American Idol Season 9

Mustang · 01-11-2010, 05:31 PM

Back this week. Enjoy it because with Simon leaving, might be the end of the road.

A replacement name I'd throw in the ring is Gene Simmons. He is in the industry, speaks his mind, has been a guest judge before and does reality TV already.

Solecismic · 01-11-2010, 07:05 PM

I'm pretty sure this is the last one. He's bringing X-Factor to the US next year, there's not much room for both.

The show has run its course and is starting to mock itself, hiring Ellen Degeneres as a judge of some sort. I like Ellen just fine, but there are too many canned quips and not enough time in the format as it is.

Pyser · 01-11-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I'm pretty sure this is the last one. He's bringing X-Factor to the US next year, there's not much room for both.

The show has run its course and is starting to mock itself, hiring Ellen Degeneres as a judge of some sort. I like Ellen just fine, but there are too many canned quips and not enough time in the format as it is.

i cant imagine theyd end the #1 show on tv just because a judge left. admittedly a huge part of the show, but come on

that said, possibly the best thing they could do would be end it for a bit, let people miss it, and bring it back in 2 years to a huge return. but i think instead theyll keep it on and milk it

MJ4H · 01-11-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey32

A good replacement for Simon will be Piers Morgan.

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wade moore · 01-12-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I'm pretty sure this is the last one. He's bringing X-Factor to the US next year, there's not much room for both.

The show has run its course and is starting to mock itself, hiring Ellen Degeneres as a judge of some sort. I like Ellen just fine, but there are too many canned quips and not enough time in the format as it is.

The Cowell news is unfortunate imo. I wasn't sure if I could handle the show with Ellen, but with Ellen and no Cowell is pretty brutal.

I'd throw Ben Folds out there. He was a very, very good judge on "The Sing-Off". He wasn't afraid to speak his mind and had a lot of legit feedback.

There's a good chance this is my last season watching though. I'll have to read up on X-Factor, but if it's just another version of "America's Got Talent" I just don't think I'm interested.

wade moore · 01-12-2010, 08:32 AM

Huh.

Looks like it is just a modified version of Idol.

Main difference appear to be:

A) Groups are allowed
B) People are split into Categories and then mentored by the judges.

Ok, I could get behind this.

DaddyTorgo · 01-12-2010, 08:34 AM

lol...so i guess this was like...foreshadowed by what happened in the UK hmm? Pretty amusing (although not when i think that 2x as much tv will now end up being taken up by this schlock).

Lathum · 01-12-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

i cant imagine theyd end the #1 show on tv just because a judge left. admittedly a huge part of the show, but come on

I dunno, Simon is a lot more than just a judge, he is akin to the main character on a very popular show. For me it will be like watching the X-Files without Duchovney, not nearly as interesting.

Drake · 01-12-2010, 10:23 AM

There was no X-Files without Duchovney, and I will punch anyone who says differently in the mouth. It was a great 7 season run...after which, it ended.

And there was only one X-Files movie.

Lathum · 01-12-2010, 10:24 AM

Well that's kind of my point

Drake · 01-12-2010, 10:46 AM

I was just making sure we agreed on that critical cultural point.

Drake · 01-12-2010, 10:50 AM

On topic: Since we're talking about judges, I'm disappointed they chose Ellen over bringing Jewel back. I really enjoyed her stint as a celeb judge in whichever season that was. I thought her comments were insightful.

Kodos · 01-12-2010, 11:00 AM

Simon is the only judge whose opinion really matters. Without him, the show would be useless.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-12-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Simon is the only judge whose opinion really matters. Without him, the show would be useless.

Agreed. Without Simon, I wouldn't watch it.

Drake · 01-12-2010, 11:24 AM

Maybe as a trade-off they'll set some sort of minimum boobies threshold for each episode. Then I'd watch.

wade moore · 01-12-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Drake

On topic: Since we're talking about judges, I'm disappointed they chose Ellen over bringing Jewel back. I really enjoyed her stint as a celeb judge in whichever season that was. I thought her comments were insightful.

Might have something to do with her becoming a full-time judge on Nashville Star (which as far as I know, is dead)

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Simon is the only judge whose opinion really matters. Without him, the show would be useless.

Yup. Especially with X-Factor being a singing show, I'm not sure that I will watch Idol after this season.

MJ4H · 01-12-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Drake

On topic: Since we're talking about judges, I'm disappointed they chose Ellen over bringing Jewel back. I really enjoyed her stint as a celeb judge in whichever season that was. I thought her comments were insightful.

Yep, it was definitely her comments. Both of them.

Pyser · 01-12-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I dunno, Simon is a lot more than just a judge, he is akin to the main character on a very popular show. For me it will be like watching the X-Files without Duchovney, not nearly as interesting.

my point though is theyll try. just because a judge is leaving doesnt mean you fold up shop. you let it die ungracefully, by failing miserably for a few more seasons first

Swaggs · 01-12-2010, 12:41 PM

You guys don't think that Randy Jackson can carry the show?

I think they should just call it quits, at least for a couple of years, after this season. But, I completely expect them to milk it for several more years. Other than the on-air talent, I wonder if there are many other major expenses? Maybe song acquisation, but that seems to be a good proposition for both sides, as popularity, downloads and album sales usually skyrocket when one of the contestants does a great performance.

MJ4H · 01-12-2010, 07:19 PM

where the eff is ellen

Drake · 01-12-2010, 07:59 PM

I'm baffled that pretty much everyone in America must have clued in that Andrew/Blunt Guy had Asperger Syndrome except the judges.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-13-2010, 07:03 AM

Last night's episode reminded me just how lousy this show will be without Simon as a judge. He makes everything click.

lordscarlet · 01-13-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

where the eff is ellen

They started off with a bunch of guest judges before they finalized Ellen.

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Originally Posted by Drake

I'm baffled that pretty much everyone in America must have clued in that Andrew/Blunt Guy had Asperger Syndrome except the judges.

Who?

Drake · 01-13-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Who?

The guy in the clip embedded in this article:

'American Idol': Andrew Fenlon annoys Kara DioGuardi in Boston - From Inside the Box - Zap2it

wade moore · 01-13-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Last night's episode reminded me just how lousy this show will be without Simon as a judge. He makes everything click.

Yup.

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Originally Posted by Drake

I'm baffled that pretty much everyone in America must have clued in that Andrew/Blunt Guy had Asperger Syndrome except the judges.

Um... no?

I've felt many awkward moments where they were clearly mocking someone that had "issues", this wasn't one of them. I didn't pick up on anything.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-13-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Um... no?

I've felt many awkward moments where they were clearly mocking someone that had "issues", this wasn't one of them. I didn't pick up on anything.

Agreed. Guy was just annoyed. If he had an obvious tell that he had other issues, I didn't notice.

MJ4H · 01-13-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Yup.

Um... no?

I've felt many awkward moments where they were clearly mocking someone that had "issues", this wasn't one of them. I didn't pick up on anything.

I didn't buy the guy from before he went into the audition room. I thought he was clearly a put-on. My opinion didn't change throughout the audition. Though, I did laugh at Kara ripping him a new one.

wade moore · 01-13-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

I didn't buy the guy from before he went into the audition room. I thought he was clearly a put-on. My opinion didn't change throughout the audition. Though, I did laugh at Kara ripping him a new one.

Yeah, that was closer to my take than Asperger's.

The very first audition (woman in the pink tank top) seemed she might have some issues, otherwise it just seemed like annoying people.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-13-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

The very first audition (woman in the pink tank top) seemed she might have some issues, otherwise it just seemed like annoying people.

I blame the developers. They should have improved the judge AI on their Wii game. If they would have done that, the audition would have never happened.

MJ4H · 01-13-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I blame the developers. They should have improved the judge AI on their Wii game. If they would have done that, the audition would have never happened.

haha yeah I was thinking this is a pretty terrible commercial for that game

wade moore · 01-13-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I blame the developers. They should have improved the judge AI on their Wii game. If they would have done that, the audition would have never happened.

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

haha yeah I was thinking this is a pretty terrible commercial for that game

+9999999

I don't see why you would want to show that audition for that exact reason.

Side note - did the producers or something change this year? There were quite a few subtle things different about the show this year from a production standpoint.

lordscarlet · 01-14-2010, 03:04 PM

What the other said -- I did not get any vibe that he had aspergers.

MJ4H · 01-14-2010, 06:48 PM

loooking like a fool with your pants on the ground

RedKingGold · 01-14-2010, 07:28 PM

Pants on the Ground = Probably the best moment in Idol auditions over the past few seasons.

law90026 · 01-14-2010, 08:10 PM

I honestly wonder how in the world they let him through to the audition room. He must have been hilarious during the pre-audition.

Oilers9911 · 01-14-2010, 10:47 PM

What stupidity.

Matthean · 01-14-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Last night's episode reminded me just how lousy this show will be without Simon as a judge. He makes everything click.

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What stupidity.

My roommate was watching the show so I by default was hearing some of it. I'm actually surprised they keep doing this part of the auditions. Nine seasons of listening to people sing horribly just comes across as a very old gimmick now.

lordscarlet · 01-15-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

My roommate was watching the show so I by default was hearing some of it. I'm actually surprised they keep doing this part of the auditions. Nine seasons of listening to people sing horribly just comes across as a very old gimmick now.

Agreed. Can we please stop with the stupid auditions. Show us the good and borderline people. We know that these people are prescreened -- it is embarrassing to both the individuals and the show (and perhaps America for eating it up) to continue to parade them around.

MJ4H · 01-15-2010, 09:27 AM

I agree with 99% of that. But we definitely need to see more of the good ones like the pants on the ground guy.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-15-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

I agree with 99% of that. But we definitely need to see more of the good ones like the pants on the ground guy.

Yeah, it was hard not to have a smile on your face. Nice that they put that at the end of that episode.

I think in recent years that they have put some contestants in the early episodes where you weren't sure whether they'd be good or not. It's kind of fun to guess based on their early interview whether they'd be good or not. The girl with the guitar outfit and the girl who lived in a trailer with her mom in Tennessee were a couple good surprises. In the earlier seasons, those two girls would have almost universally been horrible. At least they keep you guessing now.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-15-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Drake

I'm baffled that pretty much everyone in America must have clued in that Andrew/Blunt Guy had Asperger Syndrome except the judges.

I ran a clinic for Autistic Spectrum disorders and I don't think the guy had Asperger or any PDD syndrome disorder. I think he was just being an ass.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-15-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

haha yeah I was thinking this is a pretty terrible commercial for that game

Our thoughts as well.

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Pants on the Ground = Probably the best moment in Idol auditions over the past few seasons.

Agreed. I think Simon is right and that could be a hit. I want to show videos of it to some of my patients

Drake · 01-15-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I ran a clinic for Autistic Spectrum disorders and I don't think the guy had Asperger or any PDD syndrome disorder. I think he was just being an ass.

I'm completely willing to accept your judgment on this as gold and retire from the field.

Mustang · 01-18-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I ran a clinic for Autistic Spectrum disorders and I don't think the guy had Asperger or any PDD syndrome disorder. I think he was just being an ass.

Can you give that as a diagnosis?

"Sir, after 8 weeks of sessions, I've determined that your issues are a direct result of you being an asshole"

MJ4H · 01-27-2010, 01:41 PM

Katy Perry

Pumpy Tudors · 01-27-2010, 02:38 PM

I think last night was the first time I saw Katy Perry wearing a top. I enjoyed.

Solecismic · 01-27-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I think last night was the first time I saw Katy Perry wearing a top. I enjoyed.

Proof positive of the crazy/hot theory. She could start a senseless argument with a dead body. It would be entertaining, to say the least, to have her as a permanent judge.

wade moore · 01-27-2010, 06:42 PM

Agreed - she'd be what Kara was supposed to be.

Lathum · 01-27-2010, 11:19 PM

I am in love with the Barney singing domanatrix.

PraetorianX · 02-16-2010, 09:15 PM

No post in the last couple weeks? Thread definitely isn't as popular as the previous seasons.

I can see why though, there really aren't that many contestants that have jumped out at me thus far. Usually by now there is at least one that jumped out at me as 'great' or just that I really like, or at the very least one that I hope goes really far because she's really hot.

Nobody really stands out, to me, in any of those categories so far.

Except maybe Big Mike, I kind of like him.

01-12-2010, 08:34 AM	#7
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol...so i guess this was like...foreshadowed by what happened in the UK hmm? Pretty amusing (although not when i think that 2x as much tv will now end up being taken up by this schlock). __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

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Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	You guys don't think that Randy Jackson can carry the show? I think they should just call it quits, at least for a couple of years, after this season. But, I completely expect them to milk it for several more years. Other than the on-air talent, I wonder if there are many other major expenses? Maybe song acquisation, but that seems to be a good proposition for both sides, as popularity, downloads and album sales usually skyrocket when one of the contestants does a great performance. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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01-27-2010, 02:38 PM	#46
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I think last night was the first time I saw Katy Perry wearing a top. I enjoyed. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

01-11-2010, 07:05 PM	#2
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I'm pretty sure this is the last one. He's bringing X-Factor to the US next year, there's not much room for both. The show has run its course and is starting to mock itself, hiring Ellen Degeneres as a judge of some sort. I like Ellen just fine, but there are too many canned quips and not enough time in the format as it is.

01-12-2010, 10:23 AM	#9
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	There was no X-Files without Duchovney, and I will punch anyone who says differently in the mouth. It was a great 7 season run...after which, it ended. And there was only one X-Files movie.

01-12-2010, 10:24 AM	#10
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Well that's kind of my point

01-12-2010, 10:46 AM	#11
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	I was just making sure we agreed on that critical cultural point.

01-12-2010, 10:50 AM	#12
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	On topic: Since we're talking about judges, I'm disappointed they chose Ellen over bringing Jewel back. I really enjoyed her stint as a celeb judge in whichever season that was. I thought her comments were insightful.

01-12-2010, 11:24 AM	#15
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Maybe as a trade-off they'll set some sort of minimum boobies threshold for each episode. Then I'd watch.

01-12-2010, 07:19 PM	#20
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	where the eff is ellen

01-12-2010, 07:59 PM	#21
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	I'm baffled that pretty much everyone in America must have clued in that Andrew/Blunt Guy had Asperger Syndrome except the judges.

01-13-2010, 07:03 AM	#22
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Last night's episode reminded me just how lousy this show will be without Simon as a judge. He makes everything click.

01-14-2010, 06:48 PM	#33
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	loooking like a fool with your pants on the ground

01-14-2010, 07:28 PM	#34
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Pants on the Ground = Probably the best moment in Idol auditions over the past few seasons.

01-14-2010, 08:10 PM	#35
law90026 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	I honestly wonder how in the world they let him through to the audition room. He must have been hilarious during the pre-audition.

01-14-2010, 10:47 PM	#36
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	What stupidity.

01-15-2010, 09:27 AM	#39
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	I agree with 99% of that. But we definitely need to see more of the good ones like the pants on the ground guy.

01-27-2010, 01:41 PM	#45
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Katy Perry

01-27-2010, 11:19 PM	#49
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am in love with the Barney singing domanatrix.

02-16-2010, 09:15 PM	#50
PraetorianX High School JV Join Date: Mar 2003	No post in the last couple weeks? Thread definitely isn't as popular as the previous seasons. I can see why though, there really aren't that many contestants that have jumped out at me thus far. Usually by now there is at least one that jumped out at me as 'great' or just that I really like, or at the very least one that I hope goes really far because she's really hot. Nobody really stands out, to me, in any of those categories so far. Except maybe Big Mike, I kind of like him.

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