Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-13-2008, 07:49 AM

Hadn't seen this mentioned yet. The first trailer for the new Indiana Jones movie will debut tomorrow morning (February 14th) between 8:00 and 9:00 AM during Good Morning American on ABC. For those unable to watch it then, it will be posted shortly thereafter on the Indiana Jones website..........

http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 09:28 AM

Thanks for the info. I grew up with the Indiana Jones movies, I just hope this one doesn't suck. I mean, c'mon - Indy is only like 65 years old now, right?

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Thanks for the info. I grew up with the Indiana Jones movies, I just hope this one doesn't suck. I mean, c'mon - Indy is only like 65 years old now, right?

It took forever for everyone to a agree on the script, and Speilberg and Lucas don't exactly do movies soley for the money, so I HIGHLY doubt that it will suck.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

It took forever for everyone to a agree on the script, and Speilberg and Lucas don't exactly do movies soley for the money, so I HIGHLY doubt that it will suck.

I don't think it will suck either, I am just concerned that Ford's age will hinder much of what Indy has done in prior movies. Spielberg generally makes excellent movies, and George Lucas is a genius. With that being said, Ford IS in his 60's. It may be kinda odd seeing him perform the stunts his character became famous for. I am hoping for the best.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

It took forever for everyone to a agree on the script, and Speilberg and Lucas don't exactly do movies soley for the money, so I HIGHLY doubt that it will suck.

Uh, were you not aware that Lucas made three prequels to his Star Wars movies solely for money and all of them sucked?

If not, words cannot express how much I envy your ignorance.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I don't think it will suck either, I am just concerned that Ford's age will hinder much of what Indy has done in prior movies. Spielberg generally makes excellent movies, and George Lucas is a genius. With that being said, Ford IS in his 60's. It may be kinda odd seeing him perform the stunts his character became famous for. I am hoping for the best.

So, I take it you, too, missed the whole prequel thing. God, I wish I could live under the same rock as you guys...

ISiddiqui · 02-13-2008, 09:51 AM

I liked Episode III

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 09:59 AM

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So, I take it you, too, missed the whole prequel thing. God, I wish I could live under the same rock as you guys...

What was wrong with the Star Wars prequels? It is a matter of opinion I guess, but I rather enjoyed episodes II & III. The first one needed some work. Anything with Natalie Portman (as an adult) is decent IMHO. I watched the prequels again just to look at her. No, seriously. I did. Numerous times.

Kodos · 02-13-2008, 10:10 AM

I am a huge Portman fan, so I can say this with conviction: Episode III, the only watchable one, would be significantly better if every scene that she appeared in was removed.

Malificent · 02-13-2008, 10:12 AM

Strangely enough, I much prefer the first prequel over either of the other two and I wish I could wipe Episode III from my memory.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I am a huge Portman fan, so I can say this with conviction: Episode III, the only watchable one, would be significantly better if every scene that she appeared in was removed.

That is true. Her role in the 3rd one especially was suspect in the least. With that being said, they should have just rated the movie "R" and had every scene with her naked.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Malificent

Strangely enough, I much prefer the first prequel over either of the other two and I wish I could wipe Episode III from my memory.

That is rather strange. In an indirect way, you are saying that you enjoyed Jar Jar Binks over Yoda doing backflips and jumping around a room with a lightsaber.

Dr. Sak · 02-13-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

That is rather strange. In an indirect way, you are saying that you enjoyed Jar Jar Binks over Yoda doing backflips and jumping around a room with a lightsaber.

Either that or he prefers 7 year old Anakin to a grown up one...you be the judge....

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Uh, were you not aware that Lucas made three prequels to his Star Wars movies solely for money and all of them sucked?

If not, words cannot express how much I envy your ignorance.

He also directed them. Did you forget that in your own ignorance?

Spielberg is directing this one, and it will be fine.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 10:28 AM

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Either that or he prefers 7 year old Anakin to a grown up one...you be the judge....

That should be left up to the courts.

Buccaneer · 02-13-2008, 10:36 AM

The Star Wars prequels not sucking?!?!?! There is someone actually believe that????

As far as IJ, Raiders in my top 3 all time favorite. Crusade watch very watchable and fun. Doom was one of the worst movies of all time. It would be interesting to see where Skull comes in. My guess it would be like Crusade.

One of the reasons Lucas rejected previous scripts was that he felt it did not have enough action. That signifies a SW prequels mindset where it was all action and the dialog/story was hideously bad. Maybe Speilberg had changed that.

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

As far as IJ, Raiders in my top 3 all time favorite. Crusade watch very watchable and fun. Doom was one of the worst movies of all time. It would be interesting to see where Skull comes in. My guess it would be like Crusade.

I agree that 1 and 3 were easily the best, but to say that 2 was "one of the worst movies of all time" is (excuse this) fucking idiotic. Either A) You are using hyperbole, or B) You have seen like 10 total movies in your entire life.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Malificent

Strangely enough, I much prefer the first prequel over either of the other two and I wish I could wipe Episode III from my memory.

I agree. They all suck, but at least Episoide I had Qui Gon and Darth Maul. The fight between Darth Maul, Qui Gon, and Obi Wan, was the only memorable sequence in any of the those three pieces of crap.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

The Star Wars prequels not sucking?!?!?! There is someone actually believe that????

As far as IJ, Raiders in my top 3 all time favorite. Crusade watch very watchable and fun. Doom was one of the worst movies of all time. It would be interesting to see where Skull comes in. My guess it would be like Crusade.

One of the reasons Lucas rejected previous scripts was that he felt it did not have enough action. That signifies a SW prequels mindset where it was all action and the dialog/story was hideously bad. Maybe Speilberg had changed that.

I don't think they suck. I enjoyed parts of them, especially in the 3rd one when you can actually see Anakin turn to the dark side. Good stuff that is. As I said earlier though, Natalie Portman is the reason I watch them again.

I agree with you on Raiders of the Lost Ark. Easily the best IJ movie. Temple of Doom was adequate but not very good. Crusade was good, mostly because 1) the blonde was hot, and 2) Sean Connery and Harrison Ford had some great dialogue and seemed to mesh well on camera. I also liked the first and third movies because they involved killing Nazis. Any movie or video game that involves killing Nazis is +1 IMHO.

sabotai · 02-13-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Malificent

Strangely enough, I much prefer the first prequel over either of the other two and I wish I could wipe Episode III from my memory.

I think the first prequal suffers from trying to appeal to kids too much, while Ep. II and III appealed more to teens/adults. If someone were to cut out all of the "for kids" stuff in Ep. I, I think it would actually be a decent movie (cut out JarJar as much as possible, cut out Anakin's stupid one-liners, etc.)

The Darth Maul fight at the end is still one of the better lightsaber fights, even if the way it ended couldn't have been worse.

Kodos · 02-13-2008, 10:47 AM

I actually prefer the Last Crusade to Raiders. Temple of Doom was okay.

Buccaneer · 02-13-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I agree that 1 and 3 were easily the best, but to say that 2 was "one of the worst movies of all time" is (excuse this) fucking idiotic. Either A) You are using hyperbole, or B) You have seen like 10 total movies in your entire life.

Aww man, we've gone around and around on this before. No movie, for me, had such high expectations and failed so miserably. That would be a definition of "worst movie", wouldn't it? Movies that are truly bad would also be "worst movies". Both are valid, imo.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I agree that 1 and 3 were easily the best, but to say that 2 was "one of the worst movies of all time" is (excuse this) fucking idiotic. Either A) You are using hyperbole, or B) You have seen like 10 total movies in your entire life.

It's all relative.

Given how great and influential the first three movies were, these sequels just seem so much more offensive than crap like "The Hottie and The Nottie", "Gigli", "Baby Genuises II: Superbabies".

As was stated on this site in the past: When you watch these prequels "your entire world is shat upon, your very sense of right and wrong is questioned."

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I think the first prequal suffers from trying to appeal to kids too much, while Ep. II and III appealed more to teens/adults. If someone were to cut out all of the "for kids" stuff in Ep. I, I think it would actually be a decent movie (cut out JarJar as much as possible, cut out Anakin's stupid one-liners, etc.)

The Darth Maul fight at the end is still one of the better lightsaber fights, even if the way it ended couldn't have been worse.

Well put. No Jar Jar would be nice, and the lightsaber fight with Darth Maul is one of the best fight scenes I have ever seen in a movie.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

He also directed them. Did you forget that in your own ignorance?

Spielberg is directing this one, and it will be fine.

Well, so long as Lucas had about as much creative influence as say, the key grip, I wont be worried.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Aww man, we've gone around and around on this before. No movie, for me, had such high expectations and failed so miserably. That would be a definition of "worst movie", wouldn't it? Movies that are truly bad would also be "worst movies". Both are valid, imo.

Bucc has the right of it.

Warhammer · 02-13-2008, 11:01 AM

If any set of movies lead to something like Clone Wars they can't be all bad.

Marc Vaughan · 02-13-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Uh, were you not aware that Lucas made three prequels to his Star Wars movies solely for the same target audience as the original films

(corrected your typo

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My sons and all of my sons friends love the prequels and they are the target audience for those films .... to be honest I don't mind them that much so long as I suspend my 'but its not StarWars' vibe ...

Lets me honest if the original StarWars movie came out now and we'd never seen it before then chances are we wouldn't be quite so impressed ... just some things from your childhood end up having special significance to you.

Buccaneer · 02-13-2008, 11:06 AM

The original Star Wars were about an engaging story arc which was the core of the movies. The prequels were simply bad scripting and very bad acting against a blue or green screen. But that's what sells nowadays among the kids/teens/young adults horde.

Warhammer · 02-13-2008, 11:07 AM

Agreed Marc. My kids idolize Anakin. They love all the movies, but whenever they start playing Star Wars, my oldest is Anakin, I am Obi Wan, and my youngest is "Trooper".

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Aww man, we've gone around and around on this before. No movie, for me, had such high expectations and failed so miserably. That would be a definition of "worst movie", wouldn't it? Movies that are truly bad would also be "worst movies". Both are valid, imo.

Ok, I get that. Makes since.

You still suck though.

Buccaneer · 02-13-2008, 11:11 AM

What do you think happens when those that only saw the prequels watch New Hope or Empire?

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

It's all relative.

Given how great and influential the first three movies were, these sequels just seem so much more offensive than crap like "The Hottie and The Nottie", "Gigli", "Baby Genuises II: Superbabies".

As was stated on this site in the past: When you watch these prequels "your entire world is shat upon, your very sense of right and wrong is questioned."

I wasn't talking about Star Wars, geek. I was talking about the Indy films.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I wasn't talking about Star Wars, geek. I was talking about the Indy films.

Oh.

*shuffles off back to his parent's basement*

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

The original Star Wars were about an engaging story arc which was the core of the movies. The prequels were simply bad scripting and very bad acting against a blue or green screen. But that's what sells nowadays among the kids/teens/young adults horde.

I agree with everything you said there, but I do think that the atmosphere in the third prequel was perfect, especially at the end. Now, if only they could have fixed the horrific script, acting, directing, etc.....

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

What do you think happens when those that only saw the prequels watch New Hope or Empire?

I think it depends on the age/intelligence factor. It also depends on expectations (as you stated about ToD).

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

The original Star Wars were about an engaging story arc which was the core of the movies. The prequels were simply bad scripting and very bad acting against a blue or green screen. But that's what sells nowadays among the kids/teens/young adults horde.

What would you think about a movie based upon the Knights of the Old Republic setting? I thought the games were pretty cool (at least what I could play). A movie might be cool if they did it right.

Buccaneer · 02-13-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I agree with everything you said there, but I do think that the atmosphere in the third prequel was perfect, especially at the end. Now, if only they could have fixed the horrific script, acting, directing, etc.....

I'll give you the point about atmosphere.

Oilers9911 · 02-13-2008, 11:45 AM

Two things

1) Episode I II and III all sucked large.
2) What a stupid title for a movie, The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Terrible.

Dr. Sak · 02-13-2008, 11:47 AM

If you take the word "The" out of the title, you could possibly have a good title for a porno.

stevew · 02-13-2008, 12:18 PM

I'm going to start tossing Lucas Hating people out of the window of this thread. When others ask why, i'll simply state......

No Ticket!

stevew · 02-13-2008, 12:20 PM

dola,

Dare I say this movie will be nearly impossible to screw up.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 12:31 PM

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dola,

Dare I say this movie will be nearly impossible to screw up.

I reckon quite a few people said that about the Star Wars prequels too...

As far as this movie goes, I am not that worried. Speilberg is involved and the cast is pretty outstanding.

Buccaneer · 02-13-2008, 12:35 PM

Yes, as long as they are fighting Nazis/Soviets (same kind of bad guys) and not some unconnectable rajah baddies.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 01:00 PM

This may be off base a little, but would it not be f'ing hilarious if they were to cast Will Ferrell as Indiana Jones rather than Harrison Ford? Obviously it would no longer be the same theme but it would be funny as all hell.

Will Ferrell (+1) as one of only a handful of SNL actors to be any good in movies.

Schmidty · 02-13-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

This may be off base a little, but would it not be f'ing hilarious if they were to cast Will Ferrell as Indiana Jones rather than Harrison Ford? Obviously it would no longer be the same theme but it would be funny as all hell.

I don't think Buc likes you.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-13-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

This may be off base a little, but would it not be f'ing hilarious if they were to cast Will Ferrell as Indiana Jones rather than Harrison Ford? Obviously it would no longer be the same theme but it would be funny as all hell.

No. It wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Will Ferrell (+1) as one of only a handful of SNL actors to be any good in movies.

Are you talking all time?

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I don't think Buc likes you.

I don't like him either.

He better just watch himself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems.

RomaGoth · 02-13-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Are you talking all time?

Possibly. There were a lot of good ones from the 70's and 80's though. I am mostly referring to the generation of SNL cast members that Ferrell was involved with. Most of the recent ones suck eggs on the big screen.

David Spade =

BrianD · 02-13-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

This may be off base a little, but would it not be f'ing hilarious if they were to cast Will Ferrell as Indiana Jones rather than Harrison Ford? Obviously it would no longer be the same theme but it would be funny as all hell.

Will Ferrell (+1) as one of only a handful of SNL actors to be any good in movies.

Happily, Spielberg seems to have more respect for his franchise than that. Aside from Stranger Than Fiction and possibly Elf, I haven't seen anything from Farrell that I'd even consider acceptable, let alone good.

stevew · 02-13-2008, 01:30 PM

What the fuck is this rgmagic dood.

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I am a huge Portman fan, so I can say this with conviction: Episode III, the only watchable one, would be significantly better if every scene that she appeared in was removed.

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Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	The Star Wars prequels not sucking?!?!?! There is someone actually believe that???? As far as IJ, Raiders in my top 3 all time favorite. Crusade watch very watchable and fun. Doom was one of the worst movies of all time. It would be interesting to see where Skull comes in. My guess it would be like Crusade. One of the reasons Lucas rejected previous scripts was that he felt it did not have enough action. That signifies a SW prequels mindset where it was all action and the dialog/story was hideously bad. Maybe Speilberg had changed that.

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I actually prefer the Last Crusade to Raiders. Temple of Doom was okay.

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Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	If any set of movies lead to something like Clone Wars they can't be all bad.

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Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	The original Star Wars were about an engaging story arc which was the core of the movies. The prequels were simply bad scripting and very bad acting against a blue or green screen. But that's what sells nowadays among the kids/teens/young adults horde.

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Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Agreed Marc. My kids idolize Anakin. They love all the movies, but whenever they start playing Star Wars, my oldest is Anakin, I am Obi Wan, and my youngest is "Trooper".

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Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	What do you think happens when those that only saw the prequels watch New Hope or Empire?

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Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Two things 1) Episode I II and III all sucked large. 2) What a stupid title for a movie, The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Terrible.

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	If you take the word "The" out of the title, you could possibly have a good title for a porno.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm going to start tossing Lucas Hating people out of the window of this thread. When others ask why, i'll simply state...... No Ticket!

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Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Yes, as long as they are fighting Nazis/Soviets (same kind of bad guys) and not some unconnectable rajah baddies.

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