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Old 12-05-2006, 05:35 AM   #1
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Prison is just too hard.

That is what this guy thinks.

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Teen Murderer Says Jail Is Too Hard, Appeals Sentence

POSTED: 12:20 pm EST December 4, 2006
UPDATED: 2:37 pm EST December 4, 2006

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- One of the teenagers responsible for beating a Holly Hill homeless man to death asked a judge to reduce his 22-year prison sentence Monday. Warren Messner and three other teens pled guilty to killing the man because they were bored, but Messner said prison is too hard.

Messner is a big boy. He was 15 at the time he was brought into the woods to see the homeless man his friends had been beating. Even at that young age, he outweighed the victim, Michael Roberts, by 200 pounds when he jumped on his chest, crushing his ribcage. Roberts died.

"Did you feel bad when you are doing it?" Messner was asked during questioning.

"Not really, no," he replied.

He didn't feel bad then, but he does now. He has been in juvenile detention for eight months, locked in a small cell and occasionally allowed to go to class.

Messner and his attorney said he has already learned his lesson and is ready to go home to help others.

"I want to be an inspirational speaker for troubled teens," he said Monday.

Messner got the lightest sentence of the four boys. Teens Jeffrey Spurgeon, Justin Stearns and Christopher Scamahorn got 27 to 35 years. They all cut plea deals to avoid life in prison.

The state attorney said that's as much leniency as they should get and the judge agreed.

"I can't think of some reason to change the sentence. I'm going to deny the motion," said the Hon. Joseph Will.

Messner's parents broke down at the denial. His mother said it's unfair, that her son fell in with a bad crowd and prison is killing him.

"He's not getting the mental health, the schooling. He's not getting anything, anything but locked in a cell all day long," Lori Messner said.

The judge and the state both argued that being deprived services and being locked away is precisely the point of prison. Warren Messner will spend the next 22 years in prison without the chance for parole.

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Gotta love the last paragraph. That kinda really is the point of prison.

What shocks me is how this even got to a judge.

Well, I guess you did say you've learned your lesson. Let's just let you go then. Head on home Warren. Don't kill anybody else. Good luck on the inspirational speaking thing.

Yep, that's gonna work. I would have loved to see the look on the judge's face when he got this case.
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:45 AM   #2
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Personally I think they should be shot
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:48 AM   #3
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Just wait until he's an adult and he has someone ass fucking him every day.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:36 AM   #4
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I don't think he should be let out, and I'm a bit surprised that the sentence was only 22 years. At that age I certainly knew right from wrong, no matter what the peer pressure.

However, this concerns me:

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He has been in juvenile detention for eight months, locked in a small cell and occasionally allowed to go to class.

Here's the problem. Assuming he serves his entire sentence, he'll be only 37 when he gets out of prison. If he doesn't receive any schooling and rehabilitation between now and then, can you imagine what he's going to be like when he gets out? I know I wouldn't want to live in the community into which he gets released.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:50 AM   #5
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he can go work at Dunder Mifflin
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:50 AM   #6
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If you went to class 4-5 hours a day and spent the rest of the time in a cell then I would call it occasionally going to class too.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:06 AM   #7
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If you went to class 4-5 hours a day and spent the rest of the time in a cell then I would call it occasionally going to class too.

Ah, OK, that's not how I read it initially, but after re-reading the article, I think you're right. I take back what I wrote, now.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:13 AM   #8
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I am amazed at how the parents are defending him. I would expect them to be upset but with parents like that the kid probably had no discipline growing up and that is probably the reason he ended up the way he is.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:44 AM   #9
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I don't care what kind of people you get mixed up with, and how bad your parents were. If you actually kill someone for fun, you're just a piece of garbage and a waste and you deserve to be treated as such.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:58 AM   #10
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throw away the key
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:07 PM   #11
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The judge should have showed the stupid kid a picture of the homeless man's tombstone and just said, "Being dead sucks worse." Request denied.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:25 PM   #12
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Personally, I think they should let him go.....



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