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So I guess this is actually going to go on right down the road from me.....at the Creation Museum of all places. Streams online for free as well. I just don't see anything good coming out of it. It's not a debate where people are going to be listening to both sides and rationally deciding which side did the better job. It's going to be two groups who already have decided, one much larger than the other, hoping for a bloodbath of the other side.
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This was mentioned at church today. I'm scared to see what kind of ammunition YECs might try to derive from this.
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Yeah. On another note, I think Bill Nye is a bit overrated because of the Pavlovian response he triggers (teacher doesn't feel like teaching/assigning homework in science class that day -> puts in a Bill Nye video). |
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I misread the title, thinking this thread was going to be about Kosher foods.
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I'm not excited about this either. It won't resolve anything and will probably make things between evangelicals and mouthy atheists even more contentious. I hope I am wrong.
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Well given where I live and surrounded by a number of people who are genuine YEC believers (which I think is one of the biggest crock lies out there and totally debases an entire church if they believe that crap) I'm sure I'll hear how God came down and smote the scientist with The Truth.
What I want to ask then is, "Did he get away on a dinosaur then?" Because I'm sure that'll improve the situation.
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I'm still wondering how we got so stupid. Will there be a Scopes Monkey trial rematch someday?
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If you're been through the museum, you know he did indeed get away on a dinosaur. I went through it last year, one of my students works there and gave me free passes. I'm shocked anyone can believe what that museum depicts with regard to man being here with dinos, etc.
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So how is the museum? I'm hoping to stop by on the way to a wedding this summer. I think it sounds utterly ridiculous, but I'm hopeful it's ridiculous in a completely awesome way. I mean, people and dinosaurs living in harmony, how can it be bad?
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IIRC we have a board member who is a YEC and tried to explain his thoughts to us in a thread a while back.
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Every time I see this thread bumped, I keep thinking "Alright, give me a Hamm on five, hold the Mayo."
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It's not bad, but I think it's kind of impossible to think that way, but that's how I'm wired. There were a couple exhibits that were not real kid friendly (abortion is murder kind of thing), but there was some cool stuff for the kids as well (noah's ark, my son loved the dinosaurs, etc). I can tell you this, their outdoor light show is pretty cool at Christmas time.
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25 minutes in.
Listening to Ham use his "science" the idea of making a theory around evidence and calling it science. Using observation bias as a way to justify his entire stance. The last 10 minutes were a sermon. It's utterly fucking ridiculous.
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The debate itself is actually very well done. It's a good format. Each side gets their time. Both men are fair and it's all very professional. I think it's pretty one sided in terms of who is winning, however I certainly have an slanted opinion going in of who I think is right.
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I'll say what got me a rather stern lecture in school (went to a Christian school)...
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Still has to be better than the debate Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort were involved in. I honestly don't know of a good debate of this type where the Christian did a good job of representing their side but then I haven't really gone out and looked for one. It is basically two people talking with no real resolution.
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I find it interesting that religion can be argued emotionally, intellectually and spiritually to achieve the same conclusion. It's Schrödinger's Cross
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Not on this same subject but the wife and I were having a debate on The Bible the other day. I am Catholic and she was raised Indepedent Baptist. She was taught the Bible is it. I believe in the Bible and the truths that it teaches however I also believe that since it was written by humans who are not perfect. Therefore not everything is 100% accurate. Also you can make the arguement that 5 people can witness the same event, write about it, and all have different views, and you can see that in the Gospels. |
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Not to mention that 5 people can tell a story passed down to each and end up with a totally different story then what it started out as. Yet in this case, every version and interpretation is supposedly correct. It just doesn't work that way.
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