I said in a previous thread,Michigan is the only legitimate team that has a shot at beating Ohio State.

And Michigan State had a chance?!?!?!

Ohio State isn't that good! Lots of teams have a chance this year, Purdue, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, hell basically every team beside Michigan State, Indiana, and Northwestern.

ice4277 · 09-14-2003, 12:21 AM

Sparty will win about one game in the Big Ten this year; I have no doubt John L. will turn that program around but at this point, the previous regime has left him a sinking ship.

dixieflatline · 09-15-2003, 01:38 PM

Well I would like to think that the Spartans will win more than one game in conference this year but the schedule isn't so kind.

Iowa
Indiana
At Illinois
At Minnesota
Michigan
At Ohio State
At Wisconsin
Penn State

Not to use this as an excuse but their starting QB got knocked out of the game in the first half and La Tech did get a little bit lucky near the end with an onside kick and such. I think they could win three in the big ten but two wins is probably more likely. Ice why do you have so much confidence in Jon L? He may be able to turn the ship around but I certainly have doubts. After Saban left the program has certainly fallen.

ice4277 · 09-15-2003, 03:12 PM

Maybe because after seeing the disaster known as the Bobby Williams show for a couple years John L. seems like Jesus.

Truthfully, he seems extremely enthusiastic and seems like he really cares about the program. I always thought the Williams experiment was going to end in a mess, but it was worse than I thought it would be; nobody gave a shit in that program last year. You are not going to see that out of Smith, and, really MSU shouldn't be as bad as they often are. Nice campus, East Lansing is a great city (much better place to spend time than Ann Arbor IMO), and a huge student body/fanbase in the area that is dying for a winner; just look at the basketball program.

dixieflatline · 09-15-2003, 05:06 PM

Yes those Bobby Williams years were hard to take. What Saban brought to the school was some great recruits. Julian Peterson, Robare Smith, Plexico, T. J. Charles Rodgers all playing pretty well in the NFL all recruited under Saban. If Jon L. is going to turn things around he is going to have to convince the kids in Flint and Detroit that MSU is the place to play and not ND, Michigan, OSU etc. We will see if he can do that.

tucker342 · 09-15-2003, 07:45 PM

That will be very hard for him to convince those kids to go to MSU instead of Michigan....

09-13-2003, 04:22 PM	#2
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	Like I have said, Purdue is a tough team. At Penn State can never be consider a given. Wisconsin has a big offense and if they play well, have a chance. Iowa is a good squad. Never under estimate what teams will do when playing the "best team" in the conference. __________________ I had something.

09-13-2003, 04:26 PM	#3
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	Arkansas beat Texas today. Do you think that when people were looking at Texas's schedule, they were thinking, hmm, that Arkansas game is a toss up. No. They were thinking win, but that is why they play the games. Does this mean that Arkansas is a better team than Texas. No, but they were today. If they played 10 times, it probably would be a 8-2 split or 7-3 for Texas, but Arkansas won the one that mattered. __________________ I had something.

09-13-2003, 06:28 PM	#5
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Go WAC!!! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

09-14-2003, 12:21 AM	#8
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Sparty will win about one game in the Big Ten this year; I have no doubt John L. will turn that program around but at this point, the previous regime has left him a sinking ship.

09-15-2003, 01:38 PM	#9
dixieflatline High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2003	Well I would like to think that the Spartans will win more than one game in conference this year but the schedule isn't so kind. Iowa Indiana At Illinois At Minnesota Michigan At Ohio State At Wisconsin Penn State Not to use this as an excuse but their starting QB got knocked out of the game in the first half and La Tech did get a little bit lucky near the end with an onside kick and such. I think they could win three in the big ten but two wins is probably more likely. Ice why do you have so much confidence in Jon L? He may be able to turn the ship around but I certainly have doubts. After Saban left the program has certainly fallen.

09-15-2003, 03:12 PM	#10
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Maybe because after seeing the disaster known as the Bobby Williams show for a couple years John L. seems like Jesus. Truthfully, he seems extremely enthusiastic and seems like he really cares about the program. I always thought the Williams experiment was going to end in a mess, but it was worse than I thought it would be; nobody gave a shit in that program last year. You are not going to see that out of Smith, and, really MSU shouldn't be as bad as they often are. Nice campus, East Lansing is a great city (much better place to spend time than Ann Arbor IMO), and a huge student body/fanbase in the area that is dying for a winner; just look at the basketball program.

09-15-2003, 05:06 PM	#11
dixieflatline High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2003	Yes those Bobby Williams years were hard to take. What Saban brought to the school was some great recruits. Julian Peterson, Robare Smith, Plexico, T. J. Charles Rodgers all playing pretty well in the NFL all recruited under Saban. If Jon L. is going to turn things around he is going to have to convince the kids in Flint and Detroit that MSU is the place to play and not ND, Michigan, OSU etc. We will see if he can do that.

09-15-2003, 07:45 PM	#12
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	That will be very hard for him to convince those kids to go to MSU instead of Michigan....

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