College Football Week 5 thread

cartman · 09-25-2008, 08:53 PM

Oregon State is giving USC fits so far.

TazFTW · 09-25-2008, 08:58 PM

Beat SC!

TazFTW · 09-25-2008, 09:26 PM

DeToxRox · 09-25-2008, 09:27 PM

Wow, it's all going OSU's way early.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 09:28 PM

21-0 at the half. Definitely the shocker of the season so far.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 09:32 PM

I'm in shock.

Wolfpack · 09-25-2008, 09:32 PM

Heh. The afternoon drivetime radio guys (well, one of them, anyway) likes to make predictions on the Thursday night games and last year, he couldn't miss. This year, he hasn't gotten one right yet. He picked USC in tonight's game, of course, and by 30 points at that. Oopsie.

Tigercat · 09-25-2008, 09:33 PM

When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach?

He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are.

DeToxRox · 09-25-2008, 09:35 PM

Carroll is still a great defensive coach, but tonight the D looks pathetic.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat

When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach?

He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are.

Carroll is an excellent in game coach who has a history of being one of the best at making 2nd half adjustments. Look at the point differential in the 2nd half of USC over the last 7 years and it tells the story convincingly.

CU Tiger · 09-25-2008, 09:44 PM

Well OSU has covered 9 straight against USC.
The OSU +26 seemed too easy...I only hope it continues and if so tomorrow will be 2 paydays in one....

Tigercat · 09-25-2008, 09:46 PM

I don't know. Unlike most LSU fans, I have no axe to grind with USC. But USC should crush everyone in the Pac-10 year in and year out with the talent they have. I mean really, the talent level going into USC and Oregon State isn't close. It is several galaxies away from close. There is no excuse to be losing by 21 to this team at half, there is no excuse for being within a mile of Stanford. No excuse losing to UCLA in 2006, ect ect ect. (And when I say no excuse, to put it in another two teams terms, USC losing to most Pac-10 teams is equivelent to Florida losing to UCF.)

The deficit I see with USC coaching is that they neither seem to motivate consistently nor do their players ever play with a great amount of discipline. If you want to instill a team identity beyond having a roster full of super athletes, you need to do one or the other well. (Or preferably a combination of both.)

cartman · 09-25-2008, 09:50 PM

might want to do an edit there, 'cat.

mckerney · 09-25-2008, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat

When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach?

He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are.

Bill Simmons wrote that he was a subpar coach after USC lost to Texas, noting something to the effect that everything he did wrong as a head coach in the NFL he still seemed to still do in college, he just made up for it with much better players. Other than that I haven't seen anyone else say something similar.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 09:53 PM

I'm surprised they have Erin Andrews covering a Beavers game.

VPI97 · 09-25-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Look at the point differential in the 2nd half of USC over the last 7 years and it tells the story convincingly.

I'm not arguing whether he's a great game day coach or not, but I've always felt that the second half/late game strength of 'elite' teams is just as much due to depth of talent as it is to coaching adjustments. I look to VT games like our '96 Orange Bowl vs Nebraska (14-17 at the half; 21-41 loss at the end) and the '99 title game vs FSU (29-28 VT after three; 29-46 loss at the end) to illustrate that point.

Vegas Vic · 09-25-2008, 10:02 PM

Get ready, boys. Here it comes.

Tigercat · 09-25-2008, 10:03 PM

OSU needs to score at least 14 more to win this one.

Karlifornia · 09-25-2008, 10:06 PM

Come on, SC....

kingnebwsu · 09-25-2008, 10:06 PM

Here we go...for USC that is

Vegas Vic · 09-25-2008, 10:19 PM

Stick a fork in Oregon State. They're done. It was exciting for a while, though.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 10:19 PM

Could be just their depth, but this looks like some good adjustments by the coaching staff to me.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 10:40 PM

If Oregon State can score on this drive and make it a two score game, the new clock rules will make it really difficult for USC to come back. This is a huge drive coming up.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 10:44 PM

Huge stop.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 10:49 PM

3 and out by USC deep in their own territory

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 10:57 PM

*lets out a long breath* backup kicker FTW!

Vegas Vic · 09-25-2008, 10:58 PM

No points on that drive by OSU. That was a backbreaker.

Tigercat · 09-25-2008, 11:00 PM

Don't let it bug you Sanchez, I hit the thumbstick on the road on accident all the time.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:03 PM

another 3 and out by USC. OSU can ice the game on this next possession.

dawgfan · 09-25-2008, 11:06 PM

Oregon State is a very well-coached team, and they have a history of starting slow but then picking up steam as the year progresses under Riley. Seeing them threaten to upset USC is not a surprise at all - Riley's done it before, and even considering this may be a down year in the Pac-10, it's still very, very hard to run the table in-conference.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 11:12 PM

Time for McKnight to redeem himself.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:13 PM

USC has a LONG way to go

JonInMiddleGA · 09-25-2008, 11:13 PM

Ugliest pair of good punts I can recall seeing in quite a while.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-25-2008, 11:14 PM

Oops.

Karlifornia · 09-25-2008, 11:14 PM

HOLYSHIT! INT!!!!!!!!

DeToxRox · 09-25-2008, 11:14 PM

Get security ready!

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:14 PM

Ball game! OSU is gonna win!

miami_fan · 09-25-2008, 11:15 PM

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 11:15 PM

Congrats to any Oregon State fans on the board. Great gameplan by Riley and his staff and Jacquizz Rodgers was incredible tonight.

miami_fan · 09-25-2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Get security ready!

Should be some good beatdowns by security tonight

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:16 PM

Touchdown Oregon State.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Stick a fork in Oregon State. They're done. It was exciting for a while, though.

Yep. Too bad.

DeToxRox · 09-25-2008, 11:20 PM

OSU scoring was so stupid. They should've taken a few knees before trying to score.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:21 PM

Well, that makes things interesting. It comes down to the onsides now.

Vegas Vic · 09-25-2008, 11:21 PM

It ain't over yet.

DeToxRox · 09-25-2008, 11:21 PM

And just like that this isn't over.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-25-2008, 11:22 PM

Please...

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:23 PM

Now it is ballgame

TargetPractice6 · 09-25-2008, 11:23 PM

I wanted USC to recover that just to spite the OSU fans.

cartman · 09-25-2008, 11:26 PM

Does this portend another Upset Saturday?

09-25-2008, 08:58 PM	#2
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Beat SC! __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

09-25-2008, 09:26 PM	#3
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Wow. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

09-25-2008, 09:28 PM	#5
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	21-0 at the half. Definitely the shocker of the season so far. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 09:32 PM	#6
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'm in shock. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-25-2008, 09:33 PM	#8
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	When is Pete Carroll going to be called out as possibly being a subpar coach? He is a terrific program recruiter, maybe the best of all time. But his teams to often look like a collection of athletes not coached up close to their fullest potential. Maybe Carroll would find it more difficult being the greatest recruiter of all time if the media started calling his coaching abilities as they are. Last edited by Tigercat : 09-25-2008 at 09:34 PM.

09-25-2008, 09:27 PM	#4
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Wow, it's all going OSU's way early.

09-25-2008, 09:32 PM	#7
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Heh. The afternoon drivetime radio guys (well, one of them, anyway) likes to make predictions on the Thursday night games and last year, he couldn't miss. This year, he hasn't gotten one right yet. He picked USC in tonight's game, of course, and by 30 points at that. Oopsie.

09-25-2008, 09:35 PM	#9
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Carroll is still a great defensive coach, but tonight the D looks pathetic.

09-25-2008, 09:44 PM	#11
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Well OSU has covered 9 straight against USC. The OSU +26 seemed too easy...I only hope it continues and if so tomorrow will be 2 paydays in one....

09-25-2008, 09:46 PM	#12
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	I don't know. Unlike most LSU fans, I have no axe to grind with USC. But USC should crush everyone in the Pac-10 year in and year out with the talent they have. I mean really, the talent level going into USC and Oregon State isn't close. It is several galaxies away from close. There is no excuse to be losing by 21 to this team at half, there is no excuse for being within a mile of Stanford. No excuse losing to UCLA in 2006, ect ect ect. (And when I say no excuse, to put it in another two teams terms, USC losing to most Pac-10 teams is equivelent to Florida losing to UCF.) The deficit I see with USC coaching is that they neither seem to motivate consistently nor do their players ever play with a great amount of discipline. If you want to instill a team identity beyond having a roster full of super athletes, you need to do one or the other well. (Or preferably a combination of both.) Last edited by Tigercat : 09-25-2008 at 09:52 PM. Reason: lol, I don't think the Beaves should crush the pac-10

09-25-2008, 09:50 PM	#13
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	might want to do an edit there, 'cat. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 09:53 PM	#15
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I'm surprised they have Erin Andrews covering a Beavers game. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 10:02 PM	#17
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	Get ready, boys. Here it comes.

09-25-2008, 10:03 PM	#18
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	OSU needs to score at least 14 more to win this one.

09-25-2008, 10:06 PM	#19
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Come on, SC.... __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-25-2008, 10:06 PM	#20
kingnebwsu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	Here we go...for USC that is

09-25-2008, 10:19 PM	#21
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	Stick a fork in Oregon State. They're done. It was exciting for a while, though.

09-25-2008, 10:40 PM	#23
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	If Oregon State can score on this drive and make it a two score game, the new clock rules will make it really difficult for USC to come back. This is a huge drive coming up. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 10:44 PM	#24
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Huge stop. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-25-2008, 10:49 PM	#25
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	3 and out by USC deep in their own territory __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 10:57 PM	#26
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	lets out a long breath backup kicker FTW! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-25-2008, 10:58 PM	#27
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	No points on that drive by OSU. That was a backbreaker.

09-25-2008, 11:00 PM	#28
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Don't let it bug you Sanchez, I hit the thumbstick on the road on accident all the time.

09-25-2008, 11:03 PM	#29
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	another 3 and out by USC. OSU can ice the game on this next possession. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 11:06 PM	#30
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Oregon State is a very well-coached team, and they have a history of starting slow but then picking up steam as the year progresses under Riley. Seeing them threaten to upset USC is not a surprise at all - Riley's done it before, and even considering this may be a down year in the Pac-10, it's still very, very hard to run the table in-conference.

09-25-2008, 11:12 PM	#31
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Time for McKnight to redeem himself. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-25-2008, 11:13 PM	#32
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	USC has a LONG way to go __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 11:13 PM	#33
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Ugliest pair of good punts I can recall seeing in quite a while. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-25-2008, 11:14 PM	#34
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Oops. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-25-2008, 11:14 PM	#35
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	HOLYSHIT! INT!!!!!!!! __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-25-2008, 11:14 PM	#37
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Ball game! OSU is gonna win! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 11:15 PM	#38
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Wow __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

09-25-2008, 11:16 PM	#41
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Touchdown Oregon State. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-25-2008, 11:20 PM	#43
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	OSU scoring was so stupid. They should've taken a few knees before trying to score.

09-25-2008, 11:21 PM	#44
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Well, that makes things interesting. It comes down to the onsides now. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint