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WSUCougar · 06-09-2005, 08:05 PM

Has anyone else ever experienced a fluke occurence when all of the week's home teams returned their opening kickoff for a TD? We just had this occur in the IHOF.

cthomer5000 · 06-09-2005, 08:06 PM

Hey, only those who receieved the opening kickoff! (10 of 14).

sovereignstar · 06-09-2005, 08:09 PM

Karma's a bitch eh, fucking elitist.

No, I haven't seen either of the two odd occurences that have happened in that league.

cthomer5000 · 06-09-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

No, I haven't seen either of the two odd occurences that have happened in that league.

You know why? You aren't elite enough.

Cuckoo · 06-09-2005, 08:14 PM

I haven't seen it NAFL either - but we're not even close to elite. After all, we have JeeberD.

gottimd · 06-09-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

I haven't seen it NAFL either - but we're not even close to elite. After all, we have JeeberD.

Whoa Whoa Whoa....speak for yourself. My team is an elite piece of shit.

duckman · 06-09-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

I haven't seen it NAFL either - but we're not even close to elite. After all, we have JeeberD.

Poor Jeebs. Receiving constant abuse from us Okies.

Flasch186 · 06-10-2005, 01:20 AM

yabanci · 06-10-2005, 04:12 AM

in 5 seasons of the eNFL, never.

MIJB#19 · 06-10-2005, 05:59 AM

Actually it was 10 games that were simulated after eachother, rather than only the home teams. In 10 consecutive games the home team won the toss, elected to receive and saw their return man run the kick back for the 6-pointer.

And the IHOF does have JeeberD, although only as a oft-used temp owner and a pretty good predictor of game outcomes.

JeeberD · 06-10-2005, 06:58 AM

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Poor Jeebs. Receiving constant abuse from us Okies.

Meh, that's like saying I receive a bunch of abuse from third graders. How bad can it really hurt?

Passacaglia · 06-10-2005, 09:13 AM

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in 5 seasons of the eNFL, never.

But we did have a weird little blip where all the visiting teams benched their starting QBs midway through the game. Might be noteworthy, since it deals with either the home or visiting team.

jbmagic · 06-10-2005, 11:24 AM

did you try to re-sim that week to see if it happens again?

and let people redo that week again

sovereignstar · 06-10-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

But we did have a weird little blip where all the visiting teams benched their starting QBs midway through the game. Might be noteworthy, since it deals with either the home or visiting team.

Well that was the other odd occurence I was referring to in my 3rd post. They experienced that quite a while ago. Don't recall what the verdict was though.

duckman · 06-10-2005, 02:37 PM

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Meh, that's like saying I receive a bunch of abuse from third graders. How bad can it really hurt?

I don't know. Let me dig up those UTEP-OU score again.

Celeval · 06-10-2005, 04:38 PM

FYI, there is a confirmed issue that caused this. The issue is with random number seeding, and games using the same initial random seed if they start in the same second, and can cause runs of similar results on the opening kickoff of games (we noticed it when there were high numbers of kickoff returns, but has caused runs of 79 yard kicks for touchbacks and the like).

Solecismic has acknowledged it and will be issuing a patch in the near future. All hail awesome tech support.

There's a somewhat detailed explanation on the IHOF boards, buried in the middle of page six on http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/viewt...=asc&start=100 this thread.

sovereignstar · 06-10-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

FYI, there is a confirmed issue that caused this. The issue is with random number seeding, and games using the same initial random seed if they start in the same second, and can cause runs of similar results on the opening kickoff of games (we noticed it when there were high numbers of kickoff returns, but has caused runs of 79 yard kicks for touchbacks and the like).

Solecismic has acknowledged it and will be issuing a patch in the near future. All hail awesome tech support.

There's a somewhat detailed explanation on the IHOF boards, buried in the middle of page six on http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/viewt...=asc&start=100 this thread.

Ignorance would've been bliss on this one. I've got a feeling that a lot of guys will misinterpret what has been going on.

SackAttack · 06-10-2005, 10:00 PM

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Ignorance would've been bliss on this one. I've got a feeling that a lot of guys will misinterpret what has been going on.

It nearly was. I saw a return in my own game, I saw one in Vince's (we downtrodden have to stick together, you know), and I saw 3ric mention that he had one, so I started checking other game logs, and they started spawning like Tribbles.

Honestly, the reason I think it wasn't noticed sooner is that in this case, it was right there in the box score. If it had been something more mundane like the aforementioned touchbacks, or even something like a fumble on the kickoff, where you'd have to read the play-by-play for each game to see it, it would have - and evidently did - take much longer to come to light.

sovereignstar · 06-10-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

It nearly was. I saw a return in my own game, I saw one in Vince's (we downtrodden have to stick together, you know), and I saw 3ric mention that he had one, so I started checking other game logs, and they started spawning like Tribbles.

Honestly, the reason I think it wasn't noticed sooner is that in this case, it was right there in the box score. If it had been something more mundane like the aforementioned touchbacks, or even something like a fumble on the kickoff, where you'd have to read the play-by-play for each game to see it, it would have - and evidently did - take much longer to come to light.

Oh, I'm glad that it was found as it needs to be fixed. I just thought that it'd be nice if it was found and fixed on the down low. There are enough people getting their panties in a wad over at IHOF.

SackAttack · 06-10-2005, 10:41 PM

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Oh, I'm glad that it was found as it needs to be fixed. I just thought that it'd be nice if it was found and fixed on the down low. There are enough people getting their panties in a wad over at IHOF.

If "bug" had occurred to me, I would have reported it privately. It shocked me enough that I just felt compelled to share it as a statistical oddity. That it wasn't fixed "on the down low" is my fault. I take full responsibility for that.

06-09-2005, 08:14 PM	#5
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06-10-2005, 01:20 AM	#8
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06-10-2005, 05:59 AM	#10
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Actually it was 10 games that were simulated after eachother, rather than only the home teams. In 10 consecutive games the home team won the toss, elected to receive and saw their return man run the kick back for the 6-pointer. And the IHOF does have JeeberD, although only as a oft-used temp owner and a pretty good predictor of game outcomes. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-09-2005, 08:09 PM	#3
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Karma's a bitch eh, fucking elitist. No, I haven't seen either of the two odd occurences that have happened in that league.

06-10-2005, 04:12 AM	#9
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	in 5 seasons of the eNFL, never.

06-10-2005, 11:24 AM	#13
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	did you try to re-sim that week to see if it happens again? and let people redo that week again

06-10-2005, 04:38 PM	#16
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	FYI, there is a confirmed issue that caused this. The issue is with random number seeding, and games using the same initial random seed if they start in the same second, and can cause runs of similar results on the opening kickoff of games (we noticed it when there were high numbers of kickoff returns, but has caused runs of 79 yard kicks for touchbacks and the like). Solecismic has acknowledged it and will be issuing a patch in the near future. All hail awesome tech support. There's a somewhat detailed explanation on the IHOF boards, buried in the middle of page six on http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/viewt...=asc&start=100 this thread.

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