Tom Cruise on Leno

Lathum · 06-08-2005, 11:01 PM

god I wanna puke.

Ksyrup · 06-08-2005, 11:03 PM

I know...Leno really sucks, doesn't he?

Lathum · 06-08-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I know...Leno really sucks, doesn't he?

I don't think you understood me

Honolulu_Blue · 06-08-2005, 11:07 PM

Going from the Daily Show to this is just painful...

sovereignstar · 06-08-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Tom Cruise on Leno

Just why? Are you a little tipsy?

Lathum · 06-08-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Going from the Daily Show to this is just painful...

Kind of like being heads up in a poker tournament and losing?

Ksyrup · 06-08-2005, 11:11 PM

I've got to be up in 5 hours, so let a man have his fun when he can. I knew what you meant - well sorta. I don't watch that crap, but I can only imagine what a giddy school girl Tom is coming off as tonight. The backstage discussion is better, though:

Tom Cruise And Katie Holmes Take The Next, Carefully-Orchestrated Step?

“Look, we both know that no one’s buying into our relationship. Oprah was a fucking disaster. Would it have been so hard for you to come on stage without me putting you in a half-nelson and marching you on stage like you were about to face a firing squad? Well, now we’re both fucked. I’m invoking the emergency clause, and as you’re well aware, you’re contractually obligated to go along with me as we step it up another notch. Yes, moving in together. Yes, engagement. And yes, Scientology. All of it. And I’ll set you up with some bigger people at CAA, but first you’ve got to show a little enthusiasm, OK? I don’t like all this making out stuff any more than you do, but you’ve gotta lose the condom on your tongue. Sooner or later, some paparazzi’s gonna catch that on film, it’s gonna wind up on the internet, and then we’re gonna need to have that little scuba-diving accident we talked about. Oh, for L.Ron’s sake! I hate thinly-veiled death threats. I have to get back to the Centre and knock out some Thetans. And yes, you’re coming with me.”

ThunderingHERD · 06-08-2005, 11:20 PM

Didn't see him on Leno, but am I the only one here who thinks Tom Cruise is straight?

(but also a complete nutjob)

Ksyrup · 06-08-2005, 11:22 PM

He's fruity, I'm just not sure how many ways that applies.

Neuqua · 06-08-2005, 11:24 PM

I'm jealous of Tom Cruise.

Galaxy · 06-08-2005, 11:24 PM

Anything good happen on Leno? I think Cruise is destroying his career.

Desnudo · 06-08-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Didn't see him on Leno, but am I the only one here who thinks Tom Cruise is straight?

(but also a complete nutjob)

I think he's straight.

MrBug708 · 06-08-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

I'm jealous of Tom Cruise.

Some of us settle for average looking girls...

Maple Leafs · 06-09-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Didn't see him on Leno, but am I the only one here who thinks Tom Cruise is straight?

(but also a complete nutjob)

I think he's straight. And I think he's a decent actor who generally makes very good movies.

rkmsuf · 06-09-2005, 08:47 AM

War of the otherworldly: Cruise's faith in Scientology threatens film
By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
Published : 03 June 2005

Is Hollywood's biggest male star losing it? In the past few days, Tom Cruise has been hauled over the coals for allowing his devotion to Scientology to overshadow his film career, ridiculed for a seemingly loopy appearance on Oprah Winfrey's daytime chat show and accused of conducting a sham romance with the younger actress Katie Holmes strictly for publicity purposes.

Ordinarily, such chatter would be no more than background gossip in a town that thrives on gossip, little or none of it substantiated.

But Cruise's recent behaviour has been so spectacularly off-the-wall that it has prompted senior executives at Paramount Studios to call crisis meetings and consider cancelling the third instalment of the Mission Impossible series, due to shoot next month.

One website, Arianna Huffington's newly launched "Huffington Post", reported this week that the film had already been canned. Yesterday's New York Times quoted an executive at Paramount's parent company, Viacom, saying the issue was under active discussion but no decision had been made yet.

The negative buzz surrounding Cruise began earlier this year on the set of his blockbuster, Steven Spielberg's retelling of War of the Worlds, when he insisted on having a Scientology tent on the set. Ordinarily, studios impose a strict ban on religious proselytising during filming, and Cruise only got his way after Spielberg and others intervened.

More recently, Cruise has used press interviews to promote Narconon, a drug rehabilitation programme invented by Scientology's founder, L Ron Hubbard, which has been thoroughly trashed by mainstream drug-addiction experts.
In his Oprah appearance last week, he pranced around the set like a puppy dog, fell to his knees and professed ardent love for Ms Holmes, with whom he has been linked for all of one month. He also rubbished Brooke Shields for taking antidepressants - a big no-no in the Scientology universe - to overcome post-partum depression and intimated that the real problem was the emptiness of her existence.

In all the brouhaha, it has not gone unnoticed that the poster for War of The Worlds bears a distinct resemblance to an L Ron Hubbard book cover, with a fantasy-type image of a clawed Martian hand grabbing Earth in its palm. It is no secret that Cruise, along with a clutch of other Hollywood stars, is a committed follower of Scientology. According to members of the church, he has reached the sixth of eight Operating Thetan levels - he is trusted enough to know almost all of the "secret truth of the universe".
The biggest change may not be religious but star management. Earlier this year he fired his long-standing publicist, Pat Kingsley, and his new team is led by his sister Lee Anne De Vette. After his Oprah appearance, his publicistswere reported to be bombarding him and his sister with calls begging them to "tone it down". His team has denied his relationship with Ms Holmes,who became a star as a teenager in the television show, Dawson's Creek, and is set to appear in cinemas this summer in Batman Begins, was anything other than genuine.

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Tom Cruise knows ALMOST all of the secrets of the universe.

Draft Dodger · 06-09-2005, 09:02 AM

not only do I think he is straight, but I like him as an actor.

top THAT

Ksyrup · 06-09-2005, 09:03 AM

According to members of the church, he has reached the sixth of eight Operating Thetan levels - he is trusted enough to know almost all of the "secret truth of the universe".

I see your cocky and funny, and raise you the "secret truth of the universe."

JPhillips · 06-09-2005, 09:22 AM

Keep it together. Keep it together. Keep it together.

rkmsuf · 06-09-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Keep it together. Keep it together. Keep it together.

Gotcha Suckers!

DeToxRox · 06-09-2005, 11:23 AM

I hope one of those couches tip over.

Kodos · 06-09-2005, 12:21 PM

Boy. First Mel Gibson goes nuts, and now Tom Cruise. Lookout, Tom Hanks! You're next on the list of big stars to go crazy.

DeToxRox · 06-09-2005, 12:22 PM

Who is crazier?

Cruise or Gibson?

rkmsuf · 06-09-2005, 12:22 PM

Cruise

DeToxRox · 06-09-2005, 12:23 PM

I'd have to go Cruise too.

Though Mel gets some help from his dad.

Pyser · 06-09-2005, 12:24 PM

mels been crazier over a longer period of time. cruise is just now being exposed for how truly crazy he is.

QuikSand · 06-09-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by article

According to members of the church, he has reached the sixth of eight Operating Thetan levels - he is trusted enough to know almost all of the "secret truth of the universe".

Actually, that's pretty impressive. In terms of pure dedication.

weinstein7 · 06-09-2005, 12:34 PM

Only 8 levels? That's kinda weak. Don't the masons have like 50 levels?

Kodos · 06-09-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

mels been crazier over a longer period of time. cruise is just now being exposed for how truly crazy he is.

At least Cruise didn't take it upon himself to weigh in on the Terri Schiavo case.

hxxp://journals.aol.com/justice1949/JUSTICEFORTERRISCHIAVO/entries/629

Bobby Schindler told participants that actor Mel Gibson, producer of "The Passon of The Christ," telephoned his father, Bob, March 11 and said he supported the family's efforts to save their daughter. Gibson also faxed a statement which Bobby read:

"I fully support the effort of Mr. & Mrs. Schlindler to save their daughter, Terri Schiavo, from a cruel starvation. Terri's husband should sign the care of his wife over to her parents so she can be properly cared for."

I'm sorry, Mel, but why should I care what you or any actor thinks about this issue? Shouldn't you be making another Lethal Weapon sequel?

QuikSand · 06-09-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

mels been crazier over a longer period of time. cruise is just now being exposed for how truly crazy he is.

Mel also has the advantage of being under the umbrella of a very widely-held faith, specifics aside. Much of the crazy stuff he believes in happens to be briadly within the faith of a billion people or so.

JPhillips · 06-09-2005, 12:40 PM

Quicksand: Nah. You can find most of it on the intrenet with a google search.

Secrets of Scientology

You can also find some great pictures of Cruise there.

Desnudo · 06-09-2005, 12:41 PM

I highly recommend getting a copy of the Scientology recruitment video. It will bring your ability to laugh at Tom Cruise to a whole new level. You all are only level one right now.

kingfc22 · 06-09-2005, 02:09 PM

Damn, what happened to Maverick? He's a nut-jub.

rkmsuf · 06-09-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Damn, what happened to Maverick? He's a nut-jub.

After that volleyball scene he was never the same.

Schmidty · 06-09-2005, 02:31 PM

How is Mel Gibson crazy?

heybrad · 06-09-2005, 02:41 PM

You're Dangerous!

duckman · 06-09-2005, 02:57 PM

Hey Brad.

weinstein7 · 06-09-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

How is Mel Gibson crazy?

Oh dear. No good can from this.

sovereignstar · 06-09-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by weinstein7

Oh dear. No good can from this.

Oppressor.

Havok · 06-09-2005, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

How is Mel Gibson crazy?

thats what i'd like to know

JPhillips · 06-09-2005, 04:48 PM

Mel Gibson says of Rich, 'I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick. ... I want to kill his dog.'

Gibson follows the teachings of the Society of Pius X, whose leader is the excommunicated French archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, and has put considerable funds into churches in California, as well as building his own private chapel in Malibu.

Crazy may be extreme, but he's certainly a bit eccentric.

judicial clerk · 06-09-2005, 04:56 PM

Who is Rich and what did he do to Mel Gibson?

Tom Cruise may have been in more entertaining movies than any other actor. I am not saying that tthere wouldn't be a lot of cheese on the list, but they were entertaining.

Schmidty · 06-09-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Mel Gibson says of Rich, 'I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick. ... I want to kill his dog.'

Gibson follows the teachings of the Society of Pius X, whose leader is the excommunicated French archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, and has put considerable funds into churches in California, as well as building his own private chapel in Malibu.

Crazy may be extreme, but he's certainly a bit eccentric.

Show me an actual quote or a substantiated link, and I might be more believing.

korme · 06-09-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

You're Dangerous!

That's right, Ice...man. I am dangerous.

I like Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson. I ain't crazzyyszy.

Kodos · 06-09-2005, 07:28 PM

If they both kept to acting and didn't feel the need to spout their views for the world, I would like them better. They used to be two of my favorite actors. Mel's constant broadcasting of his religious views has turned me off, and Scientology is for nuts.

Please, Tom Hanks. Stay a good guy. Please!

JPhillips · 06-09-2005, 08:09 PM

Schimdty: You can do your own research. I don't have any desire to fight over Mel Gibson. I find him odd, but you may not and thats fine. But I'm not about to spend my evening digging up links and quotes to satisfy you. The Rich quote is about Frank Rich and is well documented and the info about his religious beliefs is again well documented.

WSUCougar · 06-09-2005, 08:13 PM

Joel, get off the babysitter.

Schmidty · 06-09-2005, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Schimdty: You can do your own research. I don't have any desire to fight over Mel Gibson. I find him odd, but you may not and thats fine. But I'm not about to spend my evening digging up links and quotes to satisfy you. The Rich quote is about Frank Rich and is well documented and the info about his religious beliefs is again well documented.

I'm not Catholic. I just like to see people that persecute people of faith back it up.

I am not against non-Christians by any means. In fact, I've been going through a BIG life change regarding Therevada Buddhism over the past year. I'm still a Christian in my heart, but I see other views clearly as well.

If you want to make statements and not back them up, that's your decision. I really was ready to listen. Jusdging by you apathy, it wasn't worth my attention.

JPhillips · 06-09-2005, 09:47 PM

I'm hardly persecuting Mel Gibson. What have I done that's effected him in any way? And all I said was that he was eccentric. Again, you can look up info on Gibson. Its all on the net and probably goes into much greater detail. There isn't anything to backup. Gibson said that about Frank Rich and his relationship with the defrocked priest is public knowledge as is his private church.

Again, I don't really care about Mel. He's just a bit odd to me.

Take shots at me all you want, but if I remember correctly Google works for people other than me.

Schmidty · 06-09-2005, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Take shots at me all you want, but if I remember correctly Google works for people other than me.

Show me an actual shot I made against you. You presented "evidence". I asked you to back you to back it up (specifically the quote). All I've gotten in response is defensive indignation.

No problem. I just wanted to know if you had a point.

JPhillips · 06-10-2005, 06:52 AM

Cruise winning the Freedom Medal of Honor. Or as the Defamer puts it, a merit badge in brainwashery.

06-08-2005, 11:03 PM	#2
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I know...Leno really sucks, doesn't he? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-08-2005, 11:07 PM	#4
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Going from the Daily Show to this is just painful... __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

06-08-2005, 11:11 PM	#7
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I've got to be up in 5 hours, so let a man have his fun when he can. I knew what you meant - well sorta. I don't watch that crap, but I can only imagine what a giddy school girl Tom is coming off as tonight. The backstage discussion is better, though: Tom Cruise And Katie Holmes Take The Next, Carefully-Orchestrated Step? “Look, we both know that no one’s buying into our relationship. Oprah was a fucking disaster. Would it have been so hard for you to come on stage without me putting you in a half-nelson and marching you on stage like you were about to face a firing squad? Well, now we’re both fucked. I’m invoking the emergency clause, and as you’re well aware, you’re contractually obligated to go along with me as we step it up another notch. Yes, moving in together. Yes, engagement. And yes, Scientology. All of it. And I’ll set you up with some bigger people at CAA, but first you’ve got to show a little enthusiasm, OK? I don’t like all this making out stuff any more than you do, but you’ve gotta lose the condom on your tongue. Sooner or later, some paparazzi’s gonna catch that on film, it’s gonna wind up on the internet, and then we’re gonna need to have that little scuba-diving accident we talked about. Oh, for L.Ron’s sake! I hate thinly-veiled death threats. I have to get back to the Centre and knock out some Thetans. And yes, you’re coming with me.” __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-08-2005, 11:20 PM	#8
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Didn't see him on Leno, but am I the only one here who thinks Tom Cruise is straight? (but also a complete nutjob) __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-08-2005, 11:22 PM	#9
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He's fruity, I'm just not sure how many ways that applies. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-08-2005, 11:24 PM	#10
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	I'm jealous of Tom Cruise. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

06-08-2005, 11:24 PM	#11
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Anything good happen on Leno? I think Cruise is destroying his career.

06-09-2005, 08:47 AM	#15
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	War of the otherworldly: Cruise's faith in Scientology threatens film By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles Published : 03 June 2005 Is Hollywood's biggest male star losing it? In the past few days, Tom Cruise has been hauled over the coals for allowing his devotion to Scientology to overshadow his film career, ridiculed for a seemingly loopy appearance on Oprah Winfrey's daytime chat show and accused of conducting a sham romance with the younger actress Katie Holmes strictly for publicity purposes. Ordinarily, such chatter would be no more than background gossip in a town that thrives on gossip, little or none of it substantiated. But Cruise's recent behaviour has been so spectacularly off-the-wall that it has prompted senior executives at Paramount Studios to call crisis meetings and consider cancelling the third instalment of the Mission Impossible series, due to shoot next month. One website, Arianna Huffington's newly launched "Huffington Post", reported this week that the film had already been canned. Yesterday's New York Times quoted an executive at Paramount's parent company, Viacom, saying the issue was under active discussion but no decision had been made yet. The negative buzz surrounding Cruise began earlier this year on the set of his blockbuster, Steven Spielberg's retelling of War of the Worlds, when he insisted on having a Scientology tent on the set. Ordinarily, studios impose a strict ban on religious proselytising during filming, and Cruise only got his way after Spielberg and others intervened. More recently, Cruise has used press interviews to promote Narconon, a drug rehabilitation programme invented by Scientology's founder, L Ron Hubbard, which has been thoroughly trashed by mainstream drug-addiction experts. In his Oprah appearance last week, he pranced around the set like a puppy dog, fell to his knees and professed ardent love for Ms Holmes, with whom he has been linked for all of one month. He also rubbished Brooke Shields for taking antidepressants - a big no-no in the Scientology universe - to overcome post-partum depression and intimated that the real problem was the emptiness of her existence. In all the brouhaha, it has not gone unnoticed that the poster for War of The Worlds bears a distinct resemblance to an L Ron Hubbard book cover, with a fantasy-type image of a clawed Martian hand grabbing Earth in its palm. It is no secret that Cruise, along with a clutch of other Hollywood stars, is a committed follower of Scientology. According to members of the church, he has reached the sixth of eight Operating Thetan levels - he is trusted enough to know almost all of the "secret truth of the universe". The biggest change may not be religious but star management. Earlier this year he fired his long-standing publicist, Pat Kingsley, and his new team is led by his sister Lee Anne De Vette. After his Oprah appearance, his publicistswere reported to be bombarding him and his sister with calls begging them to "tone it down". His team has denied his relationship with Ms Holmes,who became a star as a teenager in the television show, Dawson's Creek, and is set to appear in cinemas this summer in Batman Begins, was anything other than genuine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Cruise knows ALMOST all of the secrets of the universe. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

06-09-2005, 09:02 AM	#16
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	not only do I think he is straight, but I like him as an actor. top THAT __________________ Mile High Hockey

06-09-2005, 09:03 AM	#17
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	According to members of the church, he has reached the sixth of eight Operating Thetan levels - he is trusted enough to know almost all of the "secret truth of the universe". I see your cocky and funny, and raise you the "secret truth of the universe." __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-09-2005, 09:22 AM	#18
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Keep it together. Keep it together. Keep it together.

06-09-2005, 11:23 AM	#20
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I hope one of those couches tip over.

06-09-2005, 12:21 PM	#21
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Boy. First Mel Gibson goes nuts, and now Tom Cruise. Lookout, Tom Hanks! You're next on the list of big stars to go crazy.

06-09-2005, 12:22 PM	#22
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Who is crazier? Cruise or Gibson?

06-09-2005, 12:22 PM	#23
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Cruise __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

06-09-2005, 12:23 PM	#24
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I'd have to go Cruise too. Though Mel gets some help from his dad.

06-09-2005, 12:24 PM	#25
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	mels been crazier over a longer period of time. cruise is just now being exposed for how truly crazy he is.

06-09-2005, 12:34 PM	#27
weinstein7 High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, NY	Only 8 levels? That's kinda weak. Don't the masons have like 50 levels?

06-09-2005, 12:40 PM	#30
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Quicksand: Nah. You can find most of it on the intrenet with a google search. Secrets of Scientology You can also find some great pictures of Cruise there.

06-09-2005, 12:41 PM	#31
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I highly recommend getting a copy of the Scientology recruitment video. It will bring your ability to laugh at Tom Cruise to a whole new level. You all are only level one right now.

06-09-2005, 02:09 PM	#32
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Damn, what happened to Maverick? He's a nut-jub. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-09-2005, 02:31 PM	#34
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	How is Mel Gibson crazy? __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

06-09-2005, 02:41 PM	#35
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	You're Dangerous!

06-09-2005, 04:48 PM	#40
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Mel Gibson says of Rich, 'I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick. ... I want to kill his dog.' Gibson follows the teachings of the Society of Pius X, whose leader is the excommunicated French archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, and has put considerable funds into churches in California, as well as building his own private chapel in Malibu. Crazy may be extreme, but he's certainly a bit eccentric.

06-09-2005, 04:56 PM	#41
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	Who is Rich and what did he do to Mel Gibson? Tom Cruise may have been in more entertaining movies than any other actor. I am not saying that tthere wouldn't be a lot of cheese on the list, but they were entertaining.

06-09-2005, 07:28 PM	#44
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	If they both kept to acting and didn't feel the need to spout their views for the world, I would like them better. They used to be two of my favorite actors. Mel's constant broadcasting of his religious views has turned me off, and Scientology is for nuts. Please, Tom Hanks. Stay a good guy. Please!

06-09-2005, 08:09 PM	#45
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Schimdty: You can do your own research. I don't have any desire to fight over Mel Gibson. I find him odd, but you may not and thats fine. But I'm not about to spend my evening digging up links and quotes to satisfy you. The Rich quote is about Frank Rich and is well documented and the info about his religious beliefs is again well documented.

06-09-2005, 08:13 PM	#46
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Joel, get off the babysitter. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

06-09-2005, 09:47 PM	#48
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I'm hardly persecuting Mel Gibson. What have I done that's effected him in any way? And all I said was that he was eccentric. Again, you can look up info on Gibson. Its all on the net and probably goes into much greater detail. There isn't anything to backup. Gibson said that about Frank Rich and his relationship with the defrocked priest is public knowledge as is his private church. Again, I don't really care about Mel. He's just a bit odd to me. Take shots at me all you want, but if I remember correctly Google works for people other than me.

06-10-2005, 06:52 AM	#50
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Cruise winning the Freedom Medal of Honor. Or as the Defamer puts it, a merit badge in brainwashery.

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