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View Poll Results: Who will grab the NFC #1 seed? (Not who do you WANT to, but who do you think WILL...)
New York Giants (6-2) 30 15.87%
Seattle Seahawks (6-2) 28 14.81%
Atlanta Falcons (6-2) 27 14.29%
Carolina Panthers (6-2) 87 46.03%
Washington Redskins (5-3) 1 0.53%
Dallas Cowboys (5-3) 8 4.23%
Chicago Bears (5-3) 7 3.70%
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-4) 1 0.53%
One of the 4-4 or 3-5 teams (specify which) 0 0%
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:01 PM   #1
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At the halfway point, who do you see as the NFC's #1 Seed.

Most teams have played 8 games now. Who do you see getting the #1 seed? (Poll coming, and also for AFC...)
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:06 PM   #2
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At this point I'd seed them:

1. Panthers
2. Seahawks
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:06 PM   #3
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Cowboys all the way. Second choice would be Seattle because they play in a craphole division.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:07 PM   #4
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Cowboys all the way. Second choice would be Seattle because they play in a craphole division.
Really? I can see Seattle, but why the Cowboys? I can think of...well, just about every other team on this poll...who I think are better than the Cowboys.

EDIT -- Ok, I'll give you the Bears and the Buccs. But anyone else? Sorry.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:09 PM   #5
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I've seen the Bears defense twice this season, and it's damned good.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:09 PM   #6
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Obviously I WANT Atlanta to take the #1 spot, but I voted for the Giants.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:10 PM   #7
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I'd have to say either the Panthers or the Giants with a slight advantage going to the Panthers because of their playoff experience.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:13 PM   #8
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Seattle may play in the NFC West, but they also play each the strongest NFC division this year. So far they are 1-1 against the Redskins and Cowboys with the Giants and Eagles coming up on the schedule (not to mention Indy).

That said, I'd consider them the #2 or #3 seed right now. If they can beat St. Louis this weekend, which would basically equate to winning the division rather than making it a dog fight the rest of the way, I could see them being the #1 or #2 seed in the NFC come the end of the year. Lose this weekend and not only do you reintroduce the Rams into the division hunt, but the Hawks would likely lose their shot at the first round bye, at best hosting a game in the Wildcard round.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:14 PM   #9
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I went for the Seahawks just because they play the Cardinals, 49ers and Rams twice.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:15 PM   #10
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I've seen the Bears defense twice this season, and it's damned good.
But did you pick them as the #1 seed?!? And if so, do you seriously believe that?
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:17 PM   #11
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How can I be the only one that voted for the Bears? They play great defense, and are in the most awful division in the league. I'd say they have as much, or more of a chance to win the NFC than any of the 6-2 teams.

I still hate them though.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:20 PM   #12
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I want to see the Giants.

I picked Seattle.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:20 PM   #13
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But did you pick them as the #1 seed?!? And if so, do you seriously believe that?

Yes I did. I think they have as good a shot as anyone in the conference.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:23 PM   #14
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I would LOVE to be able to honestly say the New York Football Giants, but I have to say Carolina right now with the G-Men being #2.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:26 PM   #15
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I went ahead and picked the Bears as well, but only because I'm a homer.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:27 PM   #16
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How can I be the only one that voted for the Bears? They play great defense, and are in the most awful division in the league. I'd say they have as much, or more of a chance to win the NFC than any of the 6-2 teams.
Start with the fact that they play Carolina, at Tampa Bay, at Pittsburgh, and Atlanta (along with the Packers twice, the Niners, and at Minnesota). And I believe Thomas Jones is banged up. Defense only goes so far...somebody has to put some points on the board.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:30 PM   #17
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Defense only goes so far...somebody has to put some points on the board.

The Bears play in the SEC?
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:32 PM   #18
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Start with the fact that they play Carolina, at Tampa Bay, at Pittsburgh, and Atlanta (along with the Packers twice, the Niners, and at Minnesota). And I believe Thomas Jones is banged up. Defense only goes so far...somebody has to put some points on the board.

They should be able to beat Carolina at home, Atlanta at home (especially since it'll be cold and outdoors), the Packers, Vikings, and 49ers. Even if they lose one of those games, they'd still be 11-5, and I think that would win them the conference. We'll see I guess.

Why in the hell am I defending the Bears anyway? I hope they lose the rest of their games, and the Lions win the divison with a 6-10 record.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:51 PM   #19
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They should be able to beat Carolina at home, Atlanta at home (especially since it'll be cold and outdoors), the Packers, Vikings, and 49ers. Even if they lose one of those games, they'd still be 11-5, and I think that would win them the conference. We'll see I guess.

Carolina @ home=win because of what????
Atlanta beat GB in the playoffs outdoors at Lambeau Field--I don't think that the weather will be a deterrent to a run first team with mutiple running weapons.

The Bears will be right with my Redskins @ 10-6 or 9-7 when all is said and done. The Packer and Vikings are bad teams, but those are division games nonetheless and I can't see them making it as easy as your making it sound like it should.

You also overlooked the Pittsburgh Steelers and TB Buccaneers on the schedule, along with the fact that they have played 2 teams with winning records (Redskins and Bengals), which were both losses. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:57 PM   #20
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Carolina @ home=win because of what????.

Because I don't think Carolina will be able to put up many points against the Bears defense, and the Bears will be able to pound out a win at home. I really think Benson will start taking off, especially with Jones out. I've already seen flashes in the games I've seen. Of course, neither of us knows what will happen.
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:02 PM   #21
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First things first: examining the schedules the rest of the way. Who do they have remaining with records of .500 or better?

GIANTS (6-2)
Eagles (4-4)
at Seahawks (6-2)
Cowboys (5-3)
at Eagles (4-4)
Chiefs (5-3)
at Redskins (5-3)

Fairly rough, and they also have to go to Oakland in Week 17. They can't let up. Still, 4-2 in the games above and 2-0 in the others looks very possible for a 12-4 finish.

SEAHAWKS (6-2)
Rams (4-4)
Giants (6-2)
at Eagles (4-4)
Colts (8-0)

Tough ones at home against NY and Ind, but three bottom-feeders left on the schedule, too. Overall, schedule looks quite favorable for them, plus they already have wins over #1 seed contenders Atlanta and Dallas. Assuming they beat the Rams at home, a home win over the Giants or a road win over the Eagles puts them on course for 12-4. Win both of those (which appear winnable) and they really should finish 13-3.

FALCONS (6-2)
Buccaneers (5-3)
at Panthers (6-2)
at Bears (5-3)
at Bucs (5-3)
Panthers (6-2)

Some favorable breaks between big games, except Weeks 16 & 17 Bucs then Panthers, although and extra day of prep for Carolina at home could be vital. Should win at home over TB, and should be favored at Chicago and TB. The two Carolina games will be the difference-makers, along with reacting to playing on Thanksgiving. Anywhere from 10-6 to 13-3 looks possible, with 11-5 or 12-4 looking to be most likely.

PANTHERS (6-2)
at Bears (5-3)
Falcons (6-2)
Bucs (5-3)
Cowboys (5-3)
at Falcons (6-2)

Very similar schedule to that of the Falcons. Where the two of them stack up will probably come down to the two games between 'em, although Carolina's schedule is slightly more favorable than Atlanta's. They should finish 11-5 at the very worst, but 13-3 or even 14-2 seem possible, especially if playoff seeds are pretty much set by the time they visit Atlanta in week 17. If the division title is still up for grabs then, though, look for a Falcon win.

REDSKINS (5-3)
at Bucs (5-3)
SD (5-4)
at Rams (4-4)
Cowboys (5-3)
Giants (6-2)
at Eagles (4-4)

Some quality teams in there, but not the toughest schedule, either. Of the 5-3 teams, they seem to have the best shot at a run at 11-5/12-4.

COWBOYS (5-3)
at Eagles (4-4)
Broncos (6-2)
at Giants (6-2)
Chiefs (5-3)
at Redskins (5-3)
at Panthers (6-2)
Rams (4-4)

Says here that there's no way they make up a game on four teams and beat out three other teams with whom they're tied with that schedule. They'll be fortunate to go 5-3 in the second half for a 10-6 finish. I see 8-8 or 9-7 being much more likely.

BEARS (5-3)
Panthers (6-2)
at Bucs (5-3)
at Steelers (6-2)
Falcons (6-2)

They've got the Packers twice and the Niners, too. Still, they have to steal two of the four mentioned above to get to 11-5, and I don't see that happening.


So....all that being said:

1. Seattle
2. NFC South Champ (Carolina/Atlanta)
3, NY Giants
4. Da Bears

Wild Card 1: Carolina/Atlanta
Wild Card 2: Redskins
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:23 PM   #24
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:25 PM   #25
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:32 PM   #26
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:10 PM   #27
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I'll vote for Atlanta. I think they win the NFC South, just barely over Carolina. I think the dogfight for the division will make the team that wins out the #1 seed.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:42 PM   #28
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Carolina. Good team, reasonable schedule, and I absolutely do not believe in Seattle.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:53 PM   #29
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:16 PM   #30
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I can see an argument for any of Carolina, New York, Seattle, Atlanta or Dallas. My gut tells me the Giants won't sustain it, and Seattle will get the top seed. Dallas wins the East, and Atlanta/Philly are the Wild Cards. Those are my picks.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:28 PM   #31
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Atlanta and Carolina get to play the NFC North, the AFC East, and New Orleans this year... one of them better have the best record in the NFC this year.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:31 PM   #32
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:52 PM   #33
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Panthers will get the #1 seed while the Giants will lose 8 games in a row.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:48 PM   #34
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Wrong! I chose the Seahawks. I would love to see the Giants and Seahawks meet in the NFC Title Game. I would probably pull for the Hawks as my giants have 2 superbowl titles. Though if they won that would be ok as well.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:58 PM   #35
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[quote=SkyDog]First things first: examining the schedules the rest of the way. Who do they have remaining with records of .500 or better?


COWBOYS (5-3)
at Eagles (4-4)
Broncos (6-2)
at Giants (6-2)
Chiefs (5-3)
at Redskins (5-3)
at Panthers (6-2)
Rams (4-4)

Says here that there's no way they make up a game on four teams and beat out three other teams with whom they're tied with that schedule. They'll be fortunate to go 5-3 in the second half for a 10-6 finish. I see 8-8 or 9-7 being much more likely.

]

Well seeing as how Dallas plays Carolina which will take care of that game to make up quick fast and in a hurry, and the Giants have already lost to us we will hold the tie breaker over them with another win, that leaves the Seahawks and the Falcons. We will need a better record than the Seahawks since we went to sleep in lost to them in 15 seconds. The Falcons will likely be the top seed. Seattle wins the West. Dallas wins the East. Falcons win the South. Bears win the North. Giants and Panthers are wild cards. No way in hell the Redskins or Eagles make the playoffs.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:25 PM   #36
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A lot of people are overlooking the fact that Carolina has a habit of pissing all over themselves and curling up in the fetal position when they play the Falcons.

Sat, Dec 18, 2004CarolinaW (OT) 34-31

Sun, Oct 3, 2004at CarolinaW 27-10

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Sun, Nov 25, 2001at CarolinaW 10-7

Sun, Sep 23, 2001CarolinaW 24-16

Sun, Oct 29, 2000CarolinaW 13-12

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Old 11-10-2005, 07:38 AM   #38
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A lot of people are overlooking the fact that Carolina has a habit of pissing all over themselves and curling up in the fetal position when they play the Falcons.
That's precisely why I didn't make a pick between those two teams. The combined X-factors of which Vick will show up and will Carolina choke again make it too tough to call for me. I can easily envision either team sweeping the other.
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Well seeing as how Dallas plays Carolina which will take care of that game to make up quick fast and in a hurry, and the Giants have already lost to us we will hold the tie breaker over them with another win, that leaves the Seahawks and the Falcons. We will need a better record than the Seahawks since we went to sleep in lost to them in 15 seconds. The Falcons will likely be the top seed. Seattle wins the West. Dallas wins the East. Falcons win the South. Bears win the North. Giants and Panthers are wild cards. No way in hell the Redskins or Eagles make the playoffs.
This scenario seems to take a relative long-shot (Dallas beating Carolina on the road) and treat it like a given.
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Carolina has an awfully big bandwagon for a team that hasn't really done a whole lot. They've lost to the 2-7 Saints & 3-5 Dolphins, they beat the 1-7 Packers by 3 points, the 2-6 Cardinals by 4 points, and needed a last minute TD to beat the 3-5 Lions by 1. They blowout the lousy Vikings and a very overrated Tampa Bay and suddenly they're the '85 Bears reincarnated.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:05 AM   #41
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Carolina impresses me as a team that will play down or up to their competition overall. I can't see them winning at NY, Atl or Seatlle though.
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A lot of people are overlooking the fact that Carolina has a habit of pissing all over themselves and curling up in the fetal position when they play the Falcons.


This is what has me worried as a Panther fan. Carolina's next few games are very winnable, though I am a bit worried about the game at Chicago. My hope is that Carolina is 9-2 the first time they play Atlanta. That should take some of the pressure off the game, though it is very possible that both teams will be 9-2 or 8-3 when they play for the first time and the division will certainly be on the line, but if Carolina can go into that game 9-2 with a playoff birth almost locked up already, hopefully it'll take some of the pressure off.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:30 AM   #43
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Carolina has an awfully big bandwagon for a team that hasn't really done a whole lot. They've lost to the 2-7 Saints & 3-5 Dolphins, they beat the 1-7 Packers by 3 points, the 2-6 Cardinals by 4 points, and needed a last minute TD to beat the 3-5 Lions by 1. They blowout the lousy Vikings and a very overrated Tampa Bay and suddenly they're the '85 Bears reincarnated.
The problem is, you could find this kind of story about just about any of these teams..

no one in the NFC, imo, has beaten all of the teams they "should" and no one has consistently beaten good teams either...
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:48 AM   #44
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Well, the Falcons, at least have only lost to Seattle and New England (NE without Vick). I think they've come closest on beating all the teams they 'should'.
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Well, the Falcons, at least have only lost to Seattle and New England (NE without Vick). I think they've come closest on beating all the teams they 'should'.
At the time of the Seattle loss, it certainly didn't feel that way. Now, that loss isn't looking nearly as ugly as it felt back then.
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Bump. Un-stick. Poll closed. Giants lose at home to Minnesota in Week 10 to put a hurtin' on their chances.
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Seattle will choke and the Falcons will lat least lose to the Lions on Thanksgiving.
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I'm telling you people. Chicago all the way.

Seattle will choke and the Falcons will lat least lose to the Lions on Thanksgiving.
It'll be fun to look back and either talk smack or lament how horrible our thoughts at this point were.
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:57 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by SkyDog
It'll be fun to look back and either talk smack or lament how horrible our thoughts at this point were.

Hehe. True.

Hey, I'll make you a lame "bet". If the Lions lose to the Falcons, I'll change my sig to "Go Falcons!" for one week. If you lose, you have to change yours to "Go Lions" for a week.
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:19 PM   #50
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Is this a 2 horse race after this week? Carolina/Seattle? With a one game edge on the rest of the division and Atlanta/Tampa playing each other next week, Carolina at Chicago is a critical game for the Panthers. Beat the Bears and I think it's time to start talking about bye weeks and home field throughout the playoffs in Carolina.
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