College Football History, Relegation Style

sabotai · 05-20-2005, 07:00 PM

This will be a historic replay of college football histroy with one littly, tiny twist. It will be done relegation style. That's right! Teams will be broken up into conferences much like in the English world of soccer. The best teams move up, the worst teams move down

The Setup

College Platinum Conference (CPC) - The top conference. 12 teams. Bottom 2 teams get relegated to the CGC.

College Gold Conference (CGC) - The second top conference. 12 teams. The top 2 teams get promoted into the CPC and the bottom 2 go down to the CSC.

College Silver Conference (CSC) - The third top conference. 12 Teams. The top 2 teams get promoted to the CGC. The bottom team gets relegated out.

We start in 1900, with 41 teams. 36 are in conferences, leaving 5 independant teams. The Independant with the best record enters the CSC.

The Schedule

Each team plays each other once. That gives us an 11 game schedule for the regular season.

In the independants, they will all play each other twice for an 8 game schedule.

Each conference then plays a 6 team tournament, with the top 2 teams getting byes, for the conference championship. The games in these tournements count towards the final record and standings.

Then, we go to the big tournement. A 32 team tournement. The setup for the 1900 season will be every team, seeded by conference and then record, that was not relegated. That gives up 31 teams. The last spot will be taken by the independant team with the best record. The games played in this tournement do not count towards records and standings.

The Game

The game I will be using to do this will be Quick Play Football, an "excel and dice" game I found on www.tabletop-sports.com. Each team gets a few ratings and that's it. So no rosters or stats will be kept. It's just scores and records.

Each team that finishes first in their conference will receive a +1 bonus to all of their values for the next season.

If ia team is not rated the following year, they retain the values they had the previous season, but with a -1 penalty to all of them.

sabotai · 05-20-2005, 07:03 PM

1900 Preseason

College Platinum Conference
Yale
Pennsylvania
Harvard
Princeton
Wisconsin
Lafayette
Minnesota
Cornell
Iowa
Columbia
Syracuse
Beloit

College Gold Conference
Brown
Nebraska
Carlisle
Michigan
Bowdoin
Northwestern
Illinois
Chicago
Notre Dame
Army
Navy
Dickinson

College Silver Conference
Drake
Wesleyan
Williams
Knox
Indiana
Penn State
Lehigh
Holy Cross
Amherst
Purdue
Trinity
Tufts

Independants
Massachusetts
Dartmouth
Bucknell
Grinnell
Iowa State

General Mike · 05-20-2005, 07:09 PM

No Rutgers? B'otch!

sabotai · 05-20-2005, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike

No Rutgers? B'otch!

They're not rated in the file I have. I searched and they don't appear until 1914. And then they disappear, and then come back, and then disappear....

sabotai · 05-20-2005, 08:21 PM

Week 1 Schedule

CPC
Yale at Harvard
Pennsylvania at Princeton
Wisconsin at Minnesota
Lafayette at Cornell
Iowa at Syracuse
Columbia at Beloit

CGC
Brown at Carlisle
Nebraska at Michigan
Bowdoin at Illinois
Northwestern at Chicago
Notre Dame at Navy
Army at Dickinson

CSC
Drake at Williams
Weslayen at Knox
Indiana at Lehigh
Penn State at Holy Cross
Amherst at Trinity
Purdue at Tufts

Ind.
Massachusetts at Dartmouth
Bucknell at Iowa State

Wolfpack · 05-20-2005, 11:06 PM

Yale and Harvard out of the gate? Sheesh. So much for tradition.

In the end, I expect it will come down to Yale and Iowa, which were both unbeaten in my 1900 replay.

sabotai · 05-21-2005, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Yale and Harvard out of the gate? Sheesh. So much for tradition.

In the end, I expect it will come down to Yale and Iowa, which were both unbeaten in my 1900 replay.

There's no tradition like a new tradition.

And looking at the numbers, you're probably right. Yale has the most complete team, but Iowa is packing an offensive powerhouse.

sabotai · 05-21-2005, 12:04 PM

CPC Week 1 Results

Games
Yale 14, Harvard 13
Pennsylvania 16, Princeton 14
Wisconsin 37, Minnesota 13
Lafayette 0, Cornell 14
Iowa 41, Syracuse 14
Columbia 19, Beloit 8

Standings

Code:

CPC		Wins	Loses
 Yale		1	
 Pennsylvania	1	
 Wisconsin	1	
 Cornell	1	
 Iowa		1	
 Columbia	1	
 Harvard		1
 Princeton		1
 Lafayette		1
 Minnesota		1
 Syracuse		1
 Beloit			1

tucker342 · 05-22-2005, 03:31 PM

Go Iowa!

sabotai · 05-25-2005, 08:13 PM

CGC Week 1 Results

Brown 3, Carlisle 7
Nebraska 7, Michigan 10
Bowdoin 14, Illinois 12
Northwestern 0, Chicago 21
Notre Dame 17, Navy 3
Army 3, Dickinson 24

Standings After Week 1

Code:

CGC		Wins	Loses		
 Carlisle	1	
 Michigan	1	
 Bowdoin	1	
 Chicago	1	
 Notre Dame	1	
 Dickinson	1	
 Brown			1
 Nebraska		1
 Northwestern		1
 Illinois		1
 Army			1
 Navy			1

Wolfpack · 05-25-2005, 08:29 PM

I'll go ahead and call a shot for 1901. If Michigan doesn't get out of the second division after this year, they'll slaughter everyone and everything en route to a 13-0 mark and the conference title next year. About the only team I can see stopping them is Harvard. It wasn't Fielding Yost's "point-a-minute" squad for nothing.

sabotai · 05-25-2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I'll go ahead and call a shot for 1901. If Michigan doesn't get out of the second division after this year, they'll slaughter everyone and everything en route to a 13-0 mark and the conference title next year. About the only team I can see stopping them is Harvard. It wasn't Fielding Yost's "point-a-minute" squad for nothing.

It's going to be hard for them to get out of the Gold Conference, too, since their team isn't all that good, really. I'd say the frontrunners for promotion would be Carlisle, Bowdoin and Notre Dame. But yeah, they'll likely tear it up next year.

sabotai · 05-25-2005, 08:52 PM

CSC Week 1 Results

Drake 7, Williams 7
Wesleyan 21, Knox 3
Indiana 7, Lehigh 3
Penn State 7, Holy Cross 9
Amherst 9, Trinity 0
Purdue 22, Tufts 16

CSC Standings After Week 1

Code:

CSC    		Wins    Loses	Ties	    	
 Wesleyan	1	0	0
 Indiana	1	0	0
 Holy Cross	1	0	0
 Amherst	1	0	0
 Purdue		1	0	0
 Drake		0	0	1
 Williams	0	0	1
 Knox		0	1	0
 Penn State	0	1	0
 Lehigh		0	1	0
 Trinity	0	1	0
 Tufts		0	1	0

sabotai · 05-25-2005, 09:05 PM

Independants Week 1 Results

Massachusetts 0, Dartmouth 3
Bucknell 7, Iowa State 3

Independant Standings After Week 1

Code:

 Ind.		Wins	Loses	Ties
 Dartmouth	1	0	0
 Bucknell	1	0	0
 Grinnell	0	0	0
 Massachusetts	0	1	0
 Iowa State	0	1	0

sabotai · 05-25-2005, 09:12 PM

Week 2 Schedule

CPC
Princeton at Yale
Harvard at Pennsylvania
Cornell at Wisconsin
Minnesota at Lafayette
Beloit at Iowa
Syracuse at Columbia

CGC
Michigan at Brown
Carlisle at Nebraska
Chicago at Bowoin
Illinois at Northwestern
Dickinson at Notre Dame
Navy at Army

CSC
Knox at Drake
Williams at Wesleyan
Holy Cross at Indiana
Lehigh at Penn State
Tufts at Amherst
Trinity at Purdue

Ind.
Grinnell at Bucknell
Iowa State at Massachusetts

MIJB#19 · 05-26-2005, 08:40 AM

Minor bitching: relegating up? Don't you mean promoting, or is my English that bad?

Wolfpack · 05-26-2005, 10:09 AM

Just think of it as negative Newspeak. Sort of like saying, "plus unbad" or "double plus unbad".

sabotai · 05-26-2005, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Minor bitching: relegating up? Don't you mean promoting, or is my English that bad?

Yeah, yeah, I fixed it.

sabotai · 05-29-2005, 02:00 PM

CPC Week 2 Results

Princeton 6, Yale 24
Harvard 6, Pennsylvania 17
Cornell 0, Wisconsin 40
Minnesota 15, Lafayette 24
Beloit 14, Iowa 26
Syracuse 10, Columbia 19

CPC Standings after Week 2

Code:

CPC    		Wins    Loses	Ties	PF	PA
 Yale		2	0	0	38	19
 Pennsylvania	2	0	0	33	20
 Wisconsin	2	0	0	87	13
 Iowa		2	0	0	67	28
 Columbia	2	0	0	38	18
 Cornell	1	1	0	14	40
 Lafayette	1	1	0	24	29
 Harvard	0	2	0	19	31
 Princeton	0	2	0	20	40
 Minnesota	0	2	0	28	61
 Syracuse	0	2	0	24	60
 Beloit		0	2	0	22	45

Wolfpack · 05-29-2005, 09:48 PM

How do you intend to handle promotion/relegation with respect to schools that don't consistently field teams, especially during these first few years when teams are in one year but not the next? Are they considered to have been "relegated" if they drop out for a year (or longer), thus sparing another team the axe or what?

sabotai · 05-29-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

How do you intend to handle promotion/relegation with respect to schools that don't consistently field teams, especially during these first few years when teams are in one year but not the next? Are they considered to have been "relegated" if they drop out for a year (or longer), thus sparing another team the axe or what?

What I'm going to do is just keep them in the league, use the prior year's ratings but put a -1 penalty to all of the values. If they are still gone, I add another -1 penalty, et.c If they go long enough without coming back, they'll be dreadfully horrible and I'll just cut them out for good (but not until they are out of the top conferences)

New teams coming in always start as Ind. or in the bottom group (if their addition to the league gives enough for another conference).

sabotai · 06-11-2005, 03:02 PM

CGC Week 2 Results

Michigan 0, Brown 13
Carlisle 20, Nebraska 10
Chicago 21, Bowdoin 21
Illinois 14, Northwestern 0
Dickinson 23, Notre Dame 13
Army 7, Navy 0

CGC Standings after Week 2

Code:

CGC    		Wins    Loses	Ties	PF	PA
 Dickinson	2	0	0	47	16
 Carlisle	2	0	0	27	13
 Chicago	1	0	1	42	21
 Bowdoin	1	0	1	35	33
 Notre Dame	1	1	0	30	26
 Illinois	1	1	0	26	14
 Brown		1	1	0	16	7
 Michigan	1	1	0	10	20
 Army		1	1	0	10	24
 Nebraska	0	2	0	17	30
 Navy		0	2	0	3	24
 Northwestern	0	2	0	0	35

sabotai · 06-12-2005, 10:48 AM

CSC Week 2 Results

Knox 6, Drake 6
Williams 0, Wesleyan 10
Holy Cross 0, Indiana 14
Lehigh 0, Penn State 21
Tufts 3, Amherst 10
Trinity 3, Purdue 24

CSC Standings after Week 2

Code:

CSC    		Wins    Loses	Ties	PF	PA
 Purdue		2	0	0	46	19
 Wesleyan	2	0	0	31	3
 Indiana	2	0	0	21	3
 Amherst	2	0	0	19	3
 Penn State	1	1	0	28	9
 Holy Cross	1	1	0	9	21
 Drake		0	0	2	13	13
 Knox		0	1	1	9	27
 Williams	0	1	1	7	17
 Tufts		0	2	0	19	32
 Lehigh		0	2	0	3	28
 Trinity	0	2	0	3	33

05-20-2005, 07:09 PM	#3
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	No Rutgers? B'otch! __________________ Boise Stampede Continental Football League Jacksonville Jaguars GM North American Football League Nebraska Coach FOFC-BBCF Rutgers & Washington coach Bowl Bound-BBCF

05-21-2005, 12:04 PM	#8
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	CPC Week 1 Results Games Yale 14, Harvard 13 Pennsylvania 16, Princeton 14 Wisconsin 37, Minnesota 13 Lafayette 0, Cornell 14 Iowa 41, Syracuse 14 Columbia 19, Beloit 8 Standings Code: CPC Wins Loses Yale 1 Pennsylvania 1 Wisconsin 1 Cornell 1 Iowa 1 Columbia 1 Harvard 1 Princeton 1 Lafayette 1 Minnesota 1 Syracuse 1 Beloit 1 Last edited by sabotai : 05-21-2005 at 12:07 PM.

05-25-2005, 08:13 PM	#10
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	CGC Week 1 Results Brown 3, Carlisle 7 Nebraska 7, Michigan 10 Bowdoin 14, Illinois 12 Northwestern 0, Chicago 21 Notre Dame 17, Navy 3 Army 3, Dickinson 24 Standings After Week 1 Code: CGC Wins Loses Carlisle 1 Michigan 1 Bowdoin 1 Chicago 1 Notre Dame 1 Dickinson 1 Brown 1 Nebraska 1 Northwestern 1 Illinois 1 Army 1 Navy 1 Last edited by sabotai : 05-25-2005 at 08:14 PM.

05-25-2005, 08:52 PM	#13
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	CSC Week 1 Results Drake 7, Williams 7 Wesleyan 21, Knox 3 Indiana 7, Lehigh 3 Penn State 7, Holy Cross 9 Amherst 9, Trinity 0 Purdue 22, Tufts 16 CSC Standings After Week 1 Code: CSC Wins Loses Ties Wesleyan 1 0 0 Indiana 1 0 0 Holy Cross 1 0 0 Amherst 1 0 0 Purdue 1 0 0 Drake 0 0 1 Williams 0 0 1 Knox 0 1 0 Penn State 0 1 0 Lehigh 0 1 0 Trinity 0 1 0 Tufts 0 1 0 Last edited by sabotai : 05-25-2005 at 08:53 PM.

05-25-2005, 09:05 PM	#14
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Independants Week 1 Results Massachusetts 0, Dartmouth 3 Bucknell 7, Iowa State 3 Independant Standings After Week 1 Code: Ind. Wins Loses Ties Dartmouth 1 0 0 Bucknell 1 0 0 Grinnell 0 0 0 Massachusetts 0 1 0 Iowa State 0 1 0

05-20-2005, 07:03 PM	#2
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	1900 Preseason College Platinum Conference Yale Pennsylvania Harvard Princeton Wisconsin Lafayette Minnesota Cornell Iowa Columbia Syracuse Beloit College Gold Conference Brown Nebraska Carlisle Michigan Bowdoin Northwestern Illinois Chicago Notre Dame Army Navy Dickinson College Silver Conference Drake Wesleyan Williams Knox Indiana Penn State Lehigh Holy Cross Amherst Purdue Trinity Tufts Independants Massachusetts Dartmouth Bucknell Grinnell Iowa State

05-20-2005, 08:21 PM	#5
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Week 1 Schedule CPC Yale at Harvard Pennsylvania at Princeton Wisconsin at Minnesota Lafayette at Cornell Iowa at Syracuse Columbia at Beloit CGC Brown at Carlisle Nebraska at Michigan Bowdoin at Illinois Northwestern at Chicago Notre Dame at Navy Army at Dickinson CSC Drake at Williams Weslayen at Knox Indiana at Lehigh Penn State at Holy Cross Amherst at Trinity Purdue at Tufts Ind. Massachusetts at Dartmouth Bucknell at Iowa State

05-20-2005, 11:06 PM	#6
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Yale and Harvard out of the gate? Sheesh. So much for tradition. In the end, I expect it will come down to Yale and Iowa, which were both unbeaten in my 1900 replay.

05-22-2005, 03:31 PM	#9
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Go Iowa!

05-25-2005, 08:29 PM	#11
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	I'll go ahead and call a shot for 1901. If Michigan doesn't get out of the second division after this year, they'll slaughter everyone and everything en route to a 13-0 mark and the conference title next year. About the only team I can see stopping them is Harvard. It wasn't Fielding Yost's "point-a-minute" squad for nothing.

05-25-2005, 09:12 PM	#15
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Week 2 Schedule CPC Princeton at Yale Harvard at Pennsylvania Cornell at Wisconsin Minnesota at Lafayette Beloit at Iowa Syracuse at Columbia CGC Michigan at Brown Carlisle at Nebraska Chicago at Bowoin Illinois at Northwestern Dickinson at Notre Dame Navy at Army CSC Knox at Drake Williams at Wesleyan Holy Cross at Indiana Lehigh at Penn State Tufts at Amherst Trinity at Purdue Ind. Grinnell at Bucknell Iowa State at Massachusetts

05-26-2005, 08:40 AM	#16
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Minor bitching: relegating up? Don't you mean promoting, or is my English that bad? __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

05-26-2005, 10:09 AM	#17
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Just think of it as negative Newspeak. Sort of like saying, "plus unbad" or "double plus unbad".

05-29-2005, 02:00 PM	#19
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	CPC Week 2 Results Princeton 6, Yale 24 Harvard 6, Pennsylvania 17 Cornell 0, Wisconsin 40 Minnesota 15, Lafayette 24 Beloit 14, Iowa 26 Syracuse 10, Columbia 19 CPC Standings after Week 2 Code: CPC Wins Loses Ties PF PA Yale 2 0 0 38 19 Pennsylvania 2 0 0 33 20 Wisconsin 2 0 0 87 13 Iowa 2 0 0 67 28 Columbia 2 0 0 38 18 Cornell 1 1 0 14 40 Lafayette 1 1 0 24 29 Harvard 0 2 0 19 31 Princeton 0 2 0 20 40 Minnesota 0 2 0 28 61 Syracuse 0 2 0 24 60 Beloit 0 2 0 22 45 Last edited by sabotai : 05-29-2005 at 02:01 PM.

05-29-2005, 09:48 PM	#20
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	How do you intend to handle promotion/relegation with respect to schools that don't consistently field teams, especially during these first few years when teams are in one year but not the next? Are they considered to have been "relegated" if they drop out for a year (or longer), thus sparing another team the axe or what?

06-11-2005, 03:02 PM	#22
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	CGC Week 2 Results Michigan 0, Brown 13 Carlisle 20, Nebraska 10 Chicago 21, Bowdoin 21 Illinois 14, Northwestern 0 Dickinson 23, Notre Dame 13 Army 7, Navy 0 CGC Standings after Week 2 Code: CGC Wins Loses Ties PF PA Dickinson 2 0 0 47 16 Carlisle 2 0 0 27 13 Chicago 1 0 1 42 21 Bowdoin 1 0 1 35 33 Notre Dame 1 1 0 30 26 Illinois 1 1 0 26 14 Brown 1 1 0 16 7 Michigan 1 1 0 10 20 Army 1 1 0 10 24 Nebraska 0 2 0 17 30 Navy 0 2 0 3 24 Northwestern 0 2 0 0 35 Last edited by sabotai : 06-11-2005 at 03:04 PM.

06-12-2005, 10:48 AM	#23
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	CSC Week 2 Results Knox 6, Drake 6 Williams 0, Wesleyan 10 Holy Cross 0, Indiana 14 Lehigh 0, Penn State 21 Tufts 3, Amherst 10 Trinity 3, Purdue 24 CSC Standings after Week 2 Code: CSC Wins Loses Ties PF PA Purdue 2 0 0 46 19 Wesleyan 2 0 0 31 3 Indiana 2 0 0 21 3 Amherst 2 0 0 19 3 Penn State 1 1 0 28 9 Holy Cross 1 1 0 9 21 Drake 0 0 2 13 13 Knox 0 1 1 9 27 Williams 0 1 1 7 17 Tufts 0 2 0 19 32 Lehigh 0 2 0 3 28 Trinity 0 2 0 3 33 Last edited by sabotai : 06-12-2005 at 10:49 AM.

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