09-27-2004, 03:25 PM | #1 | ||
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Is YOUR STATE getting the federal pork spending that it deserves?
http://www.taxfoundation.org/ff/taxi...ingupdate.html
This is a report showing how much federal money states receive relative to the federal taxes that they pay. |
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09-27-2004, 05:25 PM | #2 |
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We're getting a lot in Oklahoma...quite frankly, that needs to stop. I'm tired of pork spending and that's why I endorse Tom Coburn for Senate in Oklahoma.
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09-27-2004, 05:27 PM | #3 |
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What the hell does Mississippi have to spend so much money on?
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09-27-2004, 05:41 PM | #4 |
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Mississippi? How about North Dakota? They can't spend that much money on trying to censor The Afoci, can they?
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09-27-2004, 05:45 PM | #5 |
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California has gone down, but we haven't been on the good side of Republicans for a while
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09-27-2004, 06:19 PM | #6 | |
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09-27-2004, 07:26 PM | #7 |
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New Jersey is dead last....*looks around the state*.....yup, sounds about right.
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09-27-2004, 07:49 PM | #8 |
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It does blow up the conventional wisdom that Dem voters are living off the federal tit. Take out D.C. and eight of the top nine states are Red.
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09-27-2004, 07:59 PM | #9 | |
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Absolutly true. However, there are a large number of reasons for this, so let's not introduce a spurious relationship. Conservative states tend to be rural. Rural areas tend to have higher unemployment, infrastructure issues, lower income, and so forth. All of those factors lead to, arguably, more federal spending per tax dollar than for other states. Frankly, there should be inequities in the system if it worked perfectly. If I built an interstate stretching directly from DC to San Francisco, in some states, it would cost more to build, due to geography. In some states, the interstate would appear to be more or less per tax dollar based on the econony of the state. States with worse economies appear on this chart closer to the top, which makes sense. -Anxiety
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09-27-2004, 08:15 PM | #10 |
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Kinda blows the theory that Dubya is playing favorites with his brother in Florida.
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09-27-2004, 08:43 PM | #11 |
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Generally the biggest factor in who gets the pork is where the military bases are located. Nevada is definitely an exception to that. Of course, I doubt they include spending on Area 51.
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09-27-2004, 08:44 PM | #12 |
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Yeah, but Jersey has plenty of bases, but yet is dead last. I love how every politician who runs in Jersey for national office says that he'll get our money back because we pay more than we take... but they never do .
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09-27-2004, 08:50 PM | #13 | |
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Dubya is a member of Congress? Hmmm... |
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09-27-2004, 09:02 PM | #14 |
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Anxiety: Of course there are multiple reasons for the disparities. What I find interesting is that the myth of Dems wanting more from the government than they pay isn't born out. Of course if you look at the way this congress has spent like drunken sailors, you would know that its a bunch of bulls$#*. At the end of the day both parties are more than willing to spend other people's money.
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09-27-2004, 09:08 PM | #15 | |
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Notice that whenever this Republican Congress passes a bill, usually its the Democrats that complain more wasn't done...usually that means more spending. |
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09-27-2004, 09:27 PM | #16 |
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Sooner: Only in some instances. There have been plenty of spending bills, notably ag. subsidies and the highway bill, that the Repubs added billions in giveaways to. They have also been quite prolific at "targeted" taxcuts for corporate friends that make no economic sense, but payback donors. Just look at the mess that the corporate tax bill coming up is. It got so overloaded that the Repubs moved billions from it to the middle-class bill that just passed.
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09-27-2004, 09:50 PM | #17 |
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Oh, I agree its a problem both sides have...that's for sure. I'm just saying that it's not like it would be better if Democrats were in power, in fact, it could be a lot worse. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing money just being used as bribes to get votes. When Tom Coburn was in the house, he was offered highway money for his district in exchange for a vote...he declined the funding. I believe he voted for the bill anyway, he just declined the money on principle. Anyway, for more on his cost cutting, go here http://www.coburnforsenate.com/feder...citsdebt.shtml .
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09-27-2004, 10:10 PM | #18 |
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Every Sunday in our paper, the present an issue, give a writeup and bullet-list the candidates' views on that particular issue. More times than not, they are very similar. In yesterday's paper, it was on Budget Deficit. Two points came out.
1) Congress (as it has always done) does whatever it damn well wants to in regards to crafting, negotiating and finalizing a budget. In other words, declare the president's budget DOA and then re-do it in the various committees. 2) Both candidates, through their spoken views and platforms, will not have any positive effect on the budget deficit. In other words, what they have "promised" will cost more and more money, which Congress will be glad to spend. Do this country a favor - don't vote for either presidential candidate and don't vote for any of the f-ing incumbents in Congress. Keep recycling them until we get a critical mass of representatives that truly have the balls (or ovaries) to cut spending. Please. |
09-28-2004, 01:13 AM | #19 |
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South Dakota is in the top 10, which does not surprise me. That is why Daschle and Johnson keep getting elected. A lot of people here aren't happy with them and would love to see John Thune in office, but they are afraid that we would actually get the amount of money that we deserve. We like our pork here. South Dakotans are not about to vote their gift horses out.
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