Indiana Hires Kelvin Sampson

[duckman]

Sucks to see him go.

He is a hell of a good coach. If anyone can bring the Hoosiers back to the top of the college basketball world, it would be Sampson.

hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2387372

Sources say Sampson replaces Davis at Indiana
By Andy Katz

ESPN.com

Oklahoma's Kelvin Sampson is expected to leave the school to become the next head coach at Indiana, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

Sampson already told OU athletic director Joe Castiglione of his plans and was scheduled to meet with the Sooner team Tuesday afternoon.

A news conference announcing his hiring at Indiana could take place as early as Wednesday afternoon in Bloomington.

Sampson replaces Mike Davis, who took over for Hall of Fame coach Bob Knight in 2000.

[MrBug708]

Heh. Poor Poor Indiana.

WHich begs the question; Who is the heir apparent to Lute Olson at Arizona now?

[duckman]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Heh. Poor Poor Indiana.

Why don't you enlighten me why this is not a good hire?

[Daimyo]

I know Sampson was a big name back in 2002, but then so was Davis. What has he done since?

[Kodos]

And hasn't he been investigated for NCAA infractions. WTF?

[MrBug708]

Kelvin Sampson has baggage. He just went from second fiddle at a BCS powerhouse to life in a fishbowl. He's going to alienate the fans where he is at and will probably being in studio 4 years from now. Sampson is a name hire no doubt, but he's not a rising star name by any stretch

[vex]

Rock on. Very good news for this OU fan.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Kodos

And hasn't he been investigated for NCAA infractions. WTF?

Yes. This hiring is curious.

[Johnny93g]

the indiana message board i visit is up in arms

If a OU fan could enlighten me, there's talk of 550 violations against the school, and a 0% grad rate. Is this true? Are they bad violations?

Now i take these numbers with a grain of salt, because i dont know how accurate any "fans" could be about this stuff, but i hope non of that would come to IU

I really like Sampson's track record. He win's alot of games. Always has, and probably always will.

Another question. Will any OU recruits follow coach sampson? I looked quickly on rivals, and saw 1 5 star guy, and 4 4 star guys commited to the Sooners. 4 of them are local, but im curious, because he have 2-5 openings depending on transfers

[WSUCougar]

Ha! WSU cast off Sampson years ago. We were tired of his shenanigans! The Coug AD just waltzed into his office and said, "Get outta here, ya bum." So he fled to the midlands.

Yeah, that's how it happened.

[/revisionist history]

[vex]

Johnny93g, nothing more than phone calls IIRC.

[timmynausea]

Hopefully this is true as it'd mean John Beilein will most likely remain at West Virginia.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Ha! WSU cast off Sampson years ago. We were tired of his shenanigans! The Coug AD just waltzed into his office and said, "Get outta here, ya bum." So he fled to the midlands.

Yeah, that's how it happened.

[/revisionist history]

WSU could use Kelvin Sampson right about now....

[kurtism]

Well, while I am surprised by this hire (since his name was completely absent from the rumor mill), I think IU made a good hire. Good record, good recruiter, and very respected in the basketball world (from all I have heard). IU could have done much, much worse (read: Stevie Alford).

[st.cronin]

lol stupid Indiana

Mike Davis will be in the Sweet Sixteen as a head coach before Indiana is.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Heh. Poor Poor Indiana.

WHich begs the question; Who is the heir apparent to Lute Olson at Arizona now?

Mark Few.

[Johnny93g]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

lol stupid Indiana

Mike Davis will be in the Sweet Sixteen as a head coach before Indiana is.

lol stupid St.cronin

maybe he deserves at least a day on the job before the bashing starts

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by timmynausea

Hopefully this is true as it'd mean John Beilein will most likely remain at West Virginia.

Now we will probably get to hear about him going to Oklahoma for the next week or two.

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Now we will probably get to hear about him going to Oklahoma for the next week or two.

I hear Quinn Snyder's available.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Heh. Poor Poor Indiana.

WHich begs the question; Who is the heir apparent to Lute Olson at Arizona now?

Very good news for this Arizona fan. Nothing scared me more than having Kelvin in our future. For replacing Lute, who knows? He's probably going to keep coaching another 5-6 seasons at this rate. When he does leave, whomever the hot mid-major coach with Western ties will get a look - as will Steve Kerr if he's interested.

The point is it won't be Kelvin and that's a very good thing.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Mark Few.

If Mark Few hasnt left by the time Lute Olson has retired, he isn't going to be leaving.

And Arles, as a UCLA fan, I pray to GOD that Arizona would hire Steve Kerr as HC.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

I hear Quinn Snyder's available.

That's never going to get old, is it? I'm pretty sure we've got at least 3 more seasons of "I hear Quinn Snyder's available."

[cartman]

I've heard that Larry Eustachy isn't happy with the quality of Conference USA coeds and wants to get back into the Big 12...

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

If Mark Few hasnt left by the time Lute Olson has retired, he isn't going to be leaving.

I'm not so sure about that. The next 2-3 seasons will be critical in that regard - can Gonzaga get over the hump and get to a Final Four or better, and when does Lute decide to step down?

Few seriously considered the Washington job 4 years ago when it was a program in the dumps. Why wouldn't he seriously consider one of the premier jobs in the country at Arizona? I'm not saying it's a sure thing that he'd take the job, but you have to think Arizona would strongly consider him and if so, make a big push to get him. And Few would be dumb not to strongly consider it. He could move on to a program with even higher prestige and give himself a greater chance at a National Championship and at the same time hand over the Gonzaga program to one of his buddies on the staff there.

[Balldog]

I've sent Oklahoma my resume.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Balldog

I've sent Oklahoma my resume.

You'll just leave for Maryland after several seasons of not being able to make it past the Sweet Sixteen...

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I'm not so sure about that. The next 2-3 seasons will be critical in that regard - can Gonzaga get over the hump and get to a Final Four or better, and when does Lute decide to step down?

Few seriously considered the Washington job 4 years ago when it was a program in the dumps. Why wouldn't he seriously consider one of the premier jobs in the country at Arizona? I'm not saying it's a sure thing that he'd take the job, but you have to think Arizona would strongly consider him and if so, make a big push to get him. And Few would be dumb not to strongly consider it. He could move on to a program with even higher prestige and give himself a greater chance at a National Championship and at the same time hand over the Gonzaga program to one of his buddies on the staff there.

Pitt's Jaime Dixon could be a candidate by then. He flirted with ASU this season, before getting a raise there and he has West Coast ties and coached at Northern Arizona.

[Cap Ologist]

Glad this means IU won't be stealing HWSNBN.

[miami_fan]

I think this is a good hire. I am not sure if this is a great hire but of course time will tell. Sampson is going to put a very good defensive team on the floor sometimes to the detriment of the offensive end of the court. I am curious to see how well he recruits the state of Indiana. The one of the knocks against Davis was his inabilty to get the top talent from the Hoosier state. I seen Davis supporters say that the top in state talent were directed away from IU by Knight loyalist at the high school level. I think he took OU basketball as far as it was going to go. Here is a part of his resume:

• 8 straight 20-win seasons (only seven other coaches have equal or longer current streaks)
• 26.0-win average over last 5 years
• Has won more Big 12 games than any coach in the conference's history
• 12 consecutive postseason appearances (11 at OU) with 11 NCAA Tournament showings (10 at OU)
• 2001, 2002, 2003 Big 12 Tournament titles
• 5 Big 12 Tournament championship game appearances in last 8 years
• Conference's best Big 12 Tournament record (17-6)
• 147-21 (.875) record at Lloyd Noble Center and 65-5 (.929) mark over last 70 home games
• Big 12 record 37-game home winning streak (2001-03)
• No. 3 final AP ranking in 2002 and 2003
• No. 12 final AP ranking in 2000 and No. 13 in 2001
• 1995 and 2002 national coach of the year
• Coached All-Americans Eduardo Najera (3rd team in 2000) and Hollis Price (1st team in 2003)

[muns]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Pitt's Jaime Dixon could be a candidate by then. He flirted with ASU this season, before getting a raise there and he has West Coast ties and coached at Northern Arizona.

Jamie has West Coast in him and might be looking to move back if a big job Like Arizona opened up but he isnt looking to move any time soon. Dixon made it appear he was flirting with ASU, but he wasnt. He just wanted a raise and used ASU to do it. He was one of the lowest paid coaches in the big east. Also when he was first hired as the head man at Pitt, Pitt asked him not to hire an agent, that changed this year as he hired an agent and guess what the advice was to do

[Balldog]

Originally Posted by cartman

You'll just leave for Maryland after several seasons of not being able to make it past the Sweet Sixteen...but OWNING Texas.

Fixed it for you.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by muns

Jamie has West Coast in him and might be looking to move back if a big job Like Arizona opened up but he isnt looking to move any time soon. Dixon made it appear he was flirting with ASU, but he wasnt. He just wanted a raise and used ASU to do it. He was one of the lowest paid coaches in the big east. Also when he was first hired as the head man at Pitt, Pitt asked him not to hire an agent, that changed this year as he hired an agent and guess what the advice was to do

Yeah... I agree. He was using ASU for negotiating leverage, in my opinion. Still, I think the next time a high proflie Pac 10 job comes open, he will be in the mix.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I'm not so sure about that. The next 2-3 seasons will be critical in that regard - can Gonzaga get over the hump and get to a Final Four or better, and when does Lute decide to step down?

Few seriously considered the Washington job 4 years ago when it was a program in the dumps. Why wouldn't he seriously consider one of the premier jobs in the country at Arizona? I'm not saying it's a sure thing that he'd take the job, but you have to think Arizona would strongly consider him and if so, make a big push to get him. And Few would be dumb not to strongly consider it. He could move on to a program with even higher prestige and give himself a greater chance at a National Championship and at the same time hand over the Gonzaga program to one of his buddies on the staff there.

He was considered the backup to the UCLA job because the admin was unsure if he could handle the pressure at a bigtime job. Replacing a HOF coach like Lute is much harder then following John Wooden 30 years later

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by muns

Jamie has West Coast in him and might be looking to move back if a big job Like Arizona opened up but he isnt looking to move any time soon. Dixon made it appear he was flirting with ASU, but he wasnt. He just wanted a raise and used ASU to do it. He was one of the lowest paid coaches in the big east. Also when he was first hired as the head man at Pitt, Pitt asked him not to hire an agent, that changed this year as he hired an agent and guess what the advice was to do

Jaime Dixon's wife's parents are bigtime SC alums and most of the famil lives out here. If offered the UofA job, I'm sure he wouldnt turn it down. Pitt fans were convinced that Howland wasn't going to leave them either and look at how things turned out.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Cap Ologist

Glad this means IU won't be stealing HWSNBN.

Don't you worry your pretty little head, he'll be gone before you know it...

[Klinglerware]

Originally Posted by vexroid

Johnny93g, nothing more than phone calls IIRC.

Although, Indiana has to be on the lookout for penalties traveling with the coach...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2387372

Originally Posted by ESPN Article

The university self-imposed a two-year probation from July 1, 2005 to July 1, 2007; reduced scholarships from 13 to 11 for 2005-06 and 13 to 12 from 2006-07; reduced the number of phone calls coaches could make to recruits; limited off-campus recruiting from July 2005 through the 2006-07 academic year; cut paid visits down from 12 to nine for this past season; froze Sampson's salary increases and postseason bonuses for a two-year period.

According to NCAA rules, if penalties are imposed by the committee of infractions on a coach that are over and above what the institution already has self-imposed, then the new school (Indiana) would have to impose those penalties or else Sampson would have to appear before the committee and show cause why the school shouldn't be required to do so.

[muns]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Jaime Dixon's wife's parents are bigtime SC alums and most of the famil lives out here. If offered the UofA job, I'm sure he wouldnt turn it down. Pitt fans were convinced that Howland wasn't going to leave them either and look at how things turned out.

Na i disagree with the Howland comment. People that thought they knew what was going on undstood that he would leave for a Cali school no matter what If he got offered one. He had strong ties there and said his dream job would be in CALI. Plus he thought he could turn any program around no matter what. Just look at the schools he coached and there wasnt any reason to think he couldnt. I dont think Jamie would go to USC over Pitt because there is no history what so ever there, plus UCLA will get any kid they want over there from now on. I wouldnt think he would be in the running for the Arizona job. On top of that he is at the helm of a top 15 program that doesnt look to be slowing down any time soon.

As a side note, Barry Rohrssen recruited most of those guys, and I would wonder how Jamie would do without him. Barry has been trying to get a head job this year

[MrBug708]

Top 15? Try the greatest program.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Top 15? Try the greatest program.

You think Pitt is the greatest program?

My opinion of you just plummetted.

[MrBug708]

I thought he was talking about Howland at UCLA.

[muns]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I thought he was talking about Howland at UCLA.

My bad, i should have wrote it a little bit better than i did

[vex]

Crimson & Crean has a nice ring to it...

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Kodos

And hasn't he been investigated for NCAA infractions. WTF?

Well, that didn't take long. Get this clown out of here before he sullies IU's name further...

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IU Discloses New Sanctions on Hoops Staff

By IU Media Relations

Posted Oct 14, 2007

The Indiana University Department of Athletics today announced that a series of recruiting sanctions and corrective actions are being imposed on men’s basketball coach Kelvin Sampson and his staff.

The new limitations on recruiting efforts, which include loss of a scholarship next year, were imposed by Athletics Director Rick Greenspan after he determined that Sampson and his staff last season had exceeded certain NCAA limitations on telephone calls to prospective student-athletes or their representatives.

“We determined that the impermissible calls occurred because some staff members did not fully comply with the sanctions they were operating under,” Greenspan said. “We are addressing that problem, and we are voluntarily extending these limitations on recruiting for another season to ensure that the full effect of NCAA restrictions on recruiting is realized.”

Greenspan also announced that Sampson has voluntarily agreed to forego a scheduled $500,000 raise during the 2007-08 season, and that assistant coach Rob Senderoff will be prohibited for a year from making recruiting phone calls and from recruiting off campus. In addition, Senderoff will receive no bonus this season or salary increase next year.

This summer, the Athletic Department’s routine review of telephone records compiled by assistant coaches turned up evidence suggesting that some calls contrary to the sanctions may have been made.

Greenspan then commissioned the Collegiate Sports Practice of the Indianapolis law firm of Ice Miller to conduct a full and independent investigation.

The review, which took more than two months, determined that on about 10 occasions, an assistant coach initiated three-way calls that connected Sampson into an on-going recruiting conversation with prospective student-athletes, their parents or coaches.

In addition, the review indicated that of all recruiting calls made during the year, the majority of those that were found to be contrary to the sanctions were made by Senderoff. Only two calls were attributed to Sampson.

“Those were just a small fraction of the thousands of allowable phone calls that were made and received during this time,” Greenspan said. “However, Indiana University expects full and complete compliance with all NCAA rules and sanctions. That is why I am imposing a new round of recruiting restrictions and sanctions on Coach Sampson and his staff. I want to send a strong message that nothing less than complete compliance with the NCAA is the standard by which we operate.”

The full Ice Miller investigation report has been provided to the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions for review. Because 35 of the calls by assistant coaches were also determined to be in violation of NCAA limits on the number of times an athlete may be called, a separate report detailing these instances is being prepared for the NCAA’s enforcement staff.

“Based on all of the evidence gathered in our investigation, we have taken the action that we deemed as appropriate and have reported that to the NCAA,” Greenspan said.

[cartman]

My cousin was wondering who kept calling him on Skype with the name 'ICoachU@IU'.

[miami_fan]

So these violations are different than the violations he had at Oklahoma? Wow.

[hoopsguy]

Well, both are illegal phone calls. But different in that he did them for his new team and that the number of violations is double, instead of triple, digits.

But otherwise, same old Samscum.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, both are illegal phone calls. But different in that he did them for his new team and that the number of violations is double, instead of triple, digits.

But otherwise, same old Samscum.

That is what I was getting at. These were calls that were made AFTER he got to IU.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by duckman

Why don't you enlighten me why this is not a good hire?

Shall I enlighten you again?

[Kodos]

To do the exact same thing that you got punished for less than a year after getting put on probation is just unbelievable.

[Swaggs]

The thought I have on this, is how much else must he doing that he is not getting caught for?

I'm guessing there are very few coaches that follow the rules to a "T," but this guy keeps getting caught. Hard to believe he isn't getting away with a good bit--kind of like the guys that speed, while driving, every day and get a ticket once or twice a year. He has to be doing much worse than just toeing the line.