TCY 2 or FOF?

jbmagic · 12-16-2005, 03:18 PM

Now that Jim has announce he working on new versions of TCY and FOF, which one will you like to see get release?

yabanci · 12-16-2005, 03:19 PM

cthomer5000 · 12-16-2005, 03:20 PM

Tough call. I think TCY needs the overhaul more, but it might be worth keeping the momentum and gigantic lead FOF has over the industry going.

As I move more and more into the category of "college football fan" over "pro football fan," I still find myself way more into the pro game for video games/sims.

Vegas Vic · 12-16-2005, 03:22 PM

TCY 2 multiplayer.

MizzouRah · 12-16-2005, 03:22 PM

With BBCF out, FOF for sure.

DaddyTorgo · 12-16-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

With BBCF out, FOF for sure.

i agree

KWhit · 12-16-2005, 03:23 PM

Coder · 12-16-2005, 03:23 PM

I want a more detailed FOF and more multiplayer focused.. more OOTP-like features.. customizable league sizes, player profiles in HTML output..

and more input from TCY into FOF ;-) (so a TCY1.5 patch would be a good starter) ;-)

WSUCougar · 12-16-2005, 03:26 PM

A new version of FOF would presumably kill any "history" in multiplayer leagues, would it not? That is, the league would either have to continue on with the old version or start fresh from ground zero with the new.

I'll say TCY2.

George · 12-16-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

With BBCF out, FOF for sure.

Agreed.

MrBug708 · 12-16-2005, 03:28 PM

It's been a lot longer for TCY so I would want to see that. Im not too thrilled with BBCF as it stands. TCY is much more simplistic but so much more fun

CraigSca · 12-16-2005, 03:33 PM

I'd love TCY2, only because I like college football more than the NFL, though I am probably in the minority.

Other than "improve FA AI", I'm not sure there's much more I'd add to FOF.

duckman · 12-16-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

A new version of FOF would presumably kill any "history" in multiplayer leagues, would it not? That is, the league would either have to continue on with the old version or start fresh from ground zero with the new.

I'll say TCY2.

Since he's participating in IHOF, I would suspect that he is putting that into consideration for any update.

the_meanstrosity · 12-16-2005, 03:36 PM

Since I haven't purchased BBCF, I'll choose TCY 2. I still play the original TCY, but I'd love to see an update.

SackAttack · 12-16-2005, 04:02 PM

I bought BBCF, but that said, Jim's previous releases have been good for literally years of enjoyment for me. We're closing in on a decade of me having at least one version of FOF installed continuously.

I'd say that's earned some carte blanche from me. Pro or collegiate football, or any other sport into which he may delve in the future, I'll still reach for my wallet as long as his future releases meet the same standards of quality his previous releases have.

TCY? Cool. It badly needs a fresh coat of paint.

FOF? Also cool. I'd love to see that game reach the immersion level of FM and EHM.

KJDelaney · 12-16-2005, 04:12 PM

It has to be TCY. The FOF series is SOLID. TCY leaves a lot to be desired. TCY 2 with playcalling, multiplayer, and less micromanaging.

That just me.

Warhammer · 12-16-2005, 04:17 PM

I vote for TCY2, but if he does FOF, I bet there would be a way to move leagues from FOF2k4 to FOF2k6

Gallifrey · 12-16-2005, 04:36 PM

I think SackAttack in post #15 and KJDelaney in post #16 hit the nail on the head for me too.

Either would make me a happy camper. But if it is TCY2, and it is as solid as FOF is now, the many hours of great game time will make the wait worth while.

RPI-Fan · 12-16-2005, 04:41 PM

What exactly is it that people think can be added to FOF to make it that much better?

TCY has so much more room for potential, just in the nature of the game. Dare I dream of TCY multiplayer?

sachmo71 · 12-16-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

What exactly is it that people think can be added to FOF to make it that much better?

TCY has so much more room for potential, just in the nature of the game. Dare I dream of TCY multiplayer?

Gotta wonder which sells better, what with all of this family focus for the past two years.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=30026

gottimd · 12-16-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

What exactly is it that people think can be added to FOF to make it that much better?

See the "Ideas for FOF6" thread. There are tons of ideas in there. Obviously it is opinion that they will make the game that much better, but there is definitely room for more stuff to be added to the game.

As for TCY2, I can't speak for because I have never played the game, I am more of a pro football fan. But if he is updating both and then will release when ready, I think everyone of us gets a little something.

timmynausea · 12-16-2005, 04:48 PM

I could go either way. Ultimately I went with TCY because I don't play it anymore and I still play FOF 2004.

fantastic flying froggies · 12-16-2005, 04:49 PM

Where's the 'both' option?

Capital · 12-16-2005, 04:57 PM

FOF - I just like the drafting and maintaining a player for their career.

timmynausea · 12-16-2005, 04:59 PM

Multiplayer TCY would probably be the best game ever.

Bad-example · 12-16-2005, 05:02 PM

I will buy any game Jim releases, as long as it isn't a college sports game.

I agree with Antmeister that combining TCY and FOF into one game would be best. One product to support and update, leaving more time for a completely new product or two down the line.

gottimd · 12-16-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Capital

FOF - I just like the drafting and maintaining a player for their career.

Yeah, that is why I cant get into a College Football game. I like the ability to watch players careers for more than 4 years.

MP TCY??? What like 100+ different AD's or GM's? That is a ton of coding I would think.

st.cronin · 12-16-2005, 05:11 PM

It's too bad fofc isn't like Wisconsin, then I could vote for tcy2 as many times as I wanted.

Darkiller · 12-16-2005, 05:18 PM

FOF is really solid now, plus with FOF2 still very much alive for me and FOF2004 doing wonders in the IHOF, I'd rather see TCY get updated.

Raiders Army · 12-16-2005, 05:24 PM

JeeberD · 12-16-2005, 05:27 PM

I want to see a new FOF but I expect that its going to be TCY2...

Neuqua · 12-16-2005, 05:32 PM

Pumpy Tudors · 12-16-2005, 05:35 PM

Wait, where did he announce that he's doing new versions of these games?

gottimd · 12-16-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Wait, where did he announce that he's doing new versions of these games?

Check the sticky thread, first post.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-16-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Check the sticky thread, first post.

Oops. I always miss the sticky threads because I never expect them to change. Thanks.

Dutch · 12-16-2005, 06:25 PM

Front Office Football is the flagship title and will remain so even when another sport is added.

TCY2 really needs a face lift.

I'll buy either one, and actually prefer more FOF. But the reality is that I'm already playing the heck out of FOF and haven't touched TCY in a while.

Either way, I'll be happy.

Emiliano · 12-16-2005, 07:00 PM

TCY 2.

Icy · 12-16-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

With BBCF out, FOF for sure.

Same for me, i miss a pro game now.

vex · 12-16-2005, 07:38 PM

TCY2, not even close.

gottimd · 12-16-2005, 07:43 PM

FOF6, no second thought needed.

Cuckoo · 12-16-2005, 08:04 PM

vex and gottimd are going to mud wrestle, no doubt in my mind.

gottimd · 12-16-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

vex and gottimd are going to mud wrestle, no doubt in my mind.

How do you know we haven't?

vex · 12-16-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

vex and gottimd are going to mud wrestle, no doubt in my mind.

If the winner gets to choose the next game, I'll wrestle him again.

streetballer22 · 12-16-2005, 08:58 PM

Probably TCY since I already love and enjoy FOF2K4.

MizzouRah · 12-16-2005, 09:00 PM

Very close.

TroyF · 12-16-2005, 09:10 PM

no brainer for me, it's FOF

Airhog · 12-16-2005, 09:16 PM

I'd put my money on TCY2. I think it would be a good idea. Since FOF5 is so much newer, he might get more sales long term if he developed a TCY2

Airhog · 12-16-2005, 09:19 PM

Dola: I think a bigger question to ask is if Jim plans to base his decision on what the majority of people here want? Or even if what we want would have a small influence on it.

twothree · 12-16-2005, 10:58 PM

TCY2, I agree with a lot of the above posts. TCY is the older product and it would be nice to have current FOF elements included in TCY.

lighthousekeeper · 12-16-2005, 10:58 PM

It's FOF that I originally fell in love with, and I'd love to be able to recapture that feeling again.

View Poll Results: Which New version will you like to see get release?
TCY 2	55	52.38%
FOF	50	47.62%
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12-16-2005, 03:23 PM	#8
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	I want a more detailed FOF and more multiplayer focused.. more OOTP-like features.. customizable league sizes, player profiles in HTML output.. and more input from TCY into FOF ;-) (so a TCY1.5 patch would be a good starter) ;-) __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

12-16-2005, 03:26 PM	#9
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	A new version of FOF would presumably kill any "history" in multiplayer leagues, would it not? That is, the league would either have to continue on with the old version or start fresh from ground zero with the new. I'll say TCY2. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

12-16-2005, 03:28 PM	#11
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It's been a lot longer for TCY so I would want to see that. Im not too thrilled with BBCF as it stands. TCY is much more simplistic but so much more fun Last edited by MrBug708 : 12-16-2005 at 03:29 PM. Reason: Grammar

12-16-2005, 03:33 PM	#12
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	I'd love TCY2, only because I like college football more than the NFL, though I am probably in the minority. Other than "improve FA AI", I'm not sure there's much more I'd add to FOF. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

12-16-2005, 03:19 PM	#2
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	FOF

12-16-2005, 03:22 PM	#4
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	TCY 2 multiplayer.

12-16-2005, 03:22 PM	#5
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	With BBCF out, FOF for sure.

12-16-2005, 03:23 PM	#7
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	FOF.

12-16-2005, 03:36 PM	#14
the_meanstrosity College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002	Since I haven't purchased BBCF, I'll choose TCY 2. I still play the original TCY, but I'd love to see an update.

12-16-2005, 04:02 PM	#15
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	I bought BBCF, but that said, Jim's previous releases have been good for literally years of enjoyment for me. We're closing in on a decade of me having at least one version of FOF installed continuously. I'd say that's earned some carte blanche from me. Pro or collegiate football, or any other sport into which he may delve in the future, I'll still reach for my wallet as long as his future releases meet the same standards of quality his previous releases have. TCY? Cool. It badly needs a fresh coat of paint. FOF? Also cool. I'd love to see that game reach the immersion level of FM and EHM.

12-16-2005, 04:12 PM	#16
KJDelaney High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Lewisville, TX	It has to be TCY. The FOF series is SOLID. TCY leaves a lot to be desired. TCY 2 with playcalling, multiplayer, and less micromanaging. That just me.

12-16-2005, 04:17 PM	#17
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	I vote for TCY2, but if he does FOF, I bet there would be a way to move leagues from FOF2k4 to FOF2k6

12-16-2005, 04:36 PM	#18
Gallifrey High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle, Washington	I think SackAttack in post #15 and KJDelaney in post #16 hit the nail on the head for me too. Either would make me a happy camper. But if it is TCY2, and it is as solid as FOF is now, the many hours of great game time will make the wait worth while.

12-16-2005, 04:41 PM	#19
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	What exactly is it that people think can be added to FOF to make it that much better? TCY has so much more room for potential, just in the nature of the game. Dare I dream of TCY multiplayer? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

12-16-2005, 04:48 PM	#22
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	I could go either way. Ultimately I went with TCY because I don't play it anymore and I still play FOF 2004.

12-16-2005, 04:49 PM	#23
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Where's the 'both' option? __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

12-16-2005, 04:57 PM	#24
Capital High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	FOF - I just like the drafting and maintaining a player for their career.

12-16-2005, 04:59 PM	#25
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Multiplayer TCY would probably be the best game ever.

12-16-2005, 05:02 PM	#26
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	I will buy any game Jim releases, as long as it isn't a college sports game. I agree with Antmeister that combining TCY and FOF into one game would be best. One product to support and update, leaving more time for a completely new product or two down the line.

12-16-2005, 05:11 PM	#28
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	It's too bad fofc isn't like Wisconsin, then I could vote for tcy2 as many times as I wanted. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-16-2005, 05:18 PM	#29
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	FOF is really solid now, plus with FOF2 still very much alive for me and FOF2004 doing wonders in the IHOF, I'd rather see TCY get updated. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

12-16-2005, 05:24 PM	#30
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	FOF

12-16-2005, 05:27 PM	#31
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I want to see a new FOF but I expect that its going to be TCY2... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

12-16-2005, 05:32 PM	#32
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	FOF __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

12-16-2005, 05:35 PM	#33
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Wait, where did he announce that he's doing new versions of these games? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-16-2005, 06:25 PM	#36
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Front Office Football is the flagship title and will remain so even when another sport is added. TCY2 really needs a face lift. I'll buy either one, and actually prefer more FOF. But the reality is that I'm already playing the heck out of FOF and haven't touched TCY in a while. Either way, I'll be happy.

12-16-2005, 07:00 PM	#37
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	TCY 2. __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

12-16-2005, 07:38 PM	#39
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	TCY2, not even close.

12-16-2005, 07:43 PM	#40
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	FOF6, no second thought needed. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

12-16-2005, 08:04 PM	#41
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	vex and gottimd are going to mud wrestle, no doubt in my mind. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

12-16-2005, 08:58 PM	#44
streetballer22 Mascot Join Date: Feb 2005	Probably TCY since I already love and enjoy FOF2K4.

12-16-2005, 09:00 PM	#45
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Very close.

12-16-2005, 09:10 PM	#46
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	no brainer for me, it's FOF

12-16-2005, 09:16 PM	#47
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	I'd put my money on TCY2. I think it would be a good idea. Since FOF5 is so much newer, he might get more sales long term if he developed a TCY2 __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!