$1,596.75

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

her: since the bats moved in over a gradual time frame, it's not covered.
me: so, if a herd of lemmings suddenly attacks the house and knocks down the door, THAT is covered?"
her: huh?
me: nevermind

Brilliant.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Just invite like 20 FOFC'ers over with fishing nets, and you provide the beer when all is said and done.

And once again - webcam first.

I'm up for that. DD is paying for the plane fare out there, right?

[stevew]

Fishing nets? Im thinking Tennis Rackets.

[rkmsuf]

don't mess around...flamethrowers for everyone.

[Buddy Grant]

Holy crap DD, at first I was gonna' say why on earth get rid of them, but your follow up description of events and numbers of pests poopooed that plan. Good luck, that is a pretty freaky problem.

[Draft Dodger]

Christine and I were on the couch eating a nice dinner when another bat flew into the family room. it's the 3rd one in about 6 weeks.

worst part: I opened the screen door for him to leave, but I lost track of him. I'm not sure at all if he left...or is just napping, waiting for me or my son to find him tomorrow.

so, I guess we're going to spend the money for sure now.

[RendeR]

While I must admit that reading this thread has been, to say the least, HILARIOUS, I have an idea for you.

My granmother had this problem with animals in both teh basement and the attics, she bought those electronic pest agitators...the ones that put out high end sound that pisses off the animals. The bats and squirrels acted annoyed, for about 30 second, then fled as fast as possible through every opening available.


go to your local outdoors shop and ask for these, buy 1-4 dependong on your taste in how fast you want to see these buggers fly off.

install webcam in attic

turn on pest annoyance devices

enjoy the show, then once they appear to be gone, take some scrap lumber and close off the access points.

this should cost you maybe 200 bucks, if everything you use is seriously expensive.

My gram said it was the funiest thing she ever saw as she watched a minimum of 20 chipmunks fight to be the first one out of the basement walls......


*mental image*

4 inch hole at ground level


15-20 chipmuck heads squashed tightly together all girating to get past the others...

*/ Mental Image*

[Draft Dodger]

so, we're going to go ahead and have the work done. it's going to be about a month before they can do it, so we may be putting up with a few stragglers in the house until then. the $1600 hurts though. and, literally the day after the inspection, the valve in our upstairs bath went out, and we had to get the plumber in - another hundred bucks or so we didn't really want to be spending.

had an interesting talk with the owner of the bat service today - he definitely is a
Grizzly Adams nature boy type (the kind who could live in the wilderness eating berries and mouse poop). At one point, he mentioned the bat he kept in his upstairs bathroom for a winter. (???)

Anyway, I wanted to ask how to flush out a bat hiding in the house, like the guy who may or may not be hiding in my family room now. He suggested smelly things - bats don't like mothballs, candles, incense, stuff like that. So, we've been burning incense upstairs pretty much constantly tonight, in hopes of at least keeping them at bay for a bit. All the incense though makes me think I need to buy some pot or something.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

Anyway, I wanted to ask how to flush out a bat hiding in the house, like the guy who may or may not be hiding in my family room now.

Having BTDT too many f'n times to count, and having what my wife refers to as "regular bat removal procedures", here's how it's done.

1) Seal off the area where you think the bat is from any parts of the house you definitely don't want him/her to be. No sense making things even worse.
2) He ain't gonna be doing a whole lot of moving around at night in most cases. Odds are, he's found a spot to perch himself upside down til morning.
3) Depending upon how squeamish you are (when it comes to animals that are occasionally rabid, for me that'd be "very"), a broom is your friend.
4) Think like a bat for a minute -- I don't wanna be fucked with, I just wanna get some sleep. Where can I go? In my house, about 90% of the time that means the little bastard has stuck himself to the highest & darkest place he can find -- tucked in the folds of the curtains or the valance(sp?) above the curtains.
5) This is where the broom comes in -- I've got 14 foot ceilings, so it ain't exactly like I can just reach up & grab the m.f. Work your way around the room, using the broom to spread the curtains. You'd be amazed how well a small fold can hide a small bat (quite small when they're curled up). Once you find him, knock hell outta the curtain.
6) A good swat with the broom usually sends them careening to the floor & they're stunned for a few seconds. That's where the broom comes in handier.
7) Make like Brett Hull & one-timer him toward the fuckin door (I recommend either opening the door beforehand OR having SWMBO be standing by to open the door at the appropriate moment).
8) Repeat Step 7 as needed until you put the biscuit in the basket ... or in this case, the bat outside instead of inside.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

SWMBO

What does SWMBO mean?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

What does SWMBO mean?

Universal internet shorthand for "She Who Must Be Obeyed"
Typically a wife, occasionally an unmarried significant other.

[pennywisesb]

Ok, thanks, I was enjoying your description of how to get rid of the bat, but then got thrown for a loop when I reached that acronym.

[Draft Dodger]

this room is tough. there are ANY number of places for a bat to hide. one entire wall is built in book-cases, 20-wide, 10' tall. add in a computer desk, tv, heater, and approximately 6,000 toys.

I really gave the room a good going over...even crawled underneath my computer desk and looked behind the computer (a nice, warm place), but no dice. but, really, he could be anywhere. the last time, he was on the floor in a corner, and I had totally missed him when I looked the first time.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Having BTDT too many f'n times to count, and having what my wife refers to as "regular bat removal procedures", here's how it's done.

1) Seal off the area where you think the bat is from any parts of the house you definitely don't want him/her to be. No sense making things even worse.
2) He ain't gonna be doing a whole lot of moving around at night in most cases. Odds are, he's found a spot to perch himself upside down til morning.
3) Depending upon how squeamish you are (when it comes to animals that are occasionally rabid, for me that'd be "very"), a broom is your friend.
4) Think like a bat for a minute -- I don't wanna be fucked with, I just wanna get some sleep. Where can I go? In my house, about 90% of the time that means the little bastard has stuck himself to the highest & darkest place he can find -- tucked in the folds of the curtains or the valance(sp?) above the curtains.
5) This is where the broom comes in -- I've got 14 foot ceilings, so it ain't exactly like I can just reach up & grab the m.f. Work your way around the room, using the broom to spread the curtains. You'd be amazed how well a small fold can hide a small bat (quite small when they're curled up). Once you find him, knock hell outta the curtain.
6) A good swat with the broom usually sends them careening to the floor & they're stunned for a few seconds. That's where the broom comes in handier.
7) Make like Brett Hull & one-timer him toward the fuckin door (I recommend either opening the door beforehand OR having SWMBO be standing by to open the door at the appropriate moment).
8) Repeat Step 7 as needed until you put the biscuit in the basket ... or in this case, the bat outside instead of inside.

Gold.

[Draft Dodger]

the very first bat we had in the house was a BITCH to get out. for a while he was hanging on the back of our stereo...and wouldn't let go. then, he finally did, and crawled under an entertainment center that was too heavy to lose. EVENTUALLY the idiot landed on the curtain string hanging from an open window. here he is, inches from freedom, and he's just hanging on the string. I just swung the tennis racket and *thwacked* him out the open window. not very smart, these little rodents.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Damn, humor comes in the strangest threads. I've laughed more at this one than anything else today.

Damn straight!

Sorry to hear this, DD, but you gotta admit, this would be funny if you weren't the person who's house it was. Hope you get it straighted out.

SI

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Having BTDT too many f'n times to count, and having what my wife refers to as "regular bat removal procedures", here's how it's done.

1) Seal off the area where you think the bat is from any parts of the house you definitely don't want him/her to be. No sense making things even worse.
2) He ain't gonna be doing a whole lot of moving around at night in most cases. Odds are, he's found a spot to perch himself upside down til morning.
3) Depending upon how squeamish you are (when it comes to animals that are occasionally rabid, for me that'd be "very"), a broom is your friend.
4) Think like a bat for a minute -- I don't wanna be fucked with, I just wanna get some sleep. Where can I go? In my house, about 90% of the time that means the little bastard has stuck himself to the highest & darkest place he can find -- tucked in the folds of the curtains or the valance(sp?) above the curtains.
5) This is where the broom comes in -- I've got 14 foot ceilings, so it ain't exactly like I can just reach up & grab the m.f. Work your way around the room, using the broom to spread the curtains. You'd be amazed how well a small fold can hide a small bat (quite small when they're curled up). Once you find him, knock hell outta the curtain.
6) A good swat with the broom usually sends them careening to the floor & they're stunned for a few seconds. That's where the broom comes in handier.
7) Make like Brett Hull & one-timer him toward the fuckin door (I recommend either opening the door beforehand OR having SWMBO be standing by to open the door at the appropriate moment).
8) Repeat Step 7 as needed until you put the biscuit in the basket ... or in this case, the bat outside instead of inside.

When the sun rises, you should be the one on top of the peak.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Damn straight!

Sorry to hear this, DD, but you gotta admit, this would be funny if you weren't the person who's house it was. Hope you get it straighted out.

SI

oh, I do chuckle about it. the money is kind of tough, especially right now, but life could be much worse

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

What does SWMBO mean?

Newby

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

Anyway, I wanted to ask how to flush out a bat hiding in the house, like the guy who may or may not be hiding in my family room now. He suggested smelly things - bats don't like mothballs, candles, incense, stuff like that. So, we've been burning incense upstairs pretty much constantly tonight, in hopes of at least keeping them at bay for a bit. All the incense though makes me think I need to buy some pot or something.

I'd add some sitar music. I've heard they hate that, too.

And Jon, that was epic stuff. LOL on the Brett Hull comment.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

And Jon, that was epic stuff. LOL on the Brett Hull comment.

The sad part is that it's all true -- my wife & one of her friends (who has similar bat experiences) have begun lobbying for bat removal to be the next Olympic sport.

The even sadder part (to me at least) is that my first bat removal attempt is a far funnier story than the now tried-and-true procedure that I described here.
It was just fuckin' pathetic on my part, and that's about all that needs to be said I think.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Universal internet shorthand for "She Who Must Be Obeyed"
Typically a wife, occasionally an unmarried significant other.

You can add that this is typically referencing Mrs SkyDog

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Alf

You can add that this is typically referencing Mrs SkyDog

Well, it is defininitely a generic terminology, but I was probably the first to use it regularly at FOFC.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Oddly enough, the most common internet slang used by women to describe husbands is "DH" aka Dear Husband.

Seems kinda unfair ... until you realize that we often put more affection in "SWMBO" than they intend with "DH" (which can be used very sarcastically).

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

(which can be used very sarcastically).

No kidding. My wife's adoption agency has a company-run message board (which is, by the way, one of the dumbest ideas ever for an adoption agency), and the potential adoptive moms on their often use it sarcastically.

[heybrad]

I thought this would be the appropriate thread to post an article that I thought was cool because my brother is quoted in it and its about bats.

http://www.recordnet.com/daily/news/...81904-gn-4.php

Evicted bats return to Thornton bridge site

By David Siders
Record Staff Writer
Published Thursday, August 19, 2004

THORNTON -- Bats that had been evicted from under an old farm-truck bridge on the San Joaquin/Sacramento County line are back.

That's good news for the bats and for nearby farmers, too.

The dilapidated Franklin Boulevard/Thornton Road bridge was closed after floods in 1997 ruined wood pilings under it and caused it to sag. Bats roosting under it were kicked out ahead of a bridge reconstruction that is to be finished in November.

Lately, however, bridge watchers have noticed construction crews have company underfoot.

Seven thousand bats have been counted so far under the replacement bridge, which was designed with bat-friendly, redwood-lined crevices installed in the concrete, said Craig Moyle, a spokesman for the Sacramento County Department of Environmental Review and Assessment.

"If you're quiet, you'll hear them chirping," he said.

The bats that are back are just a fraction of the once 40,000-strong. Persuading them to leave the redwood bridge in the first place required caulking shut the crevices in which the bats slept, or covering them with mesh, Moyle said.

"Every night they would go out there for weeks on end plugging up the old crevices," he said.

The bats moved into trees and bat houses erected nearby, he said.

The replacement bridge, like its predecessor, spans the Mokelumne River, connecting two farm-to-market roads. The bats benefit the local farm economy by eating crop-assaulting insects, said Tim Hawkins, an environmental analyst with the Sacramento County Department of Environmental Review and Assessment.

Moyle said insects swarm the area near the bridge.

"The bats are there for a reason," he said.

The $13.5 million replacement bridge has room for 600,000 bats, but it is unclear how many will return to roost there. It is difficult to count how many might remain in the surrounding trees, Hawkins said.

"We're crossing our fingers and waiting until next year to see," he said. "There's not much we can do to lure them."

The bridge has apparently been lure enough. Moyle said the bats sleep there because it is warm, and fly out from under the bridge in waves to feast on insects when the sun sets.

Moyle said the bats are almost undetectable during the day, except for droppings on the ground that look like "burnt Rice Krispies."

Hawkins said he was surprised any bats had returned yet at all. He said he figured the construction overhead would scare them away.

The federal government is paying about 80 percent of the reconstruction of the bridge; San Joaquin and Sacramento counties are contributing the rest.


**my brother is the Environmental Analyst

[KevinNU7]

Hey Brad Hawkins!

[Raven]

Dude, you should have known what to expect when you bought the place.

[SlapBone]

Originally Posted by Ryche

Better than a baseball bat, use an old tennis racket...larger surface area and the holes in it messes up their radar.

I actually managed to kill a bat flying around our house with a teddy bear when I was a child. I think it may have died of embarrassment at being taken down in that way though.

Fishing rods don't have quite the surface area but they have an equally confusing radar profile.

When I was a kid....oh never mind, the PETA people will have a fit.

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by SlapBone

Fishing rods don't have quite the surface area but they have an equally confusing radar profile.

When I was a kid....oh never mind, the PETA people will have a fit.

I don't think we have any PETA people here.

I'd recommend a lacrosse stick.

[SteelerFan448]

Just get some nets and get them out during the day when they're sleeping. Make sure you also seal up any holes where they can get in. No sense paying that much when you can do it yourself. Even remove them over a period of time if you are worried about a swarm of bats attacking you.

[SlapBone]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I don't think we have any PETA people here.

I'd recommend a lacrosse stick.

Ok...cool. When I was a kid we would take white limestone rocks and throw them in the air and the bats would follow them almost to the ground. Almost was when you heard the whistle of a rod blank humming through the air. You had to swing it like you were trying to cast. We missed more than we we hit but it was hours of fun. We usually got 1 or 2 everytime we did it. It's amazing what a piece of limber graphite can do to a winged rat.

Edit: For city folk a "rod blank" is a fishing rod that hasn't had any hardware epoxied to it (like eyes or a handle).

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by SlapBone

Ok...cool. When I was a kid we would take white limestone rocks and throw them in the air and the bats would follow them almost to the ground. Almost was when you heard the whistle of a rod blank humming through the air. You had to swing it like you were trying to cast. We missed more than we we hit but it was hours of fun. We usually got 1 or 2 everytime we did it. It's amazing what a piece of limber graphite can do to a winged rat.

Edit: For city folk a "rod blank" is a fishing rod that hasn't had any hardware epoxied to it (like eyes or a handle).

Sweet.

Reminds me of the time I was at Ocean City, MD as a kid, and I saw a guy fishing off one of the piers. He cast out a line, and while it was in mid-air, a seagull swooped down and snatched the bait.

There's nothing funnier than watching a guy try to reel in a flying seagull.

[Ksyrup]

So...how much does it cost to remove 3,500 pounds of bat shit from an attic?

3,500 Lbs. of Bat Guano Found in Attic

May 3 09:45 AM US/Eastern

BALLSTON SPA, N.Y. (AP) - An upstate New York couple didn't think a few bats in the attic were much of a problem when they were buying a house last summer. Months later, they found out how wrong they were when they discovered more than a ton and a half of bat droppings up there. Nick LaBoda and Jenna Caputo say a home inspector informed them about the bats. They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly. Then they forgot about the bats until they smelled a foul odor in January. When they checked the attic, they found dead bats and piles of guano. An exterminator says hundreds of bats had been living in the attic, leaving behind 3,500 pounds of droppings. It cost $25,000 to clean up the mess, and the couple's insurance company wouldn't cover it. They're fighting it out in court.

[Draft Dodger]

3500 pounds sounds like a LOT more than hundreds of bats. bat droppings are a lot like mouse droppings.

[Ksyrup]

We should do a class action against insurance companies who refuse to cover for the cost of shit removal.

[MikeVic]

Wow this is an old thread.

[Ksyrup]

I have good recall for bat shit-related stories.

[JediKooter]

3500 pounds of bat doo and it took them THAT long to notice the smell?

[Ksyrup]

"They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly."


What's the logic here? Save the baby bats, and cause yourself $25K of problems in the process? Otherwise, I would think removing the bats before they could fly would be much easier. And the kicker is that they ended up dead, anyway.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

3500 pounds of bat doo and it took them THAT long to notice the smell?

That's the first thing I thought. How would you not notice that when first looking at the place. I don't care how much deodorizer they use.

[Kodos]

Think of it as free insulation.

[Celeval]

Isn't bat guano a good source for some gunpowder ingredients?

*boom*

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

"They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly."


What's the logic here? Save the baby bats, and cause yourself $25K of problems in the process? Otherwise, I would think removing the bats before they could fly would be much easier. And the kicker is that they ended up dead, anyway.

IIRC, in many places it's illegal to remove bats while the babies are too young. I know we had some very specific windows where we were able to remove the bats, otherwise we'd have to wait.

[Ksyrup]

Ah, another "spotted owls rape lumberjacks" moment. I see.

[bulletsponge]

poor bats. they just want a nice home

[Mr. Wednesday]

Seems like there ought to be action against the home inspector and/or the seller of the house, if that much guano managed to go unnoticed.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Wow this is an old thread.

Pretty safe bet there aren't a whole lot of threads on the board about guano...

SI

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Napalm seemed to work pretty well in 'Nam.

[Mo.Raider]

Moth balls might do the trick. It usually makes things move out in a hurry. If the entry ways are not actual roof leaks, try some of that foam sealant that comes in a can and expands.