The Official March Madness 2007 Thread - Page 9

Young Drachma · 03-17-2007, 02:19 PM

I think the Duke comparison is apt right now. Xavier is playing just like that. Scared.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2007, 02:20 PM

ah well. It was a good run by xavier. That non-technical by the refs cost them the upset though.

Young Drachma · 03-17-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Announcers are always going to sound biased against the seem you're rooting for.

The prospect of this sort of an upset isn't as exciting to me as past year's upsets have been. And I have a bracket rooting interest in seeing tOSU in the final four.

sooner333 · 03-17-2007, 02:23 PM

I think Gus Johnson is always this excited.

molson · 03-17-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

ah well. It was a good run by xavier. That non-technical by the refs cost them the upset though.

It was an interesting non-call. It would have been called a T 5 minutes earlier, no question. But it also would have been used to taint any run Xavier might go on from here.

And they should have locked it up long before that - they played scared the last 2 minutes, and the OT

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 02:25 PM

When did they change the rule to not reset the shot clock on a kicked ball?

Easy Mac · 03-17-2007, 02:25 PM

Xavier got hosed

henry296 · 03-17-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

When did they change the rule to not reset the shot clock on a kicked ball?

I think two years ago. If the shot clock is under 15 secs, they set it to 15 seconds.

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

I think two years ago. If the shot clock is under 15 secs, they set it to 15 seconds.

Interesting, I missed that change.

wade moore · 03-17-2007, 02:52 PM

MJ4H - I'll agree to leave it be.... until someone comes in bashing mid-majors again

. I agree that you can't just tally W/L in the tourney to tell the story - I just wanted to show that SuperGrover was trying to do it with completely mis-leading facts. If you try to make the point, I'm going to show where that point is flawed.

Solecismic · 03-17-2007, 03:47 PM

Speaking of mid-majors remaining in the tournament, Michigan's Tommy Amaker just got fired, and the A.D. announced he's scouting the tournament for coaches who might want to move up.

I wish I could shed a tear for Tommy the nice guy coach, but my only memories of his tenure here are NIT appearances.

kingfc22 · 03-17-2007, 03:55 PM

Can somebody please explain to me how a #6 seed is basically playing a home game?

henry296 · 03-17-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Can somebody please explain to me how a #6 seed is basically playing a home game?

High seeds are only protected against potential "road" games in the first round. It has happened many times before. I recall Pitt as a #3 playing Wisconsin in Milwaukee in the second round a couple of years ago.

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 04:21 PM

Anybody with comments on that charge call against Maryland? I'm pulling for Butler, but the charge seemed like a tough call at this point in the game.

INDalltheway · 03-17-2007, 04:24 PM

It's GOOOD

INDalltheway · 03-17-2007, 04:24 PM

wade moore · 03-17-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Anybody with comments on that charge call against Maryland? I'm pulling for Butler, but the charge seemed like a tough call at this point in the game.

I thought it was a very poor call.. Not only was he in the air when he caught it, not only was Crone under the basket, but I didn't think Crone was set either.

And I was only marginally pulling for UMD

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Gary Gorski · 03-17-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

ah well. It was a good run by xavier. That non-technical by the refs cost them the upset though.

Missing a free throw and not defending Lewis (and throwing the ball away carelessly on an inbounds pass) had something to do with that too.

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I thought it was a very poor call.. Not only was he in the air when he caught it, not only was Crone under the basket, but I didn't think Crone was set either.

And I was only marginally pulling for UMD

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Crone may not have been set, but he did have position while the other guy was flying through the lane. I guess I can see the call, but in terms of offensive/defensive/no-call, offensive probably would have been my third choice.

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

Missing a free throw and not defending Lewis (and throwing the ball away carelessly on an inbounds pass) had something to do with that too.

I would have to agree. If your reason for losing was that a referee called a foul but didn't determine it was intentional or worth a technical, you really can't claim you should have won. I'm sure it was an intentional foul, but not a whole lot different from any other end of the game foul.

Gary Gorski · 03-17-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I wish I could shed a tear for Tommy the nice guy coach, but my only memories of his tenure here are NIT appearances.

Finally...Tommy seems like a great guy and recruited good athletes but he just couldn't coach any of them. Every single team he had just about underachieved. I'm tired of seeing them in the NIT - if Purdue and Illinois could make the tournament there is no way UofM shouldn't have been able to win enough games to get in too. Maybe next year we'll win a quality game or two.

MJ4H · 03-17-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

MJ4H - I'll agree to leave it be.... until someone comes in bashing mid-majors again

. I agree that you can't just tally W/L in the tourney to tell the story - I just wanted to show that SuperGrover was trying to do it with completely mis-leading facts. If you try to make the point, I'm going to show where that point is flawed.

I agree with your comment, of course, and I agree what you were doing was fine (in responding to SG). Sorry if I got out of line, it is just something that bothers me to no end and threads are repeatedly getting hijacked. I apologize if I was a butt. Or asswhite or whatever.

INDalltheway · 03-17-2007, 05:23 PM

Sosa goes 15-15 free throws, then misses 2.. wow.. A&M answers with 2 bricks.

INDalltheway · 03-17-2007, 05:23 PM

Dola, every game has come down to the end today. Can't ask for much more.

-Mojo Jojo- · 03-17-2007, 05:24 PM

I think this is the most amazing day of basketball I've ever watched...

INDalltheway · 03-17-2007, 05:25 PM

Horrible shot.. Get to the basket.

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 05:26 PM

In general I'd have to say that todays games have been much better than most of the first round games. Many of them going down to the wire.

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by INDalltheway

Horrible shot.. Get to the basket.

That was a terrible shot. No way they couldn't have found something better.

JeeberD · 03-17-2007, 05:27 PM

Fucking' Aggies.

Logan · 03-17-2007, 05:28 PM

More proof of why Pitino is a shit coach.

adubroff · 03-17-2007, 05:35 PM

Despite the miss at the end, you have to really be impressed by Sosa. He had a monster game and really kept Louisville in it. I thought we'd see a monster game from a guard there but I thought that guard would be Law (who played well also). I have A&M winning it all in every pool I did, so I was nervous there. I don't know if they'll play a tougher game than Louisville on the road (basically). Oddly enough, next (assuming Memphis advances) they would two games in their home state(against higher seeds).

Logan · 03-17-2007, 06:21 PM

Wow, GREAT putback by Green.

molson · 03-17-2007, 06:39 PM

Do Timouts ALWAYS favor the offense over the defense, as every coach in the history of the world seems to think?

BrianD · 03-17-2007, 06:43 PM

It probably depends on the relative strengths of the coaches.

Logan · 03-17-2007, 06:48 PM

Georgetown is a great team to watch. They have the fundamentals of a mid-major.

Logan · 03-17-2007, 07:02 PM

Jesus...wasn't Pitt just up 10+?

Logan · 03-17-2007, 07:05 PM

What a chokejob.

Rizon · 03-17-2007, 07:06 PM

VCU for President.

Rizon · 03-17-2007, 07:11 PM

Wow, these kids gotta stop watching Shaq shoot free-throws.

Radii · 03-17-2007, 07:13 PM

Has there every been a day like this where every single game was competitive down to the wire? The first round was one of the more "boring" first rounds I can remember, today has been incredible and completely made up for it.

WSUCougar · 03-17-2007, 07:14 PM

miami_fan · 03-17-2007, 07:23 PM

A lot of teams are taking their foot off the gas today.

henry296 · 03-17-2007, 07:28 PM

Deep breath.

As a Pitt fan, I thought for sure they were going to blow it again. The refs did miss a travel call on Graves when he was trapped at the half court line with about 1:30 left.

Every single game so far so basically gone down to the last possession. The "worst" game was the BC/GTown game.

Logan · 03-17-2007, 07:47 PM

There's some things I will just never understand.

I have no idea when the broadcasting community made the shift from "he's on the bench getting some rest" to "he's getting a blow."

But I'm even more amazed that the announcers can say this with a serious tone.

bosshogg23 · 03-17-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Speaking of mid-majors remaining in the tournament, Michigan's Tommy Amaker just got fired, and the A.D. announced he's scouting the tournament for coaches who might want to move up.

I wish I could shed a tear for Tommy the nice guy coach, but my only memories of his tenure here are NIT appearances.

The candidates include Washington State's Tony Bennett, Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery, former Golden State Warriors coach Mike Montgomery, UNLV's Lon Kruger, West Virginia's John Beilein, Xavier's Sean Miller and Cal's Ben Braun, as well as ESPN analysts Rick Majerus and Steve Lavin. At least according to ESPN.com.

Ben Braun would make a lot of sense, he knows the state well after coaching EMU for so many years.

I would be surprised if VCU's head coach didnt attract some attention from a larger school.

miami_fan · 03-17-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

There's some things I will just never understand.

I have no idea when the broadcasting community made the shift from "he's on the bench getting some rest" to "he's getting a blow."

But I'm even more amazed that the announcers can say this with a serious tone.

Maybe they just can't relate.

adubroff · 03-17-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

The candidates include Washington State's Tony Bennett, Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery, former Golden State Warriors coach Mike Montgomery, UNLV's Lon Kruger, West Virginia's John Beilein, Xavier's Sean Miller and Cal's Ben Braun, as well as ESPN analysts Rick Majerus and Steve Lavin. At least according to ESPN.com.

Ben Braun would make a lot of sense, he knows the state well after coaching EMU for so many years.

I would be surprised if VCU's head coach didnt attract some attention from a larger school.

VCU's coach I believe is in his first year. Not sure if that will keep him in his job but I think sometimes these guys like to keep from jumping every year. Also, while I think he's an excellent coach from what I've seen, you really don't have a great idea how he recruits.

They could do a lot worse than most of that list, I think Beilein is my favorite of the group because I love watching his teams play.

henry296 · 03-17-2007, 08:26 PM

Interesting stats on today's first 6 games:

Total margin of victory: 29
Total margin at the end of regulation: 13.

Rizon · 03-17-2007, 09:07 PM

Thank god CBS changed from the UCLA/Indiana game to the UNC game. That was some seriously bad basketball.

hoosiergoody · 03-17-2007, 09:09 PM

so far IU and UCLA are a combined 15 for 61 shooting- wow. can't buy a basket...

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Can somebody please explain to me how a #6 seed is basically playing a home game? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Fucking' Aggies. __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

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03-17-2007, 02:20 PM	#402
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	ah well. It was a good run by xavier. That non-technical by the refs cost them the upset though.

03-17-2007, 02:23 PM	#404
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	I think Gus Johnson is always this excited.

03-17-2007, 02:25 PM	#406
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	When did they change the rule to not reset the shot clock on a kicked ball?

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Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Xavier got hosed

03-17-2007, 03:47 PM	#411
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Speaking of mid-majors remaining in the tournament, Michigan's Tommy Amaker just got fired, and the A.D. announced he's scouting the tournament for coaches who might want to move up. I wish I could shed a tear for Tommy the nice guy coach, but my only memories of his tenure here are NIT appearances.

03-17-2007, 04:21 PM	#414
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Anybody with comments on that charge call against Maryland? I'm pulling for Butler, but the charge seemed like a tough call at this point in the game.

03-17-2007, 04:24 PM	#415
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	It's GOOOD

03-17-2007, 05:23 PM	#423
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	Sosa goes 15-15 free throws, then misses 2.. wow.. A&M answers with 2 bricks.

03-17-2007, 05:23 PM	#424
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	Dola, every game has come down to the end today. Can't ask for much more.

03-17-2007, 05:24 PM	#425
-Mojo Jojo- High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2003	I think this is the most amazing day of basketball I've ever watched...

03-17-2007, 05:25 PM	#426
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	Horrible shot.. Get to the basket.

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BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	In general I'd have to say that todays games have been much better than most of the first round games. Many of them going down to the wire.

03-17-2007, 05:28 PM	#430
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	More proof of why Pitino is a shit coach.

03-17-2007, 05:35 PM	#431
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	Despite the miss at the end, you have to really be impressed by Sosa. He had a monster game and really kept Louisville in it. I thought we'd see a monster game from a guard there but I thought that guard would be Law (who played well also). I have A&M winning it all in every pool I did, so I was nervous there. I don't know if they'll play a tougher game than Louisville on the road (basically). Oddly enough, next (assuming Memphis advances) they would two games in their home state(against higher seeds).

03-17-2007, 06:21 PM	#432
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Wow, GREAT putback by Green.

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Do Timouts ALWAYS favor the offense over the defense, as every coach in the history of the world seems to think?

03-17-2007, 06:43 PM	#434
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	It probably depends on the relative strengths of the coaches.

03-17-2007, 06:48 PM	#435
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Georgetown is a great team to watch. They have the fundamentals of a mid-major.

03-17-2007, 07:02 PM	#436
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Jesus...wasn't Pitt just up 10+?

03-17-2007, 07:05 PM	#437
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	What a chokejob.

03-17-2007, 07:13 PM	#440
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Has there every been a day like this where every single game was competitive down to the wire? The first round was one of the more "boring" first rounds I can remember, today has been incredible and completely made up for it.

03-17-2007, 07:23 PM	#442
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03-17-2007, 07:28 PM	#443
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Deep breath. As a Pitt fan, I thought for sure they were going to blow it again. The refs did miss a travel call on Graves when he was trapped at the half court line with about 1:30 left. Every single game so far so basically gone down to the last possession. The "worst" game was the BC/GTown game. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-17-2007, 07:47 PM	#444
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	There's some things I will just never understand. I have no idea when the broadcasting community made the shift from "he's on the bench getting some rest" to "he's getting a blow." But I'm even more amazed that the announcers can say this with a serious tone.

03-17-2007, 08:26 PM	#448
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Interesting stats on today's first 6 games: Total margin of victory: 29 Total margin at the end of regulation: 13. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson Last edited by henry296 : 03-17-2007 at 08:27 PM.

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hoosiergoody Mascot Join Date: Nov 2005	so far IU and UCLA are a combined 15 for 61 shooting- wow. can't buy a basket...

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