2008 Top Gun Game A - DRAFT THREAD

[Radii]

Game Rules:

1) Each participant drafts a team of 6 players.
2) Snake draft done on the forum.
3) You score as many points as each of your drafted players scores in the NCAA tournament.
4) One of your players must be from a team seeded 10th or lower.


Draft Rules:

There is a 1 hour clock that will run from 10am to 4pm eastern time Monday through Wednesday of next week. Drafting may begin immediately after the selection show ends. If a person has not sent a draft list and is unable to pick when the clock is running, I will auto-draft the top scorer who is on a team in the NCAA tournament from this list:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/leader...oring&sort=AVG

If the draft is moving too slowly I reserve the right to extend the clock later in the week (ie have it from fro 10am-7pm if necessary to guarentee we finish).


Game A Participants and Draft Order

1. Karlifornia
2. Shorty3281
3. Eaglesfan27
4. sooner333
5. sublime 2
6. stevew
7. hoopsguy
8. Neuqua


EDIT: shifting around the draft order to give this the best chance of moving along!

[Radii]

Draft Results

1.1. Tyler Hansbrough, North Carolina (Karlifornia)
1.2. Kevin Love, UCLA (Shorty3281)
1.3. Wayne Ellington, North Carolina (Eaglesfan27)
1.4. DJ Augustin, Texas (sooner333)
1.5. Brandon Rush, Kansas (sublime 2)
1.6. Chris Douglas-Roberts, Memphis (stevew)
1.7. Darren Collison, UCLA (hoopsguy)
1.8 Roy Hibbert, Georgetown (Neuqua)

2.1 Sam Young, Pitt (Neuqua)
2.2 Mario Chalmers, Kansas (hoopsguy)
2.3 Eric Gordon, Indiana (stevew)
2.4 Brook Lopez, Stanford (sublime 2)
2.5 Chris Lofton, Tennessee (sooner333)
2.6 OJ Mayo, USC (Eaglesfan27)
2.7 AJ Abrams, Texas (Shorty3281)
2.8 Shan Foster, Vanderbilt (Karlifornia)

3.1 Kyle Singler, Duke (Karlifornia)
3.2 A.J. Price, Connecticut (Shorty3281)
3.3 Derrick Rose, Memphis (Eaglesfan27)
3.4 Josh Shipp, UCLA (sooner333)
3.5 Demarcus Nelson, Duke (sublime 2)
3.6 Johnathon Wallace, Georgetown (stevew)
3.7 Ty Lawson, North Carolina (hoopsguy)
3.8 Danny Green, North Carolina (Neuqua)

4.1 Luke Harangody, Notre Dame (Neuqua)
4.2 Darrell Arthur, Kansas (hoopsguy)
4.3 Michael Beasley, Kansas State (stevew)
4.4 Tyler Smith, Tennessee (sublime 2)
4.5 Stephen Curry, Davidson (sooner333)
4.6 Russell Westbrook, UCLA (Eaglesfan27)
4.7 JaJuan Smith, Tennessee (Shorty3281)
4.8 Derrick Low,Washington State (Karlifornia)


5.1 Jerryd Bayless, Arizona (Karlifornia)
5.2 David Padgett, Louisville (Shorty3281)
5.3 Dionte Christmas, Temple (Eaglesfan27)
5.4 Frank Alexander, West Virginia (sooner333)
5.5 Chase Buddinger, Arizona (sublime 2)
5.6 Josh Young, Drake (stevew)
5.7 Jeff Adrian, UConn (hoopsguy)
5.8 Brian Butch, Wisconsin (Neuqua)

6.1 Pat Calathes, Saint Joseph's (Neuqua)
6.2 Curtis Jerrells - Baylor (hoopsguy)
6.3 KC Rivers, Clemson, (stevew)
6.4 A.J. Ogilvy, Vanderbilt (Sublime 2)
6.5 Damion James, Texas (sooner333)
6.6 Drew Lavender, Xavier (Eaglesfan27)
6.7 Demetric Bennett, South Alabama (Shorty3281)
6.8 Robin Lopez, Stanford (Karlifornia)

[korme]

2nd pick, Oh snap!

I will be going out for St. Patties tomorrow, so whereever we are at when I am about to leave, I will make a nice list and send it to Radii

[Karlifornia]

First pick? Too much pressure.

[Karlifornia]

With the first pick, I select Tyler Hansbrough-North Carolina

[Radii]

the second post will be used to track the picks. Oh also, please PM the person after you when you make a pick!

[korme]

Pick 2: Charron Fisher, Niagara

Just kidding.

This was difficult, but go Bruins! Kevin Love, UCLA

[Eaglesfan27]

If I was going to pick anyone from Niagara, it would be Willie Andres

[Radii]

PM box is nice and empty for lists. Remember that the clock starts at 10am eastern time and we will get through 1 pick an hour minimum until 4pm. If we get through a bunch we'll keep it like that, if its slow we'll extend it from like 10am-6pm. If you're not sure you can be online during that time, make sure you have PM'd me a list!

[hoopsguy]

Bump - clock starts at 10AM EST?

[Radii]

yup, goldeneagle is on the clock

[stevew]

I sent a list that might get me through round 3. Like was noted, just don't take multiple players on the same team.

[stevew]

Just a thought, but isn't beasley maybe the best "seed over 10" player ever available, at least since we've played top gun?

[Radii]

Originally Posted by stevew

Just a thought, but isn't beasley maybe the best "seed over 10" player ever available?

yeah, probably so. Last year it was some guy on a 16 seed. Durant was high up on the list but didn't last long enough to get auto-picked of course.

[stevew]

I would assume GE would take Douglas-Roberts at this slot. Neq's making slurpees all day() so i dunno if he sent a list or not.

[Radii]

no list from neuqua, ugh. And yeah its pretty much a certainty who GE would take, but its not really fair to everyone else who we don't know who they'd take, etc.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've been around and will be checking the board every hour or so.

[Radii]

edited out, nothing to see here.

[Radii]

In past years, we've allowed people who get autopicked for to pull a Vikings and replace their pick whenever they show up if they'd like.

[Radii]

stevew is Neuqua definitely gone all day?

[sooner333]

Is Beasley really a fair person to allow to switch out. If it were some guy from Coppin State, I'd understand, but Beasley is a pretty valuable guy for a double-digit seed and we're taking away opportunities to take him with our picks.

I say we PM everyone who is in this, and then try to re-start sometime in the afternoon. It seems like some people didn't get the memo.

[stevew]

I believe the rule has always been that the autopicks go by best scorer overall left who's team is in the tourney. So Beasely fills that mold, which is suprising. Cause normally you would get some dude from coppin state.
But yeah, i see your point about switching him out.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Radii

stevew is Neuqua definitely gone all day?

I wouldn't be suprised. I think he get's aim's on his phone, but it doesn't look like he's online.

[stevew]

I wonder if EF is going to go with the homer pick at slot 5. Actually most likely that's who i'd take regardless.

[stevew]

I guess Neq's going to get Stephen Curry, Davidson

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by stevew

I wonder if EF is going to go with the homer pick at slot 5. Actually most likely that's who i'd take regardless.

Heh. I guess we'll see

[Radii]

yeah, looks that way. We've had slow starts before that pick up in the afternoon or monday evening, no worries yet!

Eaglesfan, you'll be up in about 15 minutes at the latest if you are still around and checking in!

[Radii]

hah, guess EF is around and checking in, huh

[Eaglesfan27]

I'll be driving to work in 15 minutes. I leave to drive to work in 5 minutes, but I'll be back on in 35 or so

[Radii]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Is Beasley really a fair person to allow to switch out. If it were some guy from Coppin State, I'd understand, but Beasley is a pretty valuable guy for a double-digit seed and we're taking away opportunities to take him with our picks.

I wish I'd put it in the "official" rules in the original post. On one hand it sucks getting auto picked for and can kill the fun of the game. But you're right, I have received more than one list with Beasley's name on it somewhere. And there are a couple other 20+ point scorers that aren't of the 16 seed screwjob variety as well, but probably aren't what most people really want to be getting early on...

not really sure what the best way to go is there, thoughts?

[Eaglesfan27]

I don't want to take the fun out of this for GE, but you were clear about when this started and I don't think you can allow a switchout on one of the top scorers in the tourney whose team has a fair shot at advancing. Shrug.

Also, I'm leaving now. I'll make my pick in about 30 minutes when I get to work.

[dacman]

I'd change it up to only autopick the best scorer from say a 1-6 seed, unless that team is down to the last pick and doesn't have a player from a 10+ seed.

[stevew]

I'd say in this scenerio, anyways, it might be best to slide GE and Neq to the end of the first round instead of autopicking. One guys getting beasely, the other will get Curry from davidson if we autopick, but those clearly aren't the best players. If either surfaces before the end of the first round, they can pick at any point, and will get locked in snake order from that point on.

Pushing both of them to 8 and 9 should take us to the end of the day today.

Or just autodraft douglas roberts for GE, and slide nequa to the end of the draft.

[Radii]

nothing to see here!

[Radii]

I like the idea of just dropping them down to the end of the draft order, GE 8th/Neuq 9th for the duration. Both are big college fans and reliable on the board and this gives everyone the best chance to make all their own picks.

Any objections to that? I've seen everyone else in the thread today so I think that'd get us moving a bit here!

[korme]

I don't know why everyone's crying about Beasley. If I had to waste pick 1.3 on him, I would be pissed. I've got probably 20 names ahead of him. Remember guys, he's a freakin 11 seed!

[Eaglesfan27]

I think moving them down in the draft order is a good solution.

Internet at work is acting up a bit, but IT seems to have it fixed now..

No homer pick for me, as it is much too early for him to go.

I'll take Wayne Ellington, UNC.

[Radii]

Alright, we're moving GoldenEagle and Neuqua to the end of the draft to try to keep things moving w/o having to make an annoying decision on autopicks that is going to suck for someone!


Once we make it down to GE's pick that's now at the end of the first round, we're going to stick with the original rules as stated, top scorer, send lists, etc, no substituting picks out, etc. (Hint, send lists)

Next year a rule like dacman suggested would be a good change probably.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

Forgot to bold it, and don't want to edit so:

Wayne Ellington, UNC.

[Radii]

sooner's up, PM'd him.


go go tar heel picks!

[sooner333]

D.J. Augustin texas

[stevew]

I'm around, so no need to list pick for me this round.

[Radii]

sublime 2 is up, I PMd him a bit ago, he was on not too long ago!

[Sublime 2]

I'm here, pick to come shortly.

[Sublime 2]

Brandon Rush - Kansas

[Radii]

stevew's up, i have a list from him but will wait a bit, he's been around all day and mentioned wanting to make his pick

[stevew]

Chris douglas-roberts Memphis.

[Radii]

hoopsguy is up, same as before, i have a list but waiting a little bit for him

[hoopsguy]

I'll take Collison from UCLA.

[hoopsguy]

Radii, thanks for providing a little window there, even if I did go with the top pick on my list.