2009 FOFC Hardcore League - Page 2

CleBrownsfan · 02-19-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Expansion would be fine if we can find the active owners.

It's hard enough to keep 12 active owners... I say stick with what we have - IMO

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 02-19-2009, 11:52 AM

In my humble opinion I think we should keep it at 12 also.

It is hard to keep owners active and plus this keeps the waiver wire more interesting.

Just my two cents

sooner333 · 02-19-2009, 12:17 PM

I'm fine either way...maybe 14 would be a good compromise.

sterlingice · 02-19-2009, 12:26 PM

If we want to make changes, I'm all for it, but a majority of owners have to agree (in the past it was 8, so we'll keep with that).

I'm voting no, personally, but if others are interested, put in votes.

My reasoning is as follows. Right now, we have 10 hitters and 9 pitchers starting as well as 5 more on the bench, so realistically, that's 12/12 with 12 teams for 288 players. That's 9.6 players per MLB team- basically 3.5 starting pitchers, 1 closer, and 5 batters from every team. I don't really want to be playing with the 4th SP of most teams and their 7-9 hitters.

Same problem with expanding the rosters in my mind- just not enough talent out there. We have no useful stats to keep track of middle relievers and I think adding holds is just silly- been down that road before. How much impact does adding 70 IPs worth of K's, ERA, etc when your SPs should be three times that much? Or how does adding 4th OFs or crappy middle IFs do anything to offset those guys at the top or even middle of the draft?

If the waiver pool is empty, it's harder to keep people interested and that just leads to a more dead league. Last year was our worst league for inactives and that was only 4. Hell, the first couple of years, I think we had 1 total between those two years. That alone keeps thing competitive.

Current vote tally (expand teams to 16 from 12):
Yay: IIII
Nay: III
Either: I (basically counts as a yay)

I guess a simple answer would be to let Sublime2 and DeToxRox back in to make 14. That depends on if the vote is there, tho. (We'd have to redo the draft order in that case, too.)

SI

Ramzavail · 02-19-2009, 12:33 PM

You make some good point, I'll change mine to a nay. More owners = more possible dead owners

samifan24 · 02-19-2009, 01:06 PM

I will also change my vote to nay. You're very convincing, SI.

PackerFanatic · 02-19-2009, 01:25 PM

I vote nay.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-19-2009, 01:31 PM

I will change my vote to yes for 14 teams but no for 16.

sterlingice · 02-19-2009, 01:51 PM

I wasn't trying to sway people one way or another- I was just saying why I went with what I did. If someone has a good argument in favor, I'd love to see it posted- something about how we aren't scraping the bottom of the barrel, as is, etc.

SI

Travis · 02-19-2009, 02:43 PM

I'm good with how it is currently. Also add in that more teams = longer draft which hopefully won't be an issue, but who knows how things'll go.

samifan24 · 02-19-2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

My reasoning is as follows. Right now, we have 10 hitters and 9 pitchers starting as well as 5 more on the bench, so realistically, that's 12/12 with 12 teams for 288 players.

This post reads that we have 24 man rosters but I counted 26 roster spots. Here are the roster spots we have to fill:

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, LF, CF, RF, OF, UT (12)
SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P (9)
BN, BN, BN, BN, BN (5)

12 Hitters + 9 Pitchers + 5 Bench Spots = 26 Roster Spots

So, do we have 24 or 26 man rosters?

sterlingice · 02-19-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24

This post reads that we have 24 man rosters but I counted 26 roster spots. Here are the roster spots we have to fill:

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, LF, CF, RF, OF, UT (12)
SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P (9)
BN, BN, BN, BN, BN (5)

12 Hitters + 9 Pitchers + 5 Bench Spots = 26 Roster Spots
So, do we have 24 or 26 man rosters?

Whoops- 26- my bad. I can't count. So, more realistically, 12 pitchers and 14 hitters

SI

MizzouRah · 02-19-2009, 04:19 PM

I see SI's point, 12 seems perfect to me.. but if we do expand I would think 14 is the max.

samifan24 · 02-19-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Whoops- 26- my bad. I can't count. So, more realistically, 12 pitchers and 14 hitters

SI

You had me really nervous there for a second! I think a 26 round draft is plenty long to begin with and we're already digging through rosters with 12 teams. I have nothing against the other guys that want to play but I think adding more teams will dilute the rosters.

Maybe we can compromise and keep two alternate managers for the first month or so in case someone has to drop out or abandons their team.

sterlingice · 02-19-2009, 04:26 PM

Seriously, I wasn't trying to browbeat everyone into agreeing. I just wanted to lay out my line of thinking and I'm sure others have better arguments or ideas. It feels like I just yelled everyone into agreeing and that wasn't my intention at all.

SI

MizzouRah · 02-19-2009, 06:19 PM

I didn't take your post like that at all SI.

PackerFanatic · 02-19-2009, 06:52 PM

I also didn't take it like that. 26 is a pretty big roster, and it gets to be a helluva lot less fun when you have a lot of teams (if it were up to me, I'd only like 10 teams - but I am just happy you guys let me join, haha)

Toddzilla · 02-19-2009, 09:21 PM

I'll go along to get along - and I can understand the "active owners" reasoning - but the "not enough talent" argument is complete and utter horseshit. The fewer teams there are, the more success depends on luck rather than skill. When the talent pool is deep, there's not much variance at the bottom of your roster. With more teams, success depends on the skill of the owner to select the players that round out their team. Championships aren't decided in the draft's first 10 rounds, they're won or lost in the last 10 rounds. When everyone gets an all-star team, it's basically luck.

samifan24 · 02-19-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

I'll go along to get along - and I can understand the "active owners" reasoning - but the "not enough talent" argument is complete and utter horseshit. The fewer teams there are, the more success depends on luck rather than skill. When the talent pool is deep, there's not much variance at the bottom of your roster. With more teams, success depends on the skill of the owner to select the players that round out their team. Championships aren't decided in the draft's first 10 rounds, they're won or lost in the last 10 rounds. When everyone gets an all-star team, it's basically luck.

Yeah, I agree with you to a point. The league champion wins because of his decisions late in the draft, on the FA wire and through trades. Adding an additional four teams changes the landscape of the league dramatically in such a way that I think it hurts the league. Anyone that's played in a shallow league knows it's no fun to have an All-Star at every position, but I think stretching the rosters too thin can have the same effect.

Your argument is why I initially wanted more owners in the league but now I think that expanding from 12 to 16 is just too much. This league is already more difficult than standard 12 team leagues for two reasons: we use more than 5x5 categories and we use specific outfielder positions rather than generic ones and that's the reason why I changed my mind.

If the majority votes to add the extra teams, I'd welcome it. I want this to be a fun league and I want everyone to be active. I just hesitate to expand the league so soon on the thinking that "more is better" because that isn't always the case.

samifan24 · 02-20-2009, 10:57 AM

Now that we've determined the draft order, are we going to begin drafting this weekend with no time limit as SI mentioned or are we just going to wait for Monday?

sterlingice · 02-20-2009, 03:14 PM

I think the nay's have it for league expansion, so, PackerFanatic, you're on the clock. Keep in mind, until Monday morning, this clock is like how the Lions are on the clock right now for the NFL draft

SI

cubboyroy1826 · 02-20-2009, 03:45 PM

Sweet!!

cubboyroy1826 · 02-21-2009, 12:31 PM

Where is Packerfanatic, figures a Packer fan would hold us up.

sterlingice · 02-21-2009, 12:36 PM

Nah, it's not like his name is VikingsFanatic. They'd be the ones delaying the draft

Also, think of this as pre-draft where anything we get is gravy. Remember, starting Monday, the time limits take effect

SI

cubboyroy1826 · 02-21-2009, 12:48 PM

That's cool but being a Bears fan i gotta bust his chops.

samifan24 · 02-22-2009, 11:38 AM

No playoffs in this league? I just read that on the settings page. Has this always been the case?

sterlingice · 02-22-2009, 11:49 AM

What? No playoffs? It must have borked the settings when importing them from last season. It should be a 6 team playoff with 2 byes.

SI

sterlingice · 02-22-2009, 11:53 AM

Ok, made the change- 6 playoff teams so the top two get byes. There's also a consolation bracket. Also, I moved the trade deadline back so it's a little earlier- that way there aren't huge trades 2 weeks before the playoffs. They should be made a little sooner than that.

SI

samifan24 · 02-22-2009, 11:58 AM

Come on PackerFanatic, let's get this thing going!

sterlingice · 02-22-2009, 12:02 PM

Maybe he's waiting to see where Manny signs

SI

PackerFanatic · 02-23-2009, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Nah, it's not like his name is VikingsFanatic. They'd be the ones delaying the draft

Also, think of this as pre-draft where anything we get is gravy. Remember, starting Monday, the time limits take effect

SI

Ouch, haha.

Sorry guys - I totally missed the fact we were starting this weekend.

Assuming then that we are just drafting here...with the 1st pick, I will take SS Hanley Ramirez

samifan24 · 02-23-2009, 08:00 AM

And we're off! Good luck everybody!

CleBrownsfan · 02-23-2009, 08:11 AM

can somebody give me a link to the draft room? For some reason I can not find the draft room - I'm only able to get last years draft results.

thanks

samifan24 · 02-23-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

can somebody give me a link to the draft room? For some reason I can not find the draft room - I'm only able to get last years draft results.

thanks

You can't find it because there isn't a draft room yet. We're holding the draft in this thread and SI will post the results in the 4th post in this thread and also on the league website on Yahoo.

sterlingice · 02-23-2009, 08:24 AM

Oh, hey, so that it's easy to read, could everyone try to post like this:

1.1 Hanley Ramirez

Also, if there needs to be any clarification- do something like "Chris Young, SP" or "Chris Young, SD" (as opposed to Chris Young, OF/AZ)

SI

Ramzavail · 02-23-2009, 08:25 AM

good luck guys.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 02-23-2009, 09:04 AM

With the second pick I take 1.2 Albert Pujols

The man is not even 30 yet and has yet to hit under 300 or hit under 30 hrs. As long as he stays healthy I feel very good about this pick.

sterlingice · 02-23-2009, 09:05 AM

Once I get a chance this morning, I'll make a post with a reminder about the rules with the time limits, etc

SI

cubboyroy1826 · 02-23-2009, 09:23 AM

With the 3rd pick the Insomniacs choose SS Jose Reyes NYM

1.3 SS Jose Reyes - NYM

sterlingice · 02-23-2009, 10:23 AM

Ok, I've updated post 4 and the draft board in Yahoo.

If you'll look at the "Players" page, and select "All Available Players" (the default), you'll see the picked players are no longer on the list. So you can search through who is left that way. Also, if you go to "Draft Central -> Draft Results", you can see the draft results up to where I've entered them. Also, that's where I'm cutting and pasting to get the results in post 4 (hence why some names are cut off).

I try to do this a couple of times a day- but there are time constraints and all.

Speaking of which, now's the time to go over the simple version of the draft time rules, which are posted here:
Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - 2009 FOFC Hardcore League

1) There's a 6 hour time limit for picks between 8am CT and 10pm CT on Weekdays. Use the board clock to determine how long the 6 hours are.

2) If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 9am) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until 10am).

3) On weekends, we'll just go with a standard 6 hours with no morning/evening provision. For instance, if someone picks at 9:05pm Saturday, you have until 1:05pm Sunday the next day (6 hours of "draft time"). However, if someone picks at 9:05pm Sunday, you have until 10am Monday since the clock starts again during the week.

4) If you don't make a pick in this time, then you will get the highest rated player in Yahoo on your team, regardless of position (even if you have 14 pitchers, here's another), retired status (for instance, Bonds last year), injuries (Shaun Marcum, anyone?), or anything else. You miss your pick, you get Yahoo's pick (o-rank).

5) If you think you might miss your pick, try working with someone to get a list: I recommend someone who is on the opposite end of the draft than you are. I'll be watching the draft pretty regularly so I can help, but, again, I'd rather not do it if you're one of the couple of people after me so there's no chance of a sense of conflict of interest.

There are some other rules about the draft going too long, but I think we'll be ok this year with the World Baseball Classic pushing Opening Day out until April 5th- no series in Japan or anything like that.

Any questions? Clear them up now, before it's too late.

SI

MizzouRah · 02-23-2009, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding

With the second pick I take 1.2 Albert Pujols

The man is not even 30 yet and has yet to hit under 300 or hit under 30 hrs. As long as he stays healthy I feel very good about this pick.

sterlingice · 02-23-2009, 11:31 AM

I knew this would not play well with the Troy contingent

SI

PackerFanatic · 02-23-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding

With the second pick I take 1.2 Albert Pujols

The man is not even 30 yet and has yet to hit under 300 or hit under 30 hrs. As long as he stays healthy I feel very good about this pick.

It was close between Hanley and Pujols. I think it is probably a horse a piece.

samifan24 · 02-23-2009, 12:54 PM

I wish I didn't have to take him but the goal is winning, not drafting the all "favorite guys" team. I'm surprised he wasn't taken in the top three.

1.4 Alex Rodriguez 3B

cubboyroy1826 · 02-23-2009, 01:12 PM

I thought about Arod but my worry is the affect of all the steroid talk will have on him. He is a great player but i wonder about his head a bit. Who knows i will probably be wrong but just in case.

CleBrownsfan · 02-23-2009, 01:20 PM

I want to be a homer and pick Sizemore here but OF is plenty.

1.5 David Wright 3B, NYM

samifan24 · 02-23-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

I want to be a homer and pick Sizemore here but OF is plenty.

1.5 David Wright 3B, NYM

That makes two Tribe fans in the same league. Awesome! I'd have taken Grady if I had a lower pick, say around seven or eight.

sterlingice · 02-23-2009, 01:47 PM

1.6 Miguel Cabrera, 1B/3B Det

SI

sterlingice · 02-23-2009, 01:51 PM

Yahoo and thread have been updated with draft results.

Ramzavail
Then MizzouRah
Then Travis
(next 3 up)

SI

PackerFanatic · 02-23-2009, 02:23 PM

I took A-Rod #1 last year and hated myself a little for it. Tried to see if a different direction helped this year - I hope it does!

02-19-2009, 12:26 PM	#54
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	If we want to make changes, I'm all for it, but a majority of owners have to agree (in the past it was 8, so we'll keep with that). I'm voting no, personally, but if others are interested, put in votes. My reasoning is as follows. Right now, we have 10 hitters and 9 pitchers starting as well as 5 more on the bench, so realistically, that's 12/12 with 12 teams for 288 players. That's 9.6 players per MLB team- basically 3.5 starting pitchers, 1 closer, and 5 batters from every team. I don't really want to be playing with the 4th SP of most teams and their 7-9 hitters. Same problem with expanding the rosters in my mind- just not enough talent out there. We have no useful stats to keep track of middle relievers and I think adding holds is just silly- been down that road before. How much impact does adding 70 IPs worth of K's, ERA, etc when your SPs should be three times that much? Or how does adding 4th OFs or crappy middle IFs do anything to offset those guys at the top or even middle of the draft? If the waiver pool is empty, it's harder to keep people interested and that just leads to a more dead league. Last year was our worst league for inactives and that was only 4. Hell, the first couple of years, I think we had 1 total between those two years. That alone keeps thing competitive. Current vote tally (expand teams to 16 from 12): Yay: IIII Nay: III Either: I (basically counts as a yay) I guess a simple answer would be to let Sublime2 and DeToxRox back in to make 14. That depends on if the vote is there, tho. (We'd have to redo the draft order in that case, too.) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-19-2009 at 12:29 PM.

02-19-2009, 01:06 PM	#56
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I will also change my vote to nay. You're very convincing, SI. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-19-2009, 01:25 PM	#57
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I vote nay. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

02-19-2009, 01:51 PM	#59
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I wasn't trying to sway people one way or another- I was just saying why I went with what I did. If someone has a good argument in favor, I'd love to see it posted- something about how we aren't scraping the bottom of the barrel, as is, etc. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-19-2009, 02:43 PM	#60
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	I'm good with how it is currently. Also add in that more teams = longer draft which hopefully won't be an issue, but who knows how things'll go. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

02-19-2009, 11:52 AM	#52
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	In my humble opinion I think we should keep it at 12 also. It is hard to keep owners active and plus this keeps the waiver wire more interesting. Just my two cents

02-19-2009, 12:17 PM	#53
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	I'm fine either way...maybe 14 would be a good compromise.

02-19-2009, 12:33 PM	#55
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	You make some good point, I'll change mine to a nay. More owners = more possible dead owners

02-19-2009, 01:31 PM	#58
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	I will change my vote to yes for 14 teams but no for 16.

02-19-2009, 04:19 PM	#63
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I see SI's point, 12 seems perfect to me.. but if we do expand I would think 14 is the max.

02-19-2009, 04:26 PM	#65
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Seriously, I wasn't trying to browbeat everyone into agreeing. I just wanted to lay out my line of thinking and I'm sure others have better arguments or ideas. It feels like I just yelled everyone into agreeing and that wasn't my intention at all. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-19-2009, 06:19 PM	#66
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I didn't take your post like that at all SI.

02-19-2009, 06:52 PM	#67
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I also didn't take it like that. 26 is a pretty big roster, and it gets to be a helluva lot less fun when you have a lot of teams (if it were up to me, I'd only like 10 teams - but I am just happy you guys let me join, haha) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

02-19-2009, 09:21 PM	#68
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	I'll go along to get along - and I can understand the "active owners" reasoning - but the "not enough talent" argument is complete and utter horseshit. The fewer teams there are, the more success depends on luck rather than skill. When the talent pool is deep, there's not much variance at the bottom of your roster. With more teams, success depends on the skill of the owner to select the players that round out their team. Championships aren't decided in the draft's first 10 rounds, they're won or lost in the last 10 rounds. When everyone gets an all-star team, it's basically luck.

02-20-2009, 10:57 AM	#70
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Now that we've determined the draft order, are we going to begin drafting this weekend with no time limit as SI mentioned or are we just going to wait for Monday? __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-20-2009, 03:14 PM	#71
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I think the nay's have it for league expansion, so, PackerFanatic, you're on the clock. Keep in mind, until Monday morning, this clock is like how the Lions are on the clock right now for the NFL draft SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-20-2009, 03:45 PM	#72
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Sweet!!

02-21-2009, 12:31 PM	#73
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Where is Packerfanatic, figures a Packer fan would hold us up.

02-21-2009, 12:36 PM	#74
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Nah, it's not like his name is VikingsFanatic. They'd be the ones delaying the draft Also, think of this as pre-draft where anything we get is gravy. Remember, starting Monday, the time limits take effect SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-21-2009, 12:48 PM	#75
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	That's cool but being a Bears fan i gotta bust his chops.

02-22-2009, 11:38 AM	#76
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	No playoffs in this league? I just read that on the settings page. Has this always been the case? __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-22-2009, 11:49 AM	#77
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	What? No playoffs? It must have borked the settings when importing them from last season. It should be a 6 team playoff with 2 byes. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-22-2009, 11:53 AM	#78
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Ok, made the change- 6 playoff teams so the top two get byes. There's also a consolation bracket. Also, I moved the trade deadline back so it's a little earlier- that way there aren't huge trades 2 weeks before the playoffs. They should be made a little sooner than that. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-22-2009, 11:58 AM	#79
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Come on PackerFanatic, let's get this thing going! __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-22-2009, 12:02 PM	#80
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Maybe he's waiting to see where Manny signs SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-23-2009, 08:00 AM	#82
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	And we're off! Good luck everybody! __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-23-2009, 08:11 AM	#83
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	can somebody give me a link to the draft room? For some reason I can not find the draft room - I'm only able to get last years draft results. thanks __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

02-23-2009, 08:24 AM	#85
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Oh, hey, so that it's easy to read, could everyone try to post like this: 1.1 Hanley Ramirez Also, if there needs to be any clarification- do something like "Chris Young, SP" or "Chris Young, SD" (as opposed to Chris Young, OF/AZ) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-23-2009 at 08:24 AM.

02-23-2009, 08:25 AM	#86
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	good luck guys.

02-23-2009, 09:04 AM	#87
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	With the second pick I take 1.2 Albert Pujols The man is not even 30 yet and has yet to hit under 300 or hit under 30 hrs. As long as he stays healthy I feel very good about this pick.

02-23-2009, 09:05 AM	#88
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Once I get a chance this morning, I'll make a post with a reminder about the rules with the time limits, etc SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-23-2009, 09:23 AM	#89
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	With the 3rd pick the Insomniacs choose SS Jose Reyes NYM 1.3 SS Jose Reyes - NYM

02-23-2009, 10:23 AM	#90
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Ok, I've updated post 4 and the draft board in Yahoo. If you'll look at the "Players" page, and select "All Available Players" (the default), you'll see the picked players are no longer on the list. So you can search through who is left that way. Also, if you go to "Draft Central -> Draft Results", you can see the draft results up to where I've entered them. Also, that's where I'm cutting and pasting to get the results in post 4 (hence why some names are cut off). I try to do this a couple of times a day- but there are time constraints and all. Speaking of which, now's the time to go over the simple version of the draft time rules, which are posted here: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - 2009 FOFC Hardcore League 1) There's a 6 hour time limit for picks between 8am CT and 10pm CT on Weekdays. Use the board clock to determine how long the 6 hours are. 2) If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 9am) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until 10am). 3) On weekends, we'll just go with a standard 6 hours with no morning/evening provision. For instance, if someone picks at 9:05pm Saturday, you have until 1:05pm Sunday the next day (6 hours of "draft time"). However, if someone picks at 9:05pm Sunday, you have until 10am Monday since the clock starts again during the week. 4) If you don't make a pick in this time, then you will get the highest rated player in Yahoo on your team, regardless of position (even if you have 14 pitchers, here's another), retired status (for instance, Bonds last year), injuries (Shaun Marcum, anyone?), or anything else. You miss your pick, you get Yahoo's pick (o-rank). 5) If you think you might miss your pick, try working with someone to get a list: I recommend someone who is on the opposite end of the draft than you are. I'll be watching the draft pretty regularly so I can help, but, again, I'd rather not do it if you're one of the couple of people after me so there's no chance of a sense of conflict of interest. There are some other rules about the draft going too long, but I think we'll be ok this year with the World Baseball Classic pushing Opening Day out until April 5th- no series in Japan or anything like that. Any questions? Clear them up now, before it's too late. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-23-2009 at 10:24 AM.

02-23-2009, 11:31 AM	#92
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I knew this would not play well with the Troy contingent SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-23-2009, 12:54 PM	#94
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I wish I didn't have to take him but the goal is winning, not drafting the all "favorite guys" team. I'm surprised he wasn't taken in the top three. 1.4 Alex Rodriguez 3B __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton