FOFC Sportsman of the Year

oykib · 01-04-2005, 07:40 AM

So who, in your opinion, was the athlete or coach of 2004?

Let's set up a poll. First ten people to be nominated, seconded, and thirded make it into a poll.

Each poster can nominate one figure and either second or third another. So that's two votes per person.

I'll go ahead, myself, and nominate Barry Bonds, who-- even if he was taking something other than his Flintstone chewables last year-- was so far beyod anything I thought I'd ever see as a baseball fan that I have to put him here.

Btw, I'll try to keep a running count of the nominations. Please bold nominations, italicize seconds, and underline thirds.

In(don't vote for them anymore)

1. Roger Federer
2. Peyton Manning
3. Curt Schilling
4. Barry Bonds
5. Michael Phelps
6. Lance Armstrong
7. Michael Schumacher
8. Martin St. Louis
9. Vijay Singh
10. Pat Tillman

Nominations

1. Barry Bonds
2. Roger Federer
3. Ronaldinho
4. Curt Schilling
5. Peyton Manning
6. Vijay Singh
7. Arjen Robben
8. Lance Armstrong
9. Kelley Holmes
10. Michael Phelps
11. Mia Hamm
12. Pat Tillman
13. Diana Taurasi
14. LeBron James
15. Ron Artest
16. Martin St. Louis
17. Adam Vinatieri
18. Michael Schumacher
19. Bernard Hopkins
20. David Ortiz
21. Maria Sharapova
21. Sebastien Bordais

BreizhManu · 01-04-2005, 08:00 AM

1.Roger Federer (3 Grand Slams)

others considered : Michael Phelps (8 medals), Lance Armstrong (6 tours), Valentino Rossi (winning on a Yamaha)

tanglewood · 01-04-2005, 08:01 AM

Nominated: Ronaldinho

Seconded: Roger Federer

SirFozzie · 01-04-2005, 08:01 AM

Curt Schilling Redefined guts. And was a major proponent in ending the so-called curse.

SECONDED: Barry Bonds Big during baseball season. Big during the off-season (for different reasons, although some would disagree. Figure of the year. note, I do not say sportsman of the year.

Raiders Army · 01-04-2005, 08:06 AM

Vijay Singh. I hate golf, but...this guy knocked Woods off the top.

Peyton Manning. Broke Marino's record.

MizzouRah · 01-04-2005, 08:06 AM

Peyton Manning for breaking Dan Marino's TD record of 20 years. I hope the Colts goto the Super Bowl.

Todd

MIJB#19 · 01-04-2005, 08:20 AM

Nomination: Arjen Robben
Thirded: Roger Federer

oykib · 01-04-2005, 08:20 AM

Raider's Army, you only get two votes. So I'll take Vijay Singh as your nomination and second Peyton Manning.

albionmoonlight · 01-04-2005, 08:34 AM

Nominate: Lance Armstrong
Third Peyton Manning

tanglewood · 01-04-2005, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib

FOFC Sportsman of the Year

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Vijay Singh

MizzouRah · 01-04-2005, 09:38 AM

I second Lance Armstrong.

Todd

MIJB#19 · 01-04-2005, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sachmo71

Vote for Peyton Manning

First 10 with 3 votes make the poll, Manning has clinch a spot already.

sachmo71 · 01-04-2005, 09:41 AM

Vote for Peyton Manning

FBPro · 01-04-2005, 09:53 AM

Peyton Manning

andy m · 01-04-2005, 09:58 AM

nominate Kelly Holmes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olym...cs/3605460.stm

oykib · 01-04-2005, 09:59 AM

I'm suprised that there's been no Michael Schumacher or Bill Belichick yet. Not quite as suprising, although still somewhat suprising, is the lack of Olympians nominated in an Olympic year.

I guess I typed too fast, or not fast enough.

Radii · 01-04-2005, 10:01 AM

nominate Michael Phelps

second Curt Schilling

spleen1015 · 01-04-2005, 10:02 AM

I would like to nominate Kobe Bryant. He accomplished much in 2004.

1. Beat a rape conviction
2. Beat a divorce
3. Successfully got rid of arguably the best coach in NBA history
4. Successfully got rid of arguably the most dominating player in the NBA
5. Singlehandedly dethroned the Laker franchise for the time being

My real nomination goes to Curt Schilling.

Swaggs · 01-04-2005, 10:03 AM

Mia Hamm

Barry Bonds

scooter · 01-04-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Mia Hamm

I was just thinking that it would only be fair to also have a "Sportswoman of the Year" thread started as well. I'd second Mia Hamm in that thread (not so much for her accomplishments this year, but for what she's done for woman's athletics over her career).

spleen1015 · 01-04-2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

nominate Michael Phelps

I second

oykib · 01-04-2005, 10:16 AM

I don't know, scooter. Steffi Graf in her heyday or Annika Sorenstam today'd have a decent shot to make the top ten, at least.

Hell, take this poll a year ago and Serena Williams woud've been a lock.

I can think of a lot of female Olympians over the years that would've made the cut, as well. Florence Griffith-Joyner or Jackie Joyner-Kersee were very accomplished and popular in very recent history-- Gail Deevers almost as much.

In a year or two Michelle Wie'd probably merit strong consideration. I think we measure athlete's against the competition in their own sports and against history. I don't think people considered Mia Hamm and then threw her out because they thought Ronaldinho would blow her off the pitch.

I see no need to seperate them. Plus, I doubt you'd generate much interest in that kind of poll. Maybe you would if you extended it for a decade's worth of time.

Maple Leafs · 01-04-2005, 10:20 AM

Pat Tillman.

gstelmack · 01-04-2005, 10:29 AM

I'll third Lance Armstrong and second Mia Hamm.I'll nominate Adam Vinatieri for having defined "clutch Kicker".

brimick79 · 01-04-2005, 10:36 AM

nominate Diana Taurasi

led Uconn to it's third straight national championship
wnba rookie of the year
won a gold medal

I'll third Micheal Phelps

mckerney · 01-04-2005, 10:50 AM

Nominated: LeBron James

Also considered Johan Santana for his stretch towards the second half of the season that rivaled one of the greatest in modern day baseball.

Cringer · 01-04-2005, 10:51 AM

oykib · 01-04-2005, 10:52 AM

Brimrick79, Michael Phelps is only seconded, unless I've missed something.

Gstelmack, You can only second or third someone. So I'll take mia Hamm, since you listed her first.

oykib · 01-04-2005, 10:54 AM

Apparantly I did miss spleen1015's post, Brimrick. Sorry.

scooter · 01-04-2005, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib

I don't know, scooter. Steffi Graf in her heyday or Annika Sorenstam today'd have a decent shot to make the top ten, at least.

Hell, take this poll a year ago and Serena Williams woud've been a lock.

I can think of a lot of female Olympians over the years that would've made the cut, as well. Florence Griffith-Joyner or Jackie Joyner-Kersee were very accomplished and popular in very recent history-- Gail Deevers almost as much.

In a year or two Michelle Wie'd probably merit strong consideration. I think we measure athlete's against the competition in their own sports and against history. I don't think people considered Mia Hamm and then threw her out because they thought Ronaldinho would blow her off the pitch.

I see no need to seperate them. Plus, I doubt you'd generate much interest in that kind of poll. Maybe you would if you extended it for a decade's worth of time.

I didn't mean that she didn't belong in a list of the top Sports"person" of 2004, only that she didn't belong in a list of the top Sports"man" of 2004. I think if you are including women in this, then the title of the thread should be changed to reflect that - it's the right thing to do

Glengoyne · 01-04-2005, 11:15 AM

Armstrong absolutely. That's a Third I believe.

EDIT Ooops OK it's a fourth. Carry on.

oykib · 01-04-2005, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Armstrong absolutely. That's a Third I believe.

Caught it. The "In" list has been updated. Only four spots left.

vtbub · 01-04-2005, 11:21 AM

Schilling would be my choice

I'd nominate Martin St. Louis

oykib · 01-04-2005, 11:29 AM

Well, I'm off to bed. It's 2:40 here in Akashi. I trust you can keep track until I wake up.

MrBug708 · 01-04-2005, 01:54 PM

Vijah
Pat Tillman

gstelmack · 01-04-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib

Gstelmack, You can only second or third someone. So I'll take mia Hamm, since you listed her first.

That's fine, since someone else hit the Third on Lance Armstrong. But that would mean my nomination of Adam Vinatieri would still hold up...

Ragone · 01-04-2005, 07:25 PM

I nominate: Micheal Schumacher

His Dominance of the f1 circuit is unreal.. and his charity/humantarian efforts really are second to none.. check out his donation to the tsunami effort as a example

hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051

I second:Martin St. Louis

oykib · 01-04-2005, 07:32 PM

I second Michael Schumacher.

ISiddiqui · 01-04-2005, 07:34 PM

David Ortiz, and I'm not even a Red Sox fan

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JonInMiddleGA · 01-04-2005, 07:35 PM

My nominee is already in there, but I'll third
Vijay Singh

Crapshoot · 01-04-2005, 07:37 PM

Im a McLaren fan, but Schumacher is amazing. I'll third him and Bonds.

sabotai · 01-04-2005, 08:08 PM

I'll third Martin St. Louis

And I'll nominate Bernard Hopkins for being the first boxer to knock out Oscar De La Hoya (probably the boxing match last year with the highest appeal to the casual fan).

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 01-04-2005, 09:58 PM

although not a big F1 Fan I vote for Shcummi too.

Buccaneer · 01-04-2005, 10:00 PM

Got to get Vijay on the list.

ISiddiqui · 01-04-2005, 11:38 PM

Ooops, I didn't bold my nomination before:

David Ortiz

Suicane75 · 01-04-2005, 11:40 PM

Maria Sharapova. And no, not because of her looks.

TLK · 01-05-2005, 12:01 AM

I nominate Sebastien Bourdais, for his dominance of the ChampCar series.

The F-1 love here surprises me.... in a good way.

Darkiller · 01-05-2005, 05:09 AM

We're the Front Office FOOTBALL forum so I'll nominate a FOOTBALL player : Peyton Manning is undoubtely the best in the business this season.

BreizhManu · 01-05-2005, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLionKing

I nominate Sebastien Bourdais, for his dominance of the ChampCar series.

saw Bourdais once at Barcelona 3 years ago in F3000, he led the race from the first lap till the last lap and then he crashed just in front of me (nothing serious he was able to finish the race in 3rd position). I had fun

Breeze · 01-05-2005, 05:48 AM

Pat Tilman

01-04-2005, 08:01 AM	#4
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Curt Schilling Redefined guts. And was a major proponent in ending the so-called curse. SECONDED: Barry Bonds Big during baseball season. Big during the off-season (for different reasons, although some would disagree. Figure of the year. note, I do not say sportsman of the year. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

01-04-2005, 08:06 AM	#5
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Vijay Singh. I hate golf, but...this guy knocked Woods off the top. Peyton Manning. Broke Marino's record. Last edited by Raiders Army : 01-04-2005 at 08:22 AM.

01-04-2005, 08:20 AM	#7
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Nomination: Arjen Robben Thirded: Roger Federer __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

01-04-2005, 09:53 AM	#14
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	Peyton Manning __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

01-04-2005, 09:58 AM	#15
andy m High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: norwich, UK	nominate Kelly Holmes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olym...cs/3605460.stm __________________ mostly harmless FOFL 2009 champs - Norwich Quagmire

01-04-2005, 08:00 AM	#2
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	1.Roger Federer (3 Grand Slams) others considered : Michael Phelps (8 medals), Lance Armstrong (6 tours), Valentino Rossi (winning on a Yamaha)

01-04-2005, 08:01 AM	#3
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Nominated: Ronaldinho Seconded: Roger Federer

01-04-2005, 08:06 AM	#6
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Peyton Manning for breaking Dan Marino's TD record of 20 years. I hope the Colts goto the Super Bowl. Todd

01-04-2005, 08:20 AM	#8
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Raider's Army, you only get two votes. So I'll take Vijay Singh as your nomination and second Peyton Manning.

01-04-2005, 08:34 AM	#9
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Nominate: Lance Armstrong Third Peyton Manning

01-04-2005, 09:38 AM	#11
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I second Lance Armstrong. Todd

01-04-2005, 09:41 AM	#13
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Vote for Peyton Manning

01-04-2005, 09:59 AM	#16
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm suprised that there's been no Michael Schumacher or Bill Belichick yet. Not quite as suprising, although still somewhat suprising, is the lack of Olympians nominated in an Olympic year. I guess I typed too fast, or not fast enough. Last edited by oykib : 01-04-2005 at 10:00 AM.

01-04-2005, 10:01 AM	#17
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	nominate Michael Phelps second Curt Schilling

01-04-2005, 10:02 AM	#18
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I would like to nominate Kobe Bryant. He accomplished much in 2004. 1. Beat a rape conviction 2. Beat a divorce 3. Successfully got rid of arguably the best coach in NBA history 4. Successfully got rid of arguably the most dominating player in the NBA 5. Singlehandedly dethroned the Laker franchise for the time being My real nomination goes to Curt Schilling. Last edited by spleen1015 : 01-04-2005 at 10:02 AM.

01-04-2005, 10:03 AM	#19
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Mia Hamm Barry Bonds __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-04-2005, 10:16 AM	#22
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't know, scooter. Steffi Graf in her heyday or Annika Sorenstam today'd have a decent shot to make the top ten, at least. Hell, take this poll a year ago and Serena Williams woud've been a lock. I can think of a lot of female Olympians over the years that would've made the cut, as well. Florence Griffith-Joyner or Jackie Joyner-Kersee were very accomplished and popular in very recent history-- Gail Deevers almost as much. In a year or two Michelle Wie'd probably merit strong consideration. I think we measure athlete's against the competition in their own sports and against history. I don't think people considered Mia Hamm and then threw her out because they thought Ronaldinho would blow her off the pitch. I see no need to seperate them. Plus, I doubt you'd generate much interest in that kind of poll. Maybe you would if you extended it for a decade's worth of time.

01-04-2005, 10:20 AM	#23
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Pat Tillman. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis Last edited by Maple Leafs : 01-04-2005 at 09:59 PM.

01-04-2005, 10:29 AM	#24
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I'll third Lance Armstrong and second Mia Hamm.I'll nominate Adam Vinatieri for having defined "clutch Kicker". __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities Last edited by gstelmack : 01-04-2005 at 10:30 AM.

01-04-2005, 10:36 AM	#25
brimick79 Banned Join Date: Jul 2002	nominate Diana Taurasi led Uconn to it's third straight national championship wnba rookie of the year won a gold medal I'll third Micheal Phelps Last edited by brimick79 : 01-04-2005 at 10:37 AM.

01-04-2005, 10:50 AM	#26
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Nominated: LeBron James Also considered Johan Santana for his stretch towards the second half of the season that rivaled one of the greatest in modern day baseball. Last edited by mckerney : 01-04-2005 at 10:52 AM.

01-04-2005, 10:51 AM	#27
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	__________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

01-04-2005, 10:52 AM	#28
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Brimrick79, Michael Phelps is only seconded, unless I've missed something. Gstelmack, You can only second or third someone. So I'll take mia Hamm, since you listed her first.

01-04-2005, 10:54 AM	#29
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Apparantly I did miss spleen1015's post, Brimrick. Sorry.

01-04-2005, 11:15 AM	#31
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Armstrong absolutely. That's a Third I believe. EDIT Ooops OK it's a fourth. Carry on. Last edited by Glengoyne : 01-04-2005 at 11:18 AM.

01-04-2005, 11:21 AM	#33
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Schilling would be my choice I'd nominate Martin St. Louis __________________

01-04-2005, 11:29 AM	#34
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, I'm off to bed. It's 2:40 here in Akashi. I trust you can keep track until I wake up.

01-04-2005, 01:54 PM	#35
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Vijah Pat Tillman

01-04-2005, 07:25 PM	#37
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	I nominate: Micheal Schumacher His Dominance of the f1 circuit is unreal.. and his charity/humantarian efforts really are second to none.. check out his donation to the tsunami effort as a example hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1959051 I second:Martin St. Louis

01-04-2005, 07:32 PM	#38
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I second Michael Schumacher.

01-04-2005, 07:34 PM	#39
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	David Ortiz, and I'm not even a Red Sox fan . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-04-2005, 07:35 PM	#40
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	My nominee is already in there, but I'll third Vijay Singh __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 01-04-2005 at 07:35 PM.

01-04-2005, 07:37 PM	#41
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Im a McLaren fan, but Schumacher is amazing. I'll third him and Bonds.

01-04-2005, 08:08 PM	#42
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I'll third Martin St. Louis And I'll nominate Bernard Hopkins for being the first boxer to knock out Oscar De La Hoya (probably the boxing match last year with the highest appeal to the casual fan). Last edited by sabotai : 01-04-2005 at 08:08 PM.

01-04-2005, 09:58 PM	#43
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	although not a big F1 Fan I vote for Shcummi too. __________________ Toujour Pret